Colorado/Canyon thoughts?

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txags92
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meggy09 said:

I thought you were talking about offroad ability. What does the interior have to do with that?

That's why I asked what you were basing the taco bring more capable off of. Say a TRDOR vs Z71, then I'm onboard. The Taco would have an actual locking rear where I'd guess the Colorado has the "auto" locking.

You could argue either are good enough for 99% of what people do though. Or your could use your own line of thinking that GM decided people were going to mod it anyway so they skimped..? Actually that doesn't make any sense.

I was, and still am. The TRD Pro makes up about 1200 mid-sized trucks out of about 275,000 that Toyota sells every year. The ZR2 Bison makes up about 2000-2500 of the 160,000 or so that Chevy and GM sell every year. When comparing the 2, I agree the Bison comes out ahead due to the dual lockers. However for the other 90-95% of the model range, the Toyota wins in the off-road capability duel. If you go look at TacomaWorld, there are a ton of guys with TRD Pros that are putting thousands of dollars in additional mods on their trucks and Toyota acknowledges that fact of life in what they choose to put on the trucks.

If you want to spend $60k for your truck and never plan to mod it again, by all means get the XR2 Bison and walk away happy. But if you would rather spend 35-40k and have a wide range of models all capable of off-roading well and that can be easily modded with a huge range of available options, the Toyota is the easy choice.

Knowing that the Toyota is in the top 3 Brands for reliability and the Chevy is very near the bottom, and that the Colorado specifically is in the bottom 10 lowest reliability vehicles, also means something for off-roading. When you are dozens of miles from the nearest paved road with no cell service and extremely limited options for assistance, having a low reliability vehicle is a terrible choice.
Naveronski
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Are you on TW? Come stop by the Texas section if so.
Silvy
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txags92 said:

If you go look at TacomaWorld, there are a ton of guys with TRD Pros that are putting thousands of dollars in additional mods on their trucks

OME lift kit, snorkel, yellow fog lights, and a set of mounted MAXTRAX.
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txags92 said:

I drive a Tacoma and love it. My two issues with the newest Colorado/Canyon are 1) the sides on the bed are so tall it is nearly impossible to reach into the bed from the sides and get anything out;
I hate this about most trucks. I think the manufacturers are doing it to boast about bed volume, a metric that no one cares about but can be marked a win on the spec sheet vs competitors.
txags92
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Naveronski said:

Are you on TW? Come stop by the Texas section if so.
I use the same username over there. Post fairly rarely on the 3rd gen forum...haven't really looked elsewhere much.
Naveronski
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1agswitchin4lanes said:

AgEng06 said:

Hey, he said he wanted a mid-size.
Other than the physical size, I dont see the advantage of any of the mid size trucks.

Cost, fuel economy, maneuverability, all have no significant advantage.
Question about "maneuverability". I had a Silverado and then a Yukon XL. I love the look of the full size trucks, but 99% of my driving is big city roads, crowded parking lots and parking garages. I got really tired of the size and switched to a midsize SUV. I'd love to drive a truck though. I'd assume the Canyon is easier to park and turn given it's narrower wheel base (which I am also just assuming that it has a narrower wheel base).

But, to be honest I don't see many midsize trucks. I see fully optioned out Silverado/Sierras and F-150/250's that never leave the concrete. But, look sweet.
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But, to be honest I don't see many midsize trucks. I see fully optioned out Silverado/Sierras and F-150/250's that never leave the concrete. But, look sweet.
White Oakleys/Costas, Flat Brim hat, salt life/salt water soul sticker on the back, and the annual trip to take Karen and your snowflakes Cyle and Ashleigh to galveston and take your profile pic of IG to show you took the pavement princess close to sand.
ATL Aggie
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txags92 said:

Its Not Rocket Surgery said:

I'll leave this here FWIW. CR apparently receiving a lot of reports about drivetrains in to 2020 models.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2578463001
Ouch, that is gonna leave a mark on all those commercials about their JD Power awards for quality and dependability...

