I-45 Street Racing Epidemic

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BenTheGoodAg
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Someone posted this one on the GB recently. Almost makes me queasy to watch. Doing like 150mph average around the loop.


robertcope
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Not one **** given about all the people that they could have killed or maimed on their stupid run. Amazing.
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txags92 said:

Ogre09 said:

I feel like traffic enforcement dropped off during COVID and only came back a small fraction of previous levels.
Traffic enforcement dropped off during 2020 in response to BLM and "Defund the Police" movements. Thousands of cops around the state that were in position to do so quit or retired from major metro area forces. They were not replaced by anybody, as funding levels changed and cadet classes were cancelled or went unfilled. The priorities of the departments have changed and traffic enforcement is at or near the bottom with car burglary, cat converter theft, etc. At the same time, everybody got used to driving a lot faster with open roads, thousands of new people from south of the border or from places like California have moved in who don't know how traffic flow is supposed to work, etc. Put it all together and you get chaos on the roads.

You're nearly on target.

In the wake of COVID and George Floyd, departments everywhere had a double justification for minimizing interactions with the public. At first, it was to prevent the entire department from calling out sick. Then the lasting reason was no agency wanted to be the next MPD. Eliminating traffic stops means much less chance of a fentanyl OD in the back of a squad car by the next name sake of the Yates High football field.
The Dog Lord
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txags92 said:

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Historically, in Houston, the proper driving form is to do 80 mph 2 lanes from the left and leave the left lane open for the 100 mph drivers. There are two problems with that.

Tell me you haven't driven in Houston in the last 10 years without telling me...

The left lane in Houston is now for the people who want to read their phone or curl their eyelashes while driving 2-3 mph over the speed limit. If you want to do 75+, the only available lane for that is the right lane, because nobody drives there anymore except the occasional lawn care truck pulling a trailer at 10 under the speed limit.

Agree with this. The ticket I got this summer was partially due to everyone else driving slow as ****. Does no one else have a death wish anymore? For shame!
cbr
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Speed is never the problem. Unskilled drivers are absolutely absurd. Its the same on a track. A competent driver is boringly safe going way faster than an unskilled driver at basically half speed. A gifted driver is a work of art at any speed.

Problem is, the only way to become a skilled driver is by spending a lot of your own time and money learning it.
htxag09
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The Fife said:

Houston... on the driver intelligence / aggressiveness chart they'd be on the dumb end of the scale / highly aggressive. The worst combo to be surrounded by.
While I agree...how much of it is just opportunity? Drivers everywhere are dumb and aggressive, and lets not forget extremely distracted. Houston just has a more sprawling highway system than other cities. I don't encounter any drivers like the OP, but I'm also driving from Heightsish area to the Galleria, not much opportunity to speed and swerve in and out of traffic.
Ogre09
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cbr said:

Speed is never the problem. Unskilled drivers are absolutely absurd. Its the same on a track. A competent driver is boringly safe going way faster than an unskilled driver at basically half speed. A gifted driver is a work of art at any speed.

Problem is, the only way to become a skilled driver is by spending a lot of your own time and money learning it.


Higher speed is higher energy, and worse outcomes in a crash. Large speed differences (one idiot going 140mph while everyone else is doing 70mph) are more likely to lead to a crash. And we shouldn't expect people commuting on public roads to be skilled professionals at driving.
MouthBQ98
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The fast bikes don't bother me so much. They are maneuverable and light and usually only kill themselves if they make an error.
I'd never do anything like that. Too much road debris in a Houston. One pallet of ladder and you are f'd.

