I've got another stick > auto for you...

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Street Fighter
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you're not familiar with engine braking...



Engine breaking is fine when the engine is running and you are in the proper gear (ie, don't slap it in first when you're going 70), stupid when it has been shut down. What sane person actually thinks this is a good idea much less a benefit of a manual gear box????
CATAGBQ04
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TexasRebel
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stupid when it has been shut down


you keep saying this, but can't back it up...

it's very similar to roll starting... only with the ignition off.

...but you're probably against that, too.
sts7049
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what's the point? any explanation originating from somewhere other than your head is going to make as much sense to you as tits on a boar.
80085
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its stupid to exit a moving vehicle

and its stupid to try to tell us you don't know how to drive an automatic and then mock someone who may be less familiar with engine braking than you.


you are on a car forum, every one of us here knows how to drive a manual. You are not some super hero because you do it every day. I drive one every day and honestly its a pain in the ass. Sometimes I want to eat a sandwhich or talk on the phone when I'm in traffic. I also have the exact same vehicle as my DD in an automatic and it takes me .5 seconds after getting in it to realize this one has no clutch pedal, something must be different, maybe I should put it in park before getting out of the vehicle.

Your profile says you are a research engineer, really?

TexasRebel
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ahem...

robert... I'm not the one who strayed from the original topic.

As I am doing agricultural research... most of the equipment I operate is of the non-synchronous transmission type... the rest is hydrostatic.

...all except for the pickups. They had to be purchased for the LCD.

...and no. Not everyone here knows how to operate a vehicle with a manual shift. It is not a requirement to post here, but that doesn't mean those individuals have no desire to learn. I know one or two posters have actually recently learned.


The piece of equipment that I'm currently working with would be much easier to operate with a clutch than the current CVT. Just like a torque converter, there is a window where the engine will rev before the output shaft is powered that varies with load, incline, and temperature.

In the last four days, I've put close to 1,500 miles on a 3/4 ton with an automatic and I absolutely hate it. Shifting when it shouldn't, not shifting when it should, always under power with the brake pressed, sometimes doesn't have the power to coast forward when the brake is released (I'm not on pavement at the sites).

...and that doesn't even include the yelling I did while towing a mere 5,000# trailer.


...and just in case you were wondering... the three pedal automatic joke that CAT got was a model 'T'
p_bubel
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You seem to enjoy complicating relatively simple tasks man.

[This message has been edited by p_bubel (edited 3/24/2011 12:56a).]
CATAGBQ04
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Dude, can you just keep your thoughts to yourself?
Flaith
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Grego2007
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I read this thread and now my brain hurts. Thanks
NeuroticAg
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This thread was so much fail!
CATAGBQ04
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NeuroticAg
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Well that was uncalled for. Unlike TR, I actually know how to drive.
CATAGBQ04
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I was referring to our glorious all knowing OP
NeuroticAg
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I know.
TexasRebel
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you've still failed to describe the fail...
O'Doyle Rules
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TexasRebel is easily the biggest bozo on texags. Any thread, any forum he posts on just makes everyone else scratch their head.
big ben
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You seem to enjoy complicating relatively simple tasks man.


P-Bubel...Meet TexasRebel
TexasRebel
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Any thread, any forum he posts on just makes everyone else scratch their head.


I think that is because I generally try to properly form my sentences. I also tend to spell entire words out.

Past that it is simply bias. Outsiders on the Baseball board don't always understand my sense of humor, which carries over to this board, too. Then, instead of posting anything of substance to begin to explain why somebody thinks I am wrong, their default is to call me names.
CATAGBQ04
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Hey, I just accept that you're different.

We're all a little different...some (you) more than others.
terradactylexpress
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Holy **** please go back to posting happy ghey songs on the gb.
terradactylexpress
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Sappy*
CATAGBQ04
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you're not familiar with engine braking...

are you


You do realize that pads and rotors are MADE to stop a vehicle and are cheaper to replace than the many drivetrain components you are stressing by "engine braking" your F250 just to get your jollies off right?
CEPhD
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Hypothetically, if this automatic 3/4 ton you have been driving had a V10 would you like it better?
sts7049
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v10 = 2 extra cylinders for braking = better stopping power
TexasRebel
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CAT, if that is completely accurate, why is engine braking being designed into the newer automatics? ...and why does this pickup insist on overpowering the trailer brakes with the designed engine braking at every red light and stop sign while in tow/haul mode?

I do partially blame the timed brake controller for this, too. ...worst design ever.


GM never offered a V10 in their pickups... A 496 would be nice though, but those were out of the lineup long before this '08 was built. This 6.0 does just fine.
CATAGBQ04
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CAT, if that is completely accurate, why is engine braking being designed into the newer automatics? ...and why does this pickup insist on overpowering the trailer brakes with the designed engine braking at every red light and stop sign while in tow/haul mode?

I do partially blame the timed brake controller for this, too. ...worst design ever.


First of all, I can't believe I'm trying to reason with you.

Anyway, it's being engineered to assist with braking while towing (duh?), the exhaust brake on the GM will actually work with the Allison's torque converter and double the braking force, it's an excellent system that works very very well and they use them on all their transmissions all the way up to the 4500RDS which goes in class 7 & 8 HD trucks.

Sure, you downshifting your truck is going to give some engine braking...but throw a load behind it and it's easily defeated regardless. You can downshift an automatic manually and get he the same force...so that argument is moot, it will engine brake until the torque converter unlocks.

You know trailer brakes are adjustable right?
CATAGBQ04
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Engine brakes/braking isn't made to replace your brakes...it's for assisting your brakes/trailer brakes when they may be over powered IE hauling a heavy load down a hill.

You do understand that right?


[This message has been edited by CATAGBQ04 (edited 3/24/2011 2:37p).]
terradactylexpress
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This guy is such an ass clown.
TexasRebel
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Engine brakes/braking isn't made to replace your brakes...it's for assisting your brakes/trailer brakes when they may be over powered IE hauling a heavy load down a hill.

You do understand that right?


...and who made this claim? I surely did not.
sts7049
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TexasRebel
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You know trailer brakes are adjustable right?


that's the problem with timed controllers...

no matter where you set them, they aren't ever set properly.

As soon as your brake lights come on, the brake controller starts to ramp up the current from 0 to the set point at a fixed rate.

Well, if you stop quickly, the trailer brakes never assist as the controller is still near the 0 side of the ramp.

If you stop slowly and evenly, the trailer brakes start out with no resistance, and eventually are applied at full set power... which messes up the "evenly" part of the stopping.

That's why they cost around $20, and the cheapest proportional controllers are around $70. They are awful.
dubi
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TexasRebel,

We love ya for being unique, but it is time to let this thread die!

/eot

[This message has been edited by dubi (edited 3/24/2011 8:10p).]
big ben
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dubi
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Dear Big Ben,

DO NOT POST AFTER I SAY "EOT"!

Sincerely, dubi
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