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10 least reliable models of 2020, according to Consumer Reports:

  • Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon (same body style, different badging)
  • Chevrolet Camaro
  • Jeep Wrangler
  • Alfa Romeo Giulia
  • Volkswagen Atlas
  • Volkswagen Tiguan
  • Acura MDX
  • Tesla Model X
  • Chrysler Pacifica
  • Chevrolet Traverse
How automotive brands ranked for reliability:
1 Lexus
2 Mazda
3 Toyota
4 Porsche
5 Genesis
6 Hyundai
7 Subaru
8 Dodge
9 Kia
10 Mini
11 Nissan
12 Honda
13 Infiniti
14 Audi
15 Lincoln
16 Ford
17 BMW
18 Buick
19 Chrysler
20 Mitsubishi
21 Mercedes-Benz
22 GMC
23 Tesla
24 Volvo
25 Chevrolet
26 Jeep
27 Volkswagen
28 Acura
29 Alfa Romeo
30 Cadillac


How are Honda and Acura so far apart on this list?

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ATL Aggie said:

txags92 said:

Its Not Rocket Surgery said:

I'll leave this here FWIW. CR apparently receiving a lot of reports about drivetrains in to 2020 models.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/2578463001
Ouch, that is gonna leave a mark on all those commercials about their JD Power awards for quality and dependability...

Quote:

10 least reliable models of 2020, according to Consumer Reports:

  • Chevrolet Colorado/GMC Canyon (same body style, different badging)
  • Chevrolet Camaro
  • Jeep Wrangler
  • Alfa Romeo Giulia
  • Volkswagen Atlas
  • Volkswagen Tiguan
  • Acura MDX
  • Tesla Model X
  • Chrysler Pacifica
  • Chevrolet Traverse
How automotive brands ranked for reliability:
1 Lexus
2 Mazda
3 Toyota
4 Porsche
5 Genesis
6 Hyundai
7 Subaru
8 Dodge
9 Kia
10 Mini
11 Nissan
12 Honda
13 Infiniti
14 Audi
15 Lincoln
16 Ford
17 BMW
18 Buick
19 Chrysler
20 Mitsubishi
21 Mercedes-Benz
22 GMC
23 Tesla
24 Volvo
25 Chevrolet
26 Jeep
27 Volkswagen
28 Acura
29 Alfa Romeo
30 Cadillac


How are Honda and Acura so far apart on this list?


Two things, one, Honda sales volume is much higher, so they have a larger sampling.

Second, Acura cars are very tech heavy, and when things like those fail, consumer reports dings it when the customer surveys complain about them. Also, their main seller, the MDX, had some issues with the ZF9 automatic transmission, which really hurt the reliability ratings.
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Max Power said:

Have been without a truck for around 5-6 years, next year I'm planning on getting another one. The only 2 midsize trucks available with a crew cab and a 6' bed are the Tacoma and the Colorado/Canyon. My dad has a Tacoma, so I know exactly what to expect with one of those. I don't know anyone with either of the GM midsize trucks, but the reviews I've seen look good. I used to have a Silverado, but the entire time I owned it I think I towed something once, used the bed all the time though, which is why I'd prefer a midsize with a bed longer than 5'. I'd appreciate any insight from someone who's owned either of the GM midsize trucks on the positives/negatives of them.
I had a 2020 Colorado ZR2 for about 8 months. really like it. it was a VERY smooth ride with the DSSV dampers - would cruise over rough roads like it was nothing. fit and finish were pretty good, although some of the knobs and buttons in the ZR2 felt cheap compared to the full size chevrolet. I didn't care for the poor MPG of the ZR2 considering it had the 3.6L. parking the colorado was way easier than a full size, the thing would turn on a dime. and it actually performed pretty well from a towing standpoint - I towed a 22' mowdy numerous times and some lowboys.

I ended up selling it to go back to a full size pickup for more bed space and cab space. but would recommend to someone looking for a mid-size. I've driven the tacoma and the ZR2 blew it out of the water in terms of ride comfort and driver seating comfort. and technology for that matter too.
JSKolache
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PMD03 said:

txags92 said:

I drive a Tacoma and love it. My two issues with the newest Colorado/Canyon are 1) the sides on the bed are so tall it is nearly impossible to reach into the bed from the sides and get anything out;
I hate this about most trucks. I think the manufacturers are doing it to boast about bed volume, a metric that no one cares about but can be marked a win on the spec sheet vs competitors.
Its a wheel size issue. Back when 15" and 16" wheels were standard we could reach into beds just fine, now its all 18"+ and beds are outta reach. But of course you can buy a 19-way tailgate for 3k to sorta help out a bit.
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