It's the jackasses in 3000-5000lb vehicles weaving through traffic at reckless speeds with reckless clearance, no indicators, and hoping that nobody happens to change lanes or brake tap randomly in front of them that bothers me. Drive as fast as you want in the left lane in light traffic. As soon as there's any kind of traffic building, slow the F down. I don't want to get stuck behind the wreck traffic while they are cutting your body out of the vehicle remains.
The Fife
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htxag09 said:

The Fife said:

Houston... on the driver intelligence / aggressiveness chart they'd be on the dumb end of the scale / highly aggressive. The worst combo to be surrounded by.
While I agree...how much of it is just opportunity? Drivers everywhere are dumb and aggressive, and lets not forget extremely distracted. Houston just has a more sprawling highway system than other cities. I don't encounter any drivers like the OP, but I'm also driving from Heightsish area to the Galleria, not much opportunity to speed and swerve in and out of traffic.
I've lived in a lot of different parts of the country and stupidity and aggressiveness do vary a lot IMO. Like in Boston they were really aggressive but low on the stupid side. I never really saw any of the dumbassery that I've encountered in San Antonio and Houston.

In Charleston where I am now, low aggression but kind of dumb. They do derpy things but generally at a lower speed. Like turning left onto a road with two lanes, the close one will stop and try to wave the person through even though they have no damn clue what's going on in the other lane and at risk of getting t-boned because they can't see anyone coming. Very stupid, not aggressive.

Houston, San Antonio, dumb as hell and assertive about it. The only places I've seen someone pass people in the left lane on a freeway using a paved median. Super road ragey over pretty much anything. Stopping on freeway onramps and looking for a gap instead of merging into traffic at speed. Dumb and aggressive is the worst possible combo.
JSKolache
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Did OP type that up on a keyboard?
Complete Idiot
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Coming back from MSU road trip in 2020, we were on a 4 lane highway in Mississippi with what seemed to be a 100 yard median. No one in front of me for as far as the eye could see and riding with a friend I've been on road trips with for 25 years and who hit 136 with four of us in his 2 door Acura CL coming back from a game in Lubbock back in the early 2000's. I told him I'm going to break that, and floor it. Got up to 144 before a rise in the road resulted in not being able to see far enough ahead of me, I felt the car was still accelerating but I stopped. 2014 Audi A6 TDI with a tune. There was no one else in either direction, on a clear good weather day, but still dumb I guess.
ILikeTacos
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Well **** if we are just bragging now…
Yesterday
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I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.
Ogre09
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I got my mom's Chrysler Town and Country up to 105 on a county road outside Midland coming home from a friend's house in high school. It did not enjoy going that fast.
Burdizzo
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Yesterday said:

I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.


The prison term I might be able to live with. The thought of beinh responsible for someone else's death due to my own recklessness is what finally convinced me to stop doing this like what are talked about in this thread
Obi Wan Ginobili
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Burdizzo said:

Yesterday said:

I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.


The prison term I might be able to live with. The thought of beinh responsible for someone else's death due to my own recklessness is what finally convinced me to stop doing this like what are talked about in this thread


The guy who started this thread hasn't reached that point. They think they are gods gift to driving and it's ok when they speed but everyone else is stupid.
HollywoodBQ
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Obi Wan Ginobili said:

Burdizzo said:

Yesterday said:

I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.


The prison term I might be able to live with. The thought of beinh responsible for someone else's death due to my own recklessness is what finally convinced me to stop doing this like what are talked about in this thread


The guy who started this thread hasn't reached that point. They think they are gods gift to driving and it's ok when they speed but everyone else is stupid.
Reading comprehension fail.

I said, I'm cool with hanging out 20 mph over the speed limit and leaving the left lane open for the folks who want to do 40 over the speed limit.

It's the folks doing 60+ mph over the speed limit and the guys in a 1990s 4Runner weaving through traffic that I have a problem with.
HollywoodBQ
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Yesterday said:

I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.
Yeah, partially why my daily driver these days is Jeep Wrangler. It's good for 80 mph and that's about it.

Unfortunately I sold my old VW Bus. It topped out around 70 mph but looked cool doing it.
Obi Wan Ginobili
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HollywoodBQ said:

Obi Wan Ginobili said:

Burdizzo said:

Yesterday said:

I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.


