Transmission 2019 Expedition

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BurnetAggie99
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On average it's about $300 bucks fluid plus labor.
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Jetpilot86 said:

gigemJTH12 said:

thanks everyone...I have never changed the transmission fluid. Doing that today. will report back. Would it fix it immediately if that was going to work?


It did with the Explorer. Within 5-10 minutes or less of driving anyway. The power flush is as important as new fluid IMHO.


Do not flush any transmission.

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BurnetAggie99 said:

On the 10 speed there is no drain plug like there used to be. So it's a pain in the butt. Have to drop the transmission pan.

Ford taking away the drain plug and also no more transmission stick to check/fill stem is stupid.



I have been draining from the fill port with a pneumatic vacuum extraction tool and refill with a power filler. Dropping the pan is no fun. I did it once at 60K and then have just been draining and replacing.

Usually get 4-5 quarts out and add in the same amount with the lubegard.


Make sure you are using Mercon ULV. Zero issues at 124K miles.


Sea Speed
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Have a link to those two tools you're using?
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Sea Speed said:

Have a link to those two tools you're using?


https://a.co/d/13iWmQB

This is what I use to extract. Just remove the brake bleeder attachment and run the hose in the filler. The reservoir
capacity is small but I bought it really for brake bleeding.

https://a.co/d/bGuFSHW
Sea Speed
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Thank you. So you just have to dump it a few times to get it totally pumped out? How long does that process generally take you? If I can buy the tools for the cost of the service to diy without dropping the pan I may just have to do that haha
AgEng06
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Sea Speed said:

Well my 10 speed is shifting hard af and when we were under warranty they had to do something to it because of the hard shifting but that didn't really take care of it. 86k miles and I've never changed the fluid. Wonder if the damage is already done. I'm really unhappy with this vehicle overall tbh.

I'm a little late to this, but yes, the 10-speed in these a POS. Our 2020 was rebuilt around 35K and has been reprogrammed and serviced multiple times since then, and still shifts like sh*t.
Sea Speed
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Yea i am really not a fan at all.
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Sea Speed said:

Thank you. So you just have to dump it a few times to get it totally pumped out? How long does that process generally take you? If I can buy the tools for the cost of the service to diy without dropping the pan I may just have to do that haha
Correct.

I actually have a Rubbermaid food service graduated tub I dump it out in to measure what I drained out, and then I pour it into a jug for recycling.

This usually takes me less than an hour, and I do it when I change the engine oil and have the skid plates off already.

I'm probably overboard but it also has never faltered on us. I have some 10 speed Fords with 230K right now that shift like new with regular fluid changes.
fixer
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1agswitchin4lanes said:

Sea Speed said:

Have a link to those two tools you're using?


https://a.co/d/13iWmQB

This is what I use to extract. Just remove the brake bleeder attachment and run the hose in the filler. The reservoir
capacity is small but I bought it really for brake bleeding.

https://a.co/d/bGuFSHW
Thanks for this...I'll need this for my T1 suburban because the exhaust crossover goes right over the pan.
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fixer said:

1agswitchin4lanes said:

Sea Speed said:

Have a link to those two tools you're using?


https://a.co/d/13iWmQB

This is what I use to extract. Just remove the brake bleeder attachment and run the hose in the filler. The reservoir
capacity is small but I bought it really for brake bleeding.

https://a.co/d/bGuFSHW
Thanks for this...I'll need this for my T1 suburban because the exhaust crossover goes right over the pan.


Ecoboost too
BenTheGoodAg
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1agswitchin4lanes said:

fixer said:

1agswitchin4lanes said:

Sea Speed said:

Have a link to those two tools you're using?


https://a.co/d/13iWmQB

This is what I use to extract. Just remove the brake bleeder attachment and run the hose in the filler. The reservoir
capacity is small but I bought it really for brake bleeding.

https://a.co/d/bGuFSHW
Thanks for this...I'll need this for my T1 suburban because the exhaust crossover goes right over the pan.


Ecoboost too


vmiaptetr
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I know I asked about this earlier, but I just cleaned the throttle body on my Expedition, took it for a test run, and noticed a marked improvement in shifting and acceleration.
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vmiaptetr said:

I know I asked about this earlier, but I just cleaned the throttle body on my Expedition, took it for a test run, and noticed a marked improvement in shifting and acceleration.


Yup! Also catch can also helps with deposits too.
vmiaptetr
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Well, just got told my transmission needs to be rebuilt.

EDIT: Grammatical error.
AgEng06
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vmiaptetr said:

Well, just got told my transmissions needs to be rebuilt.
Damn, both of them?!


