3.5 PowerBoost Vs 2.7 EcoBoost

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1agswitchin4lanes said:

I've owned multiple F150s with each engine.

Hands down I like the 2.7L ecoboost.

I hear chattering that the 2.7L may be discontinued after 2027 and that we will get a de-tuned version of the 3.0L V6 in the explorer ST, Aviator, Braptor, to simplify the production process for Ford. The 3.0L has identical architecture to the 2.7. They're the same family.

Saw FordTechMakuloco post today showing no more 2.7 in the F150 for 2027
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JB said:

1agswitchin4lanes said:

I've owned multiple F150s with each engine.

Hands down I like the 2.7L ecoboost.

I hear chattering that the 2.7L may be discontinued after 2027 and that we will get a de-tuned version of the 3.0L V6 in the explorer ST, Aviator, Braptor, to simplify the production process for Ford. The 3.0L has identical architecture to the 2.7. They're the same family.

Saw FordTechMakuloco post today showing no more 2.7 in the F150 for 2027


That's correct. Ford ran short on 2.7 L engines for this year, and someone I guess made the decision that it was easier to just produce the same engine that they use in the Explorer ST and bronco raptor. The aviator gets this as well. If I remember correctly, it's the same horsepower as the 3.5 eco-boost, but the torque is slightly less.

The 2.7 and 3.0 share the same architecture. The 2.7 is a compacted graphite block versus the aluminum block in the 3.0.
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More rumors/info on the 2.7's demise. I'd be wary of buying one of the 'end of the line' engines.
https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/cars/news-blog/dealer-docs-show-ford-f-150-dropping-2-7-liter-ecoboost-adding-v8s-45135985
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However, the 2.7-liter also uses dual injection. This has been proven to help keep valves cleaner (same as with traditional port-injected vehicles), alleviating carbon buildup issues that are widely associated with automobiles featuring direct injection. Meanwhile, the 3.0-liter EcoBoost has been designed exclusively for direct injection.

In terms of power, the smaller V6 offered a maximum of 325 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque. But its replacement has been issued to vehicles boasting just over 400 hp and 440 lb-ft of torque. While some of us would gladly take port injection over the increased power, others will just be happy to see the larger numbers on the spec sheet.

Based on the dealer form, the 3.0-liter EcoBoost will be made available on the base XL, STX, XLT, and Lariat trim as the standard engine. This mimics what we've seen from Ram with the Hurricane I6. Ford may even be trying to compete with Ram by launching its own 3.0-liter twin-turbo with improved specs.

The Blue Oval must know that Ram customers have expressed concerns about Hurricane. But most of those centered around the brand initially attempting to use it as a complete replacement for the V8 and subsequent concerns that forced induction and direct injection might be suboptimal in terms of longevity. Having debuted in 2022, the 3.0-liter Hurricane hasn't really been around long enough for us to say anything truly definitive about its dependability. Most of the gripes pertaining to the Ram 1500 are presently focused on electrical components.

Even though Ford never officially dumped the V8 like Ram did, the automaker still plans on broadening availability of the 5.0-liter Coyote to several models that had abandoned it including on the King Ranch and Platinum trims.




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The 3.5 PowerBoost is the beast if you need the extra torque and towing ability, but the 2.7 EcoBoost is probably one of Ford's underrated engines. Less complexity, plenty of power, and cheaper to run. Depends if you want maximum capability or a solid daily driver."
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Powerboost towing ability is neutered considerably due to its lack in payload. That truck has less payload than a Tahoe. And I'm not sure you can get an upgraded towing package on it for better brakes and transmission cooler.

IMO, regular 3.5EB with max tow package is the way to roll for real towing.

Smaller boat or camper (like 24', 5k lbs camper) sure.
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ChoppinDs40 said:

Powerboost towing ability is neutered considerably due to its lack in payload. That truck has less payload than a Tahoe. And I'm not sure you can get an upgraded towing package on it for better brakes and transmission cooler.

IMO, regular 3.5EB with max tow package is the way to roll for real towing.

Smaller boat or camper (like 24', 5k lbs camper) sure.


2026 Ford F-150 PowerBoost (3.5L Hybrid V6)
11,600 lbs, Payload ~1740

2026 Chevy Tahoe (best-equipped)
8,400 lbs, Paypload ~1830

Powerboost has far better towing (3k) and just a 100 pounds weight difference.

Powerboost vs Regular truck (of same equipment/trim level)

1. 7.2 kW Generator built in
2. Better low-end torque (420 hp vs 382hp, and 570 foot pounds to 500)
3. Better fuel economy (in particular around town)
4. Quiet idling (run on battery)

Downsides - more complex, slighly lower max towing (13,500 vs 11,600) and slighly lower payload with a higher purchase price.
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Choose the PowerBoost if you:
  • Camp or RV.
  • Want the onboard generator.
  • Spend lots of time in city traffic.
  • Like quiet operation.
  • Expect to use the truck as a mobile power source.
Choose the standard 3.5 EcoBoost if you:
  • Tow very heavy trailers frequently.
  • Want maximum payload.
  • Prefer the simpler powertrain.
  • Don't care about the generator.
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I don't understand what you're saying about being weary of buying an end of the line engine.
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satexas said:

ChoppinDs40 said:

Powerboost towing ability is neutered considerably due to its lack in payload. That truck has less payload than a Tahoe. And I'm not sure you can get an upgraded towing package on it for better brakes and transmission cooler.