The prison term I might be able to live with. The thought of beinh responsible for someone else's death due to my own recklessness is what finally convinced me to stop doing this like what are talked about in this thread


The guy who started this thread hasn't reached that point. They think they are gods gift to driving and it's ok when they speed but everyone else is stupid.
Reading comprehension fail.

I said, I'm cool with hanging out 20 mph over the speed limit and leaving the left lane open for the folks who want to do 40 over the speed limit.

It's the folks doing 60+ mph over the speed limit and the guys in a 1990s 4Runner weaving through traffic that I have a problem with.



Reading fail? Your exact words, copy/paste. You literally bragged about being one of the "folks doing 60+ mph over the sled limit". You're also on the edge of saying it's poor people causing the problem since you only call out them. You didn't mention all the oil and gas goobers in their white F150 ecoboosts flying up and down 45 but that's cool.

"I'll start by saying, I speed all the time and I've driven 120+ mph several times on Interstate Highways with my top speed being 132 mph back in 2006 while driving my 2002 BMW M3 on "The 15" approaching Primm, Nevada on the way from LA to Vegas. The car had more to offer, I just ran out of road. When you make a high speed run like that, in no time, you're on those cars that were miles ahead of you when you started."

Nice thread though. You're really cool!
Burdizzo
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HollywoodBQ said:

Yesterday said:

I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.
Yeah, partially why my daily driver these days is Jeep Wrangler. It's good for 80 mph and that's about it.

Unfortunately I sold my old VW Bus. It topped out around 70 mph but looked cool doing it.


Non sequitur
AtlAg05
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Is it because everyone is late for something or because their car is capable of the performance?
Jetpilot86
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I've done 120 in my Mustang GT Convertible. Top down. Just to see. My record is 140. On a closed track at Disney, in a Sprint car.

Alligator Expressway practically begs for you to do so, long, straight & flat. However, when I was, there was miles of open road and I backed off when I saw slower traffic ahead. Going so fast on a bike, 185+, in traffic that the speedometer blanks? Ya, pure narcissistic stupidity.

The idiots I see pulling the same stunt on the super bikes on I-595 or even worse, on a road through my town, are the ones that I have no respect for. Simply for putting innocents at risk.
The Fife
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Jetpilot86 said:

...Going so fast on a bike, 185+, in traffic that the speedometer blanks? Ya, pure narcissistic stupidity. ...

How do you even come down from that kind of speed? I'd imagine you'd have to ease off the throttle instead of pulling all the way back because you'd lose control due to too much deceleration?
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Jetpilot86 said:

I've done 120 in my Mustang GT Convertible. Top down. Just to see. My record is 140. On a closed track at Disney, in a Sprint car.

Alligator Expressway practically begs for you to do so, long, straight & flat. However, when I was, there was miles of open road and I backed off when I saw slower traffic ahead. Going so fast on a bike, 185+, in traffic that the speedometer blanks? Ya, pure narcissistic stupidity.

The idiots I see pulling the same stunt on the super bikes on I-595 or even worse, on a road through my town, are the ones that I have no respect for. Simply for putting innocents at risk.




Here in San Antonio I had a bike blow past me a few weeks ago on US 281. He was going so fast it rocked the truck.

A few days later I had a Bandido split the lane between me and another car. His delta was about 20. That was a little unsettling with a Harley.

My observation is that the street racers in San Antonio tend to be pony car types (Mustangs, Challengers, Camaros). They will drive fast on the freeways, but pretty rare to see one at 100+. A lot of those guys would rather do donuts and burnouts. The real scary street racer people are usually on bikes.
HollywoodBQ
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Jetpilot86 said:

I've done 120 in my Mustang GT Convertible. Top down. Just to see. My record is 140. On a closed track at Disney, in a Sprint car.

Alligator Expressway practically begs for you to do so, long, straight & flat. However, when I was, there was miles of open road and I backed off when I saw slower traffic ahead. Going so fast on a bike, 185+, in traffic that the speedometer blanks? Ya, pure narcissistic stupidity.

