At 82k mi…

Apparently a broken valve spring lead to a valve becoming disconnected and rattling around in my cylinder number 4.

Probably something like this: 14:30+ in video

Except my pan and block are still intact.

Any chance of recourse from Ford on this allegedly solid engine? Single owner. All scheduled maintenance. No mods.

Any possibility the $3k on recently replaced (January) spark plugs (both sets) and wires and other svc caused something to cause this?

Other svc performed at that time:
.Coil packs on 5&7 replaced
.Throttle body svc and clean
."Injector flush svc" required injector clean and flush rail
."Direct injection induction service" that required runners and valve soak and flush

If not, any ideas of best way out? Rest of truck (Gen 1 Raptor, black on black) is in good shape and has a new fuel pump. Tommie Vaughn says $17k for reman crate engine swap.

If you decide to go another direction and sell this truck with a bad engine, let me know!

Sell that turd and get a 5.3….for reliability and mpg. I know a guy

The 6.2 Ford has a pretty good reputation, so this sounds like just an unlucky occurrence.

If it was mine, I'd find a good independent shop to replace the engine which will be thousands cheaper then the dealer. Be careful of where the engine comes from as there is a lot of crap rebuilt engines, such as much of the "rebuilt" stuff on Ebay. There are a LOT of crap parts on Ebay and a LOT of low quality engine rebuilds that will fail. I've had mechanics tell me even Jasper isn't that great anymore.

I'd either do a Ford remanufactured replacement or source a low mileage used engine.

Thank you all for your input. So Im leaning more towards picking it up from TV and having someone tear down to see if theres really no way to machine the block.

Ive been out of the car forum game for a while since all these titty baby engines have come out so Im not on the up and up on good shops around town.

I was in a bind so took it to TV; no way was I planning on paying them $17k when Ford reman crate engines are half that. However I would like some sort of guarantee and/ or the fixer to hopefully be around the next few years.

Low mileage 6.2's from raptors are not quite the easiest. Most copart listings have major front end damage or are 100k miles+. I read the super duty 6.2 has different cams. Please tell me if thats not true or if theres another source besides dumpster diving for a used low mileage engine.

This has been a great daily and is worth ~$35-40k (when running) ; Ive had it the entire time. I dont really want to drop $30-50k on a newer car with unknown history if I dont have to.

Ive always had two cars but also used to drive a lot more for work. Now Im lucky if I put 8-10k/yr, so I only have this one.

How much do you think I should expect to bend over when I tell them Im towing it out of there?

Just had my 17 6.7L do the same. Was quoted 18k for a new block. Looking to sell it as is. Been a fun couple weeks.

Rebuild for boost, 3.8L Whipple, profit, we'll maybe not profit but toms of fun!

Or I could sell as is and get a 392 jeep or something. I think a sclade V might be too in your face, but maybe not

kansas02gt said:

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Or I could sell as is and get a 392 jeep or something. I think a sclade V might be too in your face, but maybe not

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Still interested in your Raptor as is. Not sure if you have seen my other post's, but I'm glutton for punishment.

392 Jeep is the way to go! I love mine!

After talking to Ford, I think the time has come unfortunately for me to break up with them.

She's still at TV, but after doing loads of research, it appears there are two main hurdles:
1. 6.2 crates are 4-6 month lead time…at best
2. Any shop outside a dealer will still be at least $12-15k, little to no warranty. $12k was a starting point if there are no issues along the way. I dont want a Jasper (they cant get blocks anyway due to govt priority)

Ford basically said, thanks for being a lifetime generational loyal customer, and spending your money at our dealers for routine service, but keep your receipts just in case there is a future recall…

Is there really a possibility of Ford giving one single F when these blocks are going by the wayside anyway?

Unless there is a massive repair spend on whatever the 6.2's are littered through the government fleet, I do not envision Ford being compelled to invest any resources in a recall or similar program/event to consumers.

Am I totally wrong or is there any hope?

Since the valve spring is not what I would say common, but definitely not one off, I thought there would at least have been a TSB.

Same thing with a melted fuse which required fuel pump replacement and some fuse box work (a more common known issue).

I also wasnt expecting $17k+ (virtually half the value of the truck with running engine) for a replacement, or for them to be on back order forever.

1. Yep. His base is $3k to start, new crate is about $10k to start, so was guessing $15k+ by time its said and done. No warranty.
2. No. Imnot that familiar with engine shops in the area. Ill check them out.
3. Was looking for $28-30k, just going by copart. Could be totally off base.

I also feel like if i put a new engine in at 80k mi, the truck is pretty much mine forever. Which is fine but i will have spent $23k+ on this truck in the last year if I do an engine (granted that's at the dealer but still).

Would you be interested in selling the truck as is instead of getting it repaired yourself? I have been looking for a new daily and not opposed to one that needs some TLC

it's absolute insanity how expensive it has become.

Gotta know when to cut your losses.

If you can sell it as is, it is best to walk away.

Furlock Bones said:

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it's absolute insanity how expensive it has become.

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And the chitty quality of newer stuff, I'll hang into my 163k '14 5.3L as long as I can, nothing but tires, a battery and routine maintenance to date.

The rest of the truck is in great shape; I just dont want to dump a lot into it then have something like a transmission have major surprises.

I was about to do the rear brakes and the shocks will need a rebuild within the next 15k mi or so.

Unfortunately I need to nix my emotional attachment, but I know in 10-15 years Ill kick myself for getting rid of it. My nephews would love it, and would be a good ranch truck at that point.

Exactly. Less electronics the better.

Texasclipper said:

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The 6.2 Ford has a pretty good reputation, so this sounds like just an unlucky occurrence.

If it was mine, I'd find a good independent shop to replace the engine which will be thousands cheaper then the dealer. Be careful of where the engine comes from as there is a lot of crap rebuilt engines, such as much of the "rebuilt" stuff on Ebay. There are a LOT of crap parts on Ebay and a LOT of low quality engine rebuilds that will fail. I've had mechanics tell me even Jasper isn't that great anymore.

I'd either do a Ford remanufactured replacement or source a low mileage used engine.

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Need a compression test on a used engine...

kansas02gt said:

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1. Yep. His base is $3k to start, new crate is about $10k to start, so was guessing $15k+ by time its said and done. No warranty.
2. No. Imnot that familiar with engine shops in the area. Ill check them out.
3. Was looking for $28-30k, just going by copart. Could be totally off base.

I also feel like if i put a new engine in at 80k mi, the truck is pretty much mine forever. Which is fine but i will have spent $23k+ on this truck in the last year if I do an engine (granted that's at the dealer but still).

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But there will be a warranty….

Try thuderbolt

https://www.tbolt.net/

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But there will be a warranty….

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On just the engine? Or both engine and labor?