IMO, regular 3.5EB with max tow package is the way to roll for real towing.

Smaller boat or camper (like 24', 5k lbs camper) sure.


2026 Ford F-150 PowerBoost (3.5L Hybrid V6)
11,600 lbs, Payload ~1740

2026 Chevy Tahoe (best-equipped)
8,400 lbs, Paypload ~1830

Powerboost has far better towing (3k) and just a 100 pounds weight difference.

Powerboost vs Regular truck (of same equipment/trim level)

1. 7.2 kW Generator built in
2. Better low-end torque (420 hp vs 382hp, and 570 foot pounds to 500)
3. Better fuel economy (in particular around town)
4. Quiet idling (run on battery)

Downsides - more complex, slighly lower max towing (13,500 vs 11,600) and slighly lower payload with a higher purchase price.


lol. Find me a powerboost with 1740lbs of payload.

Go check your sticker.

Last one I looked at was 1400.
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ChoppinDs40 said:

Powerboost towing ability is neutered considerably due to its lack in payload. That truck has less payload than a Tahoe. And I'm not sure you can get an upgraded towing package on it for better brakes and transmission cooler.

IMO, regular 3.5EB with max tow package is the way to roll for real towing.

Smaller boat or camper (like 24', 5k lbs camper) sure.
FYI the account you replied to is either a bot or sourcing its answers from AI and pasting them in replies on threads. Check out the posting history. It's literally all AI.
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Not a bot I don't think but those are definitely Ai responses
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I'm a bot?

LOL. We all use AI in some form or fashion now to find things. Faster, easier.

Know what AI does better than you? Looking at posting history and recognizing a human.

Really bro? I'm a bot? Lemme guess, I'm a longhorn bot?
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I like big bots and I cannot lie...
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satexas said:

I'm a bot?

LOL. We all use AI in some form or fashion now to find things. Faster, easier.

Know what AI does better than you? Looking at posting history and recognizing a human.

Really bro? I'm a bot? Lemme guess, I'm a longhorn bot?
calm your tits. The other poster that Choppin was responding to, not you. Look at the post I quoted, Nancy.
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ChoppinDs40 said:

satexas said:

ChoppinDs40 said:

Powerboost towing ability is neutered considerably due to its lack in payload. That truck has less payload than a Tahoe. And I'm not sure you can get an upgraded towing package on it for better brakes and transmission cooler.

IMO, regular 3.5EB with max tow package is the way to roll for real towing.

Smaller boat or camper (like 24', 5k lbs camper) sure.


2026 Ford F-150 PowerBoost (3.5L Hybrid V6)
11,600 lbs, Payload ~1740

2026 Chevy Tahoe (best-equipped)
8,400 lbs, Paypload ~1830

Powerboost has far better towing (3k) and just a 100 pounds weight difference.

Powerboost vs Regular truck (of same equipment/trim level)

1. 7.2 kW Generator built in
2. Better low-end torque (420 hp vs 382hp, and 570 foot pounds to 500)
3. Better fuel economy (in particular around town)
4. Quiet idling (run on battery)

Downsides - more complex, slighly lower max towing (13,500 vs 11,600) and slighly lower payload with a higher purchase price.
Here is my PowerBoost sticker.

lol. Find me a powerboost with 1740lbs of payload.

Go check your sticker.

Last one I looked at was 1400.

Here is my sticker. My travel trailer has a ~600# tongue weight so this payload isn't a constraint and the 7.2kw inverter is invaluable in our use case.
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bam02 said:

I don't understand what you're saying about being weary of buying an end of the line engine.

I own vehicles a long time, and that dual injector tech they use in this is going to be relatively unsupported by Ford in 5-7 years I suspect, so folks will be stuck with third party parts over time. Really, I just don't like buying a product that is being discontinued shortly, unless it's real compelling.
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Gotcha. Makes sense. I just bought one so hopefully it's not an issue.
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have you actually weighed the trailer tongue or are you going off the deflated numbers the manufacturers post online?

not trying to be the "rating police" a good buddy of mine just got a powerboost and he loves it.

We had a 3.5 max tow with a much larger trailer. No way we'd have been able to tow it with a standard PB. Either way, it led me to getting a 250 so water under the bridge.

My 250 has the 2kw pro-power, more than I'll ever need. We don't ever boondock. That is a cool feature, for sure.
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I have a cheap tongue scale I use when loading the trailer to try to stay between 10%-15% and try to hit a CAT scale when loaded for a trip I haven't done before.

ETA: I've got 8kwh of lithium batteries that we travel with so we use well north of 2kw when charging.
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nice what kind of rig you running?
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ChoppinDs40 said:

satexas said:

ChoppinDs40 said:

Powerboost towing ability is neutered considerably due to its lack in payload. That truck has less payload than a Tahoe. And I'm not sure you can get an upgraded towing package on it for better brakes and transmission cooler.