The idiots I see pulling the same stunt on the super bikes on I-595 or even worse, on a road through my town, are the ones that I have no respect for. Simply for putting innocents at risk.
Yeah, South Florida is a whole different ballgame.

I don't know if you remember back to the exploding Ford Firestone tire days but there was an epic deadly crash there of a family in a fully loaded down Explorer doing 80+ when they had a blowout.
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Ya, that had something to do with Ford running a lower tire pressure than Firestone recommended to improve the ride of the Explorer. Headed up the tires when heavily loaded and Boom. Now Firestone tries to over inflate tires anytime they can.
HollywoodBQ
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Obi Wan Ginobili said:

HollywoodBQ said:

Obi Wan Ginobili said:

Burdizzo said:

Yesterday said:

I did 186 on my Yamaha R1 in college. 142 in my Viper. Both on empty roads. At some point you think of killing someone else and spending several years in prison for manslaughter.

The bike scared me enough to sell it. I couldn't ride it without going 100mph. Thankfully my fast days are behind me.


The prison term I might be able to live with. The thought of beinh responsible for someone else's death due to my own recklessness is what finally convinced me to stop doing this like what are talked about in this thread


The guy who started this thread hasn't reached that point. They think they are gods gift to driving and it's ok when they speed but everyone else is stupid.
Reading comprehension fail.

I said, I'm cool with hanging out 20 mph over the speed limit and leaving the left lane open for the folks who want to do 40 over the speed limit.

It's the folks doing 60+ mph over the speed limit and the guys in a 1990s 4Runner weaving through traffic that I have a problem with.



Reading fail? Your exact words, copy/paste. You literally bragged about being one of the "folks doing 60+ mph over the sled limit". You're also on the edge of saying it's poor people causing the problem since you only call out them. You didn't mention all the oil and gas goobers in their white F150 ecoboosts flying up and down 45 but that's cool.

"I'll start by saying, I speed all the time and I've driven 120+ mph several times on Interstate Highways with my top speed being 132 mph back in 2006 while driving my 2002 BMW M3 on "The 15" approaching Primm, Nevada on the way from LA to Vegas. The car had more to offer, I just ran out of road. When you make a high speed run like that, in no time, you're on those cars that were miles ahead of you when you started."

Nice thread though. You're really cool!

You've never driven through the desert have you?

Or on "The 5" next to Camp Pendleton where the only thing for 20 miles is an immigration checkpoint that's usually closed. I haven't been that way in years but I've heard they've got CHP patrolling it now.

But back in probably 2007, one of my most epic getting passed situations was doing 120 mph next to Camp Pendleton in my M3 and getting passed by a 65 y/o man in a Mercedes 600SL doing about 125 mph. I followed him for another 10 miles into The O.C. Hardly anyone else on the highway. It was glorious.
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Zero problem with people doing ludicrous speed out in the middle of nowhere with long sight lines. Have at it.
txags92
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Jetpilot86 said:

Ya, that had something to do with Ford running a lower tire pressure than Firestone recommended to improve the ride of the Explorer. Headed up the tires when heavily loaded and Boom. Now Firestone tries to over inflate tires anytime they can.
Actually it was mostly people taking their Exploders off-road and airing down for traction in the desert, then not airing back up when they got on the road and drove their vehicle loaded down with people and camping gear at or above highway speeds.
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Not sure the general public knew anything about airing down for desert use, and I'm thinking that the Venn diagram of people involved in Exploder rollovers and those who went offroading in said Explorers had close to 0% overlap. Ford definitely had a very low recommended tire pressure for on-road use in the late 90s.
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[This post is why you were banned. -Staff]
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Got passed by another maniac on that trip.
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Wow you banned YouBet for that?!
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Pahdz said:

Wow you banned YouBet for that?!

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Pahdz said:

Wow you banned YouBet for that?!


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