Sorry.... that sucks man.
vmiaptetr
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Haha. Just the one. Definitely sucks.
Sea Speed
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I'm going overseas Wednesday and haven't had a chance to mess with the fluid change. Really aggravating tbh because I don't want the transmission to fail and I don't trust it at all.
gigemJTH12
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I changed my fluid and I dont think it got any better.

should I go to Ford or a local shop to get it looked at?
vmiaptetr
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If it's out of warranty, a local shop.
aggieforester05
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vmiaptetr said:

If it's out of warranty, a local shop.
Make sure you get an updated transmission. It's usually CDF drum failure and they updated it to fix the problem in 2022. If you're getting quoted crazy prices for OEM transmissions, I'd at least talk to midnight performance about their built 10R80s. It would be pretty bulletproof after that.
vmiaptetr
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Thanks. My ears are still ringing from the estimate he gave me.
BurnetAggie99
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vmiaptetr said:

Thanks. My ears are still ringing from the estimate he gave me.


If you wanted to upgrade from OEM

https://monstertransmission.com/products/streetmonster-ford-10r80e-transmission-torque-converter?variant=50302108959029
Silvy
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Absolutely no to a Monster transmission, they have been known as garbage for at least 15 years now
BurnetAggie99
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Silvy said:

Absolutely no to a Monster transmission, they have been known as garbage for at least 15 years now


I just did a quick search on upgraded OEM's for general reference & that popped up first. I'd ask 1Ags his recommendation for what upgraded OEM would be a good option.
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BurnetAggie99 said:

Silvy said:

Absolutely no to a Monster transmission, they have been known as garbage for at least 15 years now


I just did a quick search on upgraded OEM's for general reference & that popped up first. I'd ask 1Ags his recommendation for what upgraded OEM would be a good option.



CircleD but they told me they're just buying the transmission from the parts counter at Ford.
vmiaptetr
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Ended up just getting an OEM transmission ordered and overnighted.
Probably going to sell it after I get it back and buy my wife the lowest mileage '21 Land Cruiser I can find. Been planning on doing that after this car anyway, but this whole ordeal pretty much makes it more of a priority.
Heights Ag 06
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I'm in this same boat and already looking at 200 series Land Cruiser or LX570. Our 2021 Expy is real piece of junk. Had the transmission replaced early in its life and now it has been at AutoNation Katy for 3 weeks waiting on second transmission replace / overhaul. It's bad enough to have an unreliable vehicle but the problem is infinitely compounded by Ford's service at dealerships (never a loaner, weeks for basic tasks, etc.). Not worth it.
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1agswitchin4lanes said:

BurnetAggie99 said:

On the 10 speed there is no drain plug like there used to be. So it's a pain in the butt. Have to drop the transmission pan.

Ford taking away the drain plug and also no more transmission stick to check/fill stem is stupid.



I have been draining from the fill port with a pneumatic vacuum extraction tool and refill with a power filler. Dropping the pan is no fun. I did it once at 60K and then have just been draining and replacing.

Usually get 4-5 quarts out and add in the same amount with the lubegard.


Make sure you are using Mercon ULV. Zero issues at 124K miles.
Owner's manual on '23 expedition & navigator calls for LV rather than ULV for some reason. Did it come from the factory with LV?


Per Motocraft, it looks like the owner's manual is a typo.
https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/quickref/atf2US.pdf
BurnetAggie99
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Mercon ULV is rated for 10 speed expedition
Donnys Element
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Asking for a friend. Say you had a 2021 Expedition, with a 7 year, 125,000 mile warranty. Would you worry about any transmission flushes or service? I hear the reputation is so bad on these, I'd be tempted to sell it right before the warranty ran out.

It's been brought into the dealer once, for some sort of service bulletin for transmission clunking out of park and hiccup between 4-5th gear. However it still does this stuff, but so far it's been drivable.
FIDO95
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Just found out my '19 F150 that I paid off last Fall has a failing transmission and engine (3.5 eco boost). The mechanic said there is currently a class action lawsuit under way but it likely won't get resolved before my drivetrain fails. I came home am sure enough:

https://lemoncarlawyer.com/ford-transmission-troubles-persist-2023-litigation-update/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20Ford%20faced%20new,others%20using%20the%2010R80%20transmission.
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Donnys Element said:

Asking for a friend. Say you had a 2021 Expedition, with a 7 year, 125,000 mile warranty. Would you worry about any transmission flushes or service? I hear the reputation is so bad on these, I'd be tempted to sell it right before the warranty ran out.

It's been brought into the dealer once, for some sort of service bulletin for transmission clunking out of park and hiccup between 4-5th gear. However it still does this stuff, but so far it's been drivable.



I'd still change the fluid.
Sea Speed
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Donnys Element said:

Asking for a friend. Say you had a 2021 Expedition, with a 7 year, 125,000 mile warranty. Would you worry about any transmission flushes or service? I hear the reputation is so bad on these, I'd be tempted to sell it right before the warranty ran out.

It's been brought into the dealer once, for some sort of service bulletin for transmission clunking out of park and hiccup between 4-5th gear. However it still does this stuff, but so far it's been drivable.



I need to look in to that service bulletin because that is exactly what mine is doing.
Nealthedestroyer
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Late late '21 expedition here. Transmission was replaced at 50k miles along with both AC condensers. Luckily the trans was under warranty. 3 weeks in the shop. Finally gave me a loaner after I was mistakenly told it was fixed and ready for pick up.

Probly my last ford.
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