IMO, regular 3.5EB with max tow package is the way to roll for real towing.

Smaller boat or camper (like 24', 5k lbs camper) sure.


2026 Ford F-150 PowerBoost (3.5L Hybrid V6)
11,600 lbs, Payload ~1740

2026 Chevy Tahoe (best-equipped)
8,400 lbs, Paypload ~1830

Powerboost has far better towing (3k) and just a 100 pounds weight difference.

Powerboost vs Regular truck (of same equipment/trim level)

1. 7.2 kW Generator built in
2. Better low-end torque (420 hp vs 382hp, and 570 foot pounds to 500)
3. Better fuel economy (in particular around town)
4. Quiet idling (run on battery)

Downsides - more complex, slighly lower max towing (13,500 vs 11,600) and slighly lower payload with a higher purchase price.


lol. Find me a powerboost with 1740lbs of payload.

Go check your sticker.

Last one I looked at was 1400.


I know this is a little late, but if it is still relevant my powerboost XLT has a payload of 1600 per the sticker. It's not exactly barebones, but adding all the garbage with the higher models when I first and foremost want a good tow vehicle makes no sense when accounting for the significant hit to payload. Most XLTs I found were in the 1500+ range, don't think I saw any below 1500 (maybe 1450 with some useless add-ons).

But yes, considering mine has minimal to no add ons that should impact weight significantly I don't know how you can have a payload over 1700.

That said, I love the powerboost. It powers my trailer when I need to while boondocking (or when the propane went out in the middle of the night and I needed electricity to power the refrigerator), tows like the trailer isn't even there, and is pretty damn comfortable for long drives; although that part doesnt make a difference in this comparison.

And I leave it on regularly in the summer heat for my dog while I have to go inside somewhere, and it will run indefinitely; until out of gas that is.

Oh, and now that it's broken in I regularly get over 25 mpg around town, close to 30 the other day when cruising at city speeds since about half the miles were in electric mode.

Also, even though all the Ford dealerships in the Boise area (and surrounding areas for hundreds of miles) laughed at me when I tried to negotiate even though powerboosts weren't selling in this area, ford had a pretty good discount on these specific trucks. This basically came out to the powerboost system (hybrid) with 7.2 being in essence free. That was back this past October, but if you time it right you should be able to get it for a reasonably comparable purchase price to the non-powerboost. I can't say for sure, of course, but it's a possibility that is still the case.

As an aside, the arrogance and "you need us more than we need you, these trucks sell at our prices so take it or leave it" attitude of all the dealerships in the region was a little off-putting though. They treat their customers like annoyances now, and I have never been talked down to with such condescension when buying a vehicle. Since there were so many in the area, they all had pretty comparable truck options to go with. But since they price fix in the region all the prices amongst the dealerships were the same aside from a few minor options. I literally chose my truck by talking to multiple salespeople within multiple dealership until I found one that was the least *******-ish among them. Since none of them know anything about the products they sell, it really didnt matter who I went with, so might as well choose the one that isn't as big of a jerk.
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The PowerBoost option was $1900 on our truck and came with a $1900 ford rebate so it wasn't an expensive upgrade.
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Get the 3.5. The mpg gain between the 2.7 and the 3.5 is marginal and the 3.5 has way more power.
I had a 14' Ecoboost with the 3.5. I replaced the air intake and CAC (Charge air cooler) with aftermarket and got a Gearhead tune with 1 degree cooler spark plugs and that truck hauled ass. The aftermarket parts were 1100$ total and gained 45hp on a dyno compared to stock. No other gas truck will get those gains for anywhere close to 1000$. The Hemi, 5.0, or 5.3 V8's are truly slugs compared to the Ecoboost in quickness and towing. The only thing the Ecoboost sucks at is exhaust sound. But if you are an adult, then exhaust sound shouldn't be a factor.
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Yet another advantage of buying low mileage used is you can skip the horrific dealer experience that most dealerships offer.
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Buck Turgidson said:

Yet another advantage of buying low mileage used is you can skip the horrific dealer experience that most dealerships offer.


Unfortunately it's not always an option. I did try that. There were literally no used powerboosts with 7.2 anywhere near me. There were a few non-7.2s here and there, but then I might as well just get a 2.7L or basic 3.5. Plus, as has been pointed out earlier, finding the appropriate payload adds another layer to finding something used that fits.

Also, I was able to finance at 0.9% (3yrs), which isn't an option for used vehicles. The savings there actually made it make more sense financially as well. I don't happen to have $60k lying around unfortunately...
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This thread had me check my sticker on my PB: 1592 pounds.

23 Lariat 501a 4x4. 7.2kw gen option.

Edit: Not sure why the sad face was checked instead of my normal mobile icon.
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Get a Lightning with standard battery. Insane acceleration, and dirt cheap right now. Total cheat code.
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JSKolache said:

Get a Lightning with standard battery. Insane acceleration, and dirt cheap right now. Total cheat code.


No gas engine, electric, ugly 'look I'm electric' truck front end, limited range.... yucko.
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