Bad 2 Day Run on the Porsches

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Ugh.

1. Cayenne had engine/oil temp issues on return to Austin from Houston. Really bad issues. Feathered it back to Austin. Quickly diagnosed as failed shutters in front of the radiator. Of course failed in the shut condition.

2. With that vehicle in the shop, driving a 996TT around locally to run errands. Today in idle condition, crunch from the engine compartment and an apparent alternator issue. No power steering and as it turns out no engine cooling. Shut down on local street. Turns out to be a failed metal pulley and a subsequent failed belt.

Down to zero vehicles this afternoon...
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$15,000

We're playing guess the damage, right?
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$1500 on the Cayenne.

$0 on the 911. Pulleys and belts replaced this summer. Work under warranty.
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I want Porsche people problems
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.
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vmiaptetr said:

$15,000

We're playing guess the damage, right?


I didn't think of couching it that way, but I guess that has become the expectation on this board. I was just venting on a board I have enjoyed watching.
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Just sucks getting a tow on a car lowered on H&R coilovers.
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If you can afford a Porsche you can afford to have it in a euro specialty shop sbout 1/3 of the time you own it.

Hopefully you got a nice rental. German cars are beautiful to drive but tedious to own.
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No rental. Picking up 911 today. Cayenne next week.
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austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.
People really hate the 996. Values seem to have never recovered. Hopefully the nice ones will become "classics" when everything else is ragged out. Thankfully the turbo doesn't have the IMS issues

Pics of both? Did you go to the dealer for the shutters? Glad my 958 doesn't have them.
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Porsches have a great reputation for reliability for a German car. For a 996 we're talking about a 20 year+ old car for gosh sakes.
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txyaloo said:

austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.
People really hate the 996. Values seem to have never recovered. Hopefully the nice ones will become "classics" when everything else is ragged out. Thankfully the turbo doesn't have the IMS issues

Pics of both? Did you go to the dealer for the shutters? Glad my 958 doesn't have them.


I never go to the dealer. I have an Indy shop (GT International) that gives me personalized service, knows me, and jumped on the 911 knowing I was down both vehicles.

I'm bet your Cayenne has them.
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txyaloo said:

austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.
People really hate the 996. Values seem to have never recovered. Hopefully the nice ones will become "classics" when everything else is ragged out. Thankfully the turbo doesn't have the IMS issues

Pics of both? Did you go to the dealer for the shutters? Glad my 958 doesn't have them.


996 Turbo. Completely different engine. Dry sump race derived engine. A year ago it was a $90k car. 996 Carrera has the M96 engine subject to the IMS bearing failure issues. Wet sump. Can't race that engine because the oil in the pan will leave the engine starved on cornering.

You can google the Mezger engine.
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austinag1997 said:

txyaloo said:

austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.
People really hate the 996. Values seem to have never recovered. Hopefully the nice ones will become "classics" when everything else is ragged out. Thankfully the turbo doesn't have the IMS issues

Pics of both? Did you go to the dealer for the shutters? Glad my 958 doesn't have them.


996 Turbo. Completely different engine. Dry sump race derived engine. A year ago it was a $90k car. 996 Carrera has the M96 engine subject to the IMS bearing failure issues. Wet sump. Can't race that engine because the oil in the pan will leave the engine starved on cornering.

You can google the Mezger engine.
I'm familiar . I said it does not have IMS issues
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austinag1997 said:

txyaloo said:

austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.
People really hate the 996. Values seem to have never recovered. Hopefully the nice ones will become "classics" when everything else is ragged out. Thankfully the turbo doesn't have the IMS issues

Pics of both? Did you go to the dealer for the shutters? Glad my 958 doesn't have them.


I never go to the dealer. I have an Indy shop (GT International) that gives me personalized service, knows me, and jumped on the 911 knowing I was down both vehicles.

I'm bet your Cayenne has them.

Very clean! Were PCCBs an option on those?

Grill shutters were added on the facelift 958. My pre-facelift CTTS thankfully doesn't have them
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I doubt PCCBs were offered back then. For daily driving, they help. On the track, they overheat. Depends on the application.

The radiator shutters suck. I asked my mechanic if they could be forced open all the time. Answer was essentially no. Poor design.
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txyaloo said:

austinag1997 said:

txyaloo said:

austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.
People really hate the 996. Values seem to have never recovered. Hopefully the nice ones will become "classics" when everything else is ragged out. Thankfully the turbo doesn't have the IMS issues

Pics of both? Did you go to the dealer for the shutters? Glad my 958 doesn't have them.


996 Turbo. Completely different engine. Dry sump race derived engine. A year ago it was a $90k car. 996 Carrera has the M96 engine subject to the IMS bearing failure issues. Wet sump. Can't race that engine because the oil in the pan will leave the engine starved on cornering.

You can google the Mezger engine.
I'm familiar . I said it does not have IMS issues


I have a 986 Boxster parked in NOLA for when I am there. Same M96 engine. Really fun car to drive!
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austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.


Touche

Porsche is my dream car that I fully expect to own one day. I'm waiting for my youngest to graduate from HS. Plans really start to develop at that point
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

austinag1997 said:

Aggie Dad 26 said:

I want Porsche people problems


Life may be easier driving a 1992 Toyota Corolla. And for the record I am not farting you off. I am likely more like you than you think. The 996 TT was an investment car that the bottom dropped out of.

I'm obviously good at laughing at my own crap situation.


Touche

Porsche is my dream car that I fully expect to own one day. I'm waiting for my youngest to graduate from HS. Plans really start to develop at that point


Willing to share my knowledge. I have never bought a new Porsche. There are deals out there. Just have to know what to look for. My first one was the 986 Boxster in the photos above. I got bloodied on that one. I have $21K in it and bought for $13,700. Use knowledge of those of us before you buy!

