15 years later and it's here!

I think they knocked it out of the park. If I needed to carry 8 adults, 3 dogs, and tow a boat, i'd consider it.

Curious about price. They are going to sell a billion of these

I agree. I think this might be our next SUV when my wife's 2015 X3 gives out.

Flaith said:

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I think they knocked it out of the park. If I needed to carry 8 adults, 3 dogs, and tow a boat, i'd consider it.

Curious about price. They are going to sell a billion of these

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I'd assume you can build a Tundra to your specs and then add $10k to that figure, that's what the Sequoia will cost.

Definitely gonna have to take a hard look at these when they come out. Very impressed.

I like it more than the 3rd gen Tundra.

Every trim level looks good to great.

I like it. However, there is one issue and that is the storage area. Wish there was an option to delete the third row.

Love that white TRD in the video

I hate the capstone grill, but the other (less expensive) trim levels look fine. I hope they have one at the Houston Auto Show that starts today.

Damn that looks nice. Don't think I'll be willing to pay what they will inevitably want for it though

That TRD Pro is a consideration if I ever decide to move on from the '13 Land Cruiser (or it ends up with my son).

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I like it. However, there is one issue and that is the storage area. Wish there was an option to delete the third row.

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Wait, do the third row seats not lay flat?

For all of the good things that Toyota does, they do some really stupid things to balance it out.

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I like it. However, there is one issue and that is the storage area. Wish there was an option to delete the third row.

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Absolutely. With the 3rd row folded hardly any luggage / cargo can be loaded before you start blocking rearward vision. If the 3rd row cannot be removed without tools, or deleted from the vehicle during ordering this is a huge gaffe. The Ford and GM twins have figured out how to stow the 3rd row without seeming to raise the load floor significantly. It looks like Toyota can't stow the 3rd row without raising the load floor 12 - 18 inches.

On all other accounts this is a knock out, but that is a huge sticking point for those of us that do not regularly need a 3rd row and would prefer to have maximum cargo space.

As an Airstream owner I do appreciate how every new vehicle has to have a shot of it towing an Airstream.

The third row thing is an automatic disqualifier for me. We don't need the third row on a normal basis

Minivan!

But if I really needed an SUV... I'd consider it.

And as a parent with 4 kids, I need more cargo room than that. #minivan

Liked everything about this, but that is really weird.

I'm going to be a wet blanket, but it looks like the press picture has some rear end sag with that Airstream.

And like the Tundra, where are the front end recovery points in the off road kits?

I like the look of it, but not sold yet. Need to spend more time with one.

Dang, that's a good looking vehicle.

The third row thing is a real issue, but that's because the Seqouia has a solid rear axle just like the Tundra. That's why the floor height is higher back there.

Expedition and Tahoe/Yukon have independent rear suspension.

As someone who bought a 21 last summer I was hoping they delayed the huge upgrade to 23.

Engine, cockpit, and 2nd row heated/cooled are big improvements.

And I'm sure the 3rd row lays flat as it currently does.

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The third row thing is a real issue, but that's because the Seqouia has a solid rear axle just like the Tundra. That's why the floor height is higher back there.

Expedition and Tahoe/Yukon have independent rear suspension.

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Yep, and that is a little surprising. I don't mind a stick axle, but the load floor compromise is another reason they really should give us a choice to delete the 3rd row when we order one. Unfortunately, I doubt Toyota is going to give us the option of deleting it, and I'm not sure how easy it will be to remove it, and what the resulting load floor will look like.

That is nice but like others said I wish the 3rd row was removable. I don't need it.

Seems like you are stuck with it although you can move it around a bit; just can't remove it altogether:

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The third row also reclines and can be had with power-folding; it can be optioned with the Sliding Third Row with Adjustable Cargo Shelf System, which has 6-inches of fore/aft movement and a removable shelf.

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I assume the 2023 4Runner will be the 2-row seat version of this, but just read it's going to have 3 rows too. That is perplexing. Hopefully, it can be removed in the 4Runner.

Sazerac said:

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As someone who bought a 21 last summer I was hoping they delayed the huge upgrade to 23.

Engine, cockpit, and 2nd row heated/cooled are big improvements.

And I'm sure the 3rd row lays flat as it currently does.

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3rd Row doesn't fold flat, that's why they are including the adjustable shelf. Seems really odd. I really am a fan of the exterior design but the interior looks significantly smaller than the current model and the Expy/Tahoe.

I must have missed that. 3rd row is fixed with seats upright all the time? That is an immediate deal breaker for me then.

damn that thing looks good. I know what the wife will be driving next when her 4runner gets put out to pasture

Yeah the 3rd row is awful. Without that, I was really thinking this might be my wife's next vehicle. But we rarely need the 3rd row and when we don't it shouldn't take up half the cargo space.

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I must have missed that. 3rd row is fixed with seats upright all the time? That is an immediate deal breaker for me then.

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It looks like they fold in half and are really thick. Like a 90s suburban but not removable.

Sazerac said:

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I must have missed that. 3rd row is fixed with seats upright all the time? That is an immediate deal breaker for me then.

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No, they fold down and can move forward 6 inches, but they don't fold flush into the body.

Yeah this is beyond stupid if the only option is to physically remove it. The handful of times I'd need to haul that many people for the short distance I'd haul them they can just get to know each other a little better in the back seat of the Tundra.

Houston auto show just announced on FB that they will have a Sequioa there.

Great upgrade. I was really hoping with sharing the base with the Tundra, they would come out with two models. Short and Long version (tahoe/surburban) to compete directly with Chevy. With a long version included, you have three versions. Short with two rows, short with three rows and Long three rows w/extra cargo. Will see what they do,

TRD Pro version should be the two row version. I wouldn't mind the TRD Pro with just the 1/3 bench seat in the third row. 2/3 seat removed for cargo.

Only having the hybrid is dumb too. If it's like previous sequoia model, it'll outlast the batteries.

Also, I think the seats fold flat in Lx600 so not sure why they couldn't here. It's supposed to be the same platform.