And if I don't know, I can ping a team at GT International that help me out all the time. Willing to help.
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I've always liked the Cayman and have been waiting for the PDK ones to depreciate more. I'm sure they'll be in the $10k range eventually.
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txyaloo said:

I've always liked the Cayman and have been waiting for the PDK ones to depreciate more. I'm sure they'll be in the $10k range eventually.


Maybe a 1st Gen Cayenne.... those had some unique issues though.
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Been lurking on this thread…I have a 2015 Boxster. It's a great car, but just in the last couple of weeks, the top has been giving me trouble.

It won't go all the way down, and stops with about 1/4 of the way left to go. I have to toggle the switches (put the top partially back up and then lower it again) to get it to lower completely.

Going up, it gets stuck again, but not at the same point. It's maybe 1/3 of the way up. Putting it back down and then putting it up again sometimes fixes the problem, as does restarting the car. Sometimes I get a fault error on my dash but not every time.

Porsche forums tell me it's faulty sensors that are $1600-$2000 to replace because you have to take the trunk apart to get to them. I want to hold off for now because I just put new tires on the car and wasn't expecting this expense.

Anyone else dealt with this? If so, how long were you able to procrastinate on the repair? Did your top ever get completely stuck?
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austinag1997 said:

Just sucks getting a tow on a car lowered on H&R coilovers.

I had owned this car for just a couple weeks, not even sure I had put in a second tank of gas in it when she got a flat tire. Car was CPO, so I called up Porsche. Onto the trailer she went for a new tire, with the tow (not the tire - ugh) covered under warranty. Got a call from the dealership that they scratched it while washing it, and their car washing was done by an outside company. So off she went again to a body shop for repairs (on the car washing company's dime). Definitely had some early buyer's remorse.

She's fine now, thankfully. I tried to introduce her to this wealthy elderly gentleman we ran into, but it wasn't a love connection.


She seems to prefer men more her age.


Yeah, they can be a pain in the ass, but from the first one I ever drove (a 993 Turbo), I've loved Porsches.
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What are those blues? Sapphire and ? On the search for a 718 and would consider Sapphire
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AgCPA95 said:

What are those blues? Sapphire and ? On the search for a 718 and would consider Sapphire

Mine is a sapphire blue. My friend's GT3 is shark blue.
More of a "full sun" pic:
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Porsches do look great in blue.

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Is that Gentian blue? Or also sapphire?
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He Who Shall Be Unnamed said:

Is that Gentian blue? Or also sapphire?
3M Gloss Cosmic Blue...wrap. . I wrapped it myself

Couldn't deal with soft black Porsche paint. Love the blue.
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Interesting. I think I like it. I've always loved blue Porsches as well.
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TXTransplant said:

Been lurking on this thread…I have a 2015 Boxster. It's a great car, but just in the last couple of weeks, the top has been giving me trouble.

It won't go all the way down, and stops with about 1/4 of the way left to go. I have to toggle the switches (put the top partially back up and then lower it again) to get it to lower completely.

Going up, it gets stuck again, but not at the same point. It's maybe 1/3 of the way up. Putting it back down and then putting it up again sometimes fixes the problem, as does restarting the car. Sometimes I get a fault error on my dash but not every time.

Porsche forums tell me it's faulty sensors that are $1600-$2000 to replace because you have to take the trunk apart to get to them. I want to hold off for now because I just put new tires on the car and wasn't expecting this expense.

Anyone else felt with this? If so, how long were you able to procrastinate on the repair? Did your top ever get completely stuck?
I left a shop light between the clamshell and body when working on my transmission. Loud POP! rendered the system inoperable and, not being particularly conceerned about it... removed the hardware and went the manual route. I can open/close the top in less than half the time, and I get to karate chop the vinyl window.

Go manual and forget about it.
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austinag1997 said:

txyaloo said:

I've always liked the Cayman and have been waiting for the PDK ones to depreciate more. I'm sure they'll be in the $10k range eventually.


Maybe a 1st Gen Cayenne.... those had some unique issues though.


Cayman... I read as Cayenne. I haven't seen them that low. $20k.. maybe.
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TXTransplant said:

Been lurking on this thread…I have a 2015 Boxster. It's a great car, but just in the last couple of weeks, the top has been giving me trouble.

It won't go all the way down, and stops with about 1/4 of the way left to go. I have to toggle the switches (put the top partially back up and then lower it again) to get it to lower completely.

Going up, it gets stuck again, but not at the same point. It's maybe 1/3 of the way up. Putting it back down and then putting it up again sometimes fixes the problem, as does restarting the car. Sometimes I get a fault error on my dash but not every time.

Porsche forums tell me it's faulty sensors that are $1600-$2000 to replace because you have to take the trunk apart to get to them. I want to hold off for now because I just put new tires on the car and wasn't expecting this expense.

Anyone else dealt with this? If so, how long were you able to procrastinate on the repair? Did your top ever get completely stuck?


The tops are pretty complex between several sensors and rams and motors. It would be hard to diagnose from afar.
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Kool said:

AgCPA95 said:

What are those blues? Sapphire and ? On the search for a 718 and would consider Sapphire

Mine is a sapphire blue. My friend's GT3 is shark blue.
More of a "full sun" pic:



Pretty car!
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If you can find someone with a PIWIS or Launch type scanner that can pull Porsche module codes, I'm happy to look in PPN service data to see if there's any diagnostic steps. Having a code works best. Their service data for 3rd party "shops" isn't the most comprehensive.

I can also pull all your option codes, PCM enabling codes, and service history if interested.
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