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Higher res NAM
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whats the difference in NAM and High res NAM?
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NAM makes the first 9 hours of that sleet for the southern half of the HGX viewing area.
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Everyone having to drive their kids to Louisiana just to see some snow on the day off
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gigemJTH12 said:

whats the difference in NAM and High res NAM?
grid resolution...

meaning the distance between data points on the weather model: a 12k NAM has a grid spacing of 12 kilometers, while a 3k NAM has a grid spacing of 3 kilometers, making the 3k NAM significantly more detailed and capable of capturing smaller-scale weather features (i.e. banding features)
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Ignore the troll.

Probably buddy bee's latest sock.
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So to summarize, Houston 1-2" snow, then 3-5" with banding up to generational 10", to "closer to the coast, but still a lot," to …

Well, looks like it's all gonna be in Louisiana
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weather dorks
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JobSecurity said:

NAM

Its Katrina all over again.
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Mostly Foggy Recollection said:

gigemJTH12 said:

whats the difference in NAM and High res NAM?
grid resolution...

meaning the distance between data points on the weather model: a 12k NAM has a grid spacing of 12 kilometers, while a 3k NAM has a grid spacing of 3 kilometers, making the 3k NAM significantly more detailed and capable of capturing smaller-scale weather features (i.e. banding features)
no idea what any of that means!

is this think shifting to LA or we still getting snow here?
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We are over on the gazebo street, I'll keep an eye out
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Travis still thinks it'll be epic. So it'll be. Nothing burger given his history
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tk for tu juan said:

Everyone having to drive their kids to Louisiana just to see some snow on the day off

If snow hits Louisiana after all this build up? We better get some Florida crystal clear water in Galveston as recompensation. The weather gods owe us.
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Latest NWS

HOLD THE LINE

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That actually shows a shift NW since early this morning, if I'm reading it correctly. We are in Bellaire, and the early morning run showed us in the 3-4 range, now we are in 4-6.
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RVAg02 said:

That actually shows a shift NW since early this morning, if I'm reading it correctly. We are in Bellaire, and the early morning run showed us in the 3-4 range, now we are in 4-6.


Good
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soooo NWS or NAM?
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Scientific said:

tk for tu juan said:

Everyone having to drive their kids to Louisiana just to see some snow on the day off

If snow hits Louisiana after all this build up? We better get some Florida crystal clear water in Galveston as recompensation. The weather gods owe us.


I don't know what's more rare. Snow in Houston or clear water off Galveston beaches. Haha
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Latest from Lindner…
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I turned on my mPing reports. Jacksboro, TX reporting snow overcoming the dry lower levels. As that 700mb front moves south I'd expect it to produce some earlier snow showers.
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RVAg02 said:

That actually shows a shift NW since early this morning, if I'm reading it correctly. We are in Bellaire, and the early morning run showed us in the 3-4 range, now we are in 4-6.
see you at the top of the parking garage behind mandito's with a sixer and some sleds.
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Anyone seeing precip yet?
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Seeing a mPing report of snow or graupel between Corrigan And Diboll.
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So does it end up being an overreaction or still a legit winter storm thing?
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yes
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Lol winter storm
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RK said:

RVAg02 said:

That actually shows a shift NW since early this morning, if I'm reading it correctly. We are in Bellaire, and the early morning run showed us in the 3-4 range, now we are in 4-6.
see you at the top of the parking garage behind mandito's with a sixer and some sleds.
Did we just become best friends?
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Scientific said:

If snow hits Louisiana after all this build up? We better get some Florida crystal clear water in Galveston as recompensation. The weather gods owe us.

The Houston weather gods:



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RVAg02 said:

That actually shows a shift NW since early this morning, if I'm reading it correctly. We are in Bellaire, and the early morning run showed us in the 3-4 range, now we are in 4-6.


Meyerland-ish here. Same boat.
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jokershady said:

So does it end up being an overreaction or still a legit winter storm thing?

It's going to be a winter storm…
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FireAg said:

jokershady said:

So does it end up being an overreaction or still a legit winter storm thing?

It's going to be a winter storm…
Be careful going outside, your panties might freeze
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I Am A Critic said:

FireAg said:

jokershady said:

So does it end up being an overreaction or still a legit winter storm thing?

It's going to be a winter storm…
Be careful going outside, your panties might freeze

They're your wife's…
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Anyone else find it ironic that we drag the weather dudes through the coals for consistently whiffing on forecasts but here we are hanging on every word and update like it's the gospel?

Even more ironic considering it's got to be tougher to forecast winter weather as opposed to just typical rain (which they whiff on constantly too).
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New NWS forecast discussion. TLDR: it's gonna snow

Quote:

Issued at 303 PM CST Mon Jan 20 2025

*** HISTORIC WINTER STORM TO IMPACT SE TEXAS ***

KEY MESSAGES:

1) Deteriorating conditions are expected overnight with moderate to heavy mixed precipitation tomorrow morning and early afternoon.

2) Snow totals of 4-6" along and south of the I-10 corridor, 1-3" north of the I-10 corridor and SW of the Houston Metro. Higher amounts are possible in the strongest bands. Ice accumulations of up to 0.1" possible.

3) Extremely cold temperatures are expected on Tuesday night, with lows near or below 20 degrees.

4) Travel will be extremely hazardous and not possible at times.Driving should be avoided in impacted areas until conditions become safer.

Confidence has continued to increase in the prospect of a
historic winter storm to impact the area overnight tonight into tomorrow afternoon. Based on the current forecast, this will be the most significant winter storm the Greater Houston area has experienced since at least 1960. This is a highly unusual event for our region that will produce very hazardous travel conditions throughout the course of the day tomorrow and into the early parts of Wednesday. As such, it must be stressed that travel should be avoided at all costs until conditions become safer.

Synoptic models continue to remain on track with their depiction of a weak coastal low/trough in the Western Gulf that will continue to push northeastward tonight and into tomorrow. As this occurs, an amplified midlevel trough will push into the Southern Plains by tomorrow morning. Global models also placing SE TX within the right entrance region of a strong jet streak, thereby providing favorable conditions for vertical ascent/upper level divergence as the system approaches the SE TX coast.

Latest guidance indicates the onset of precipitation as early as 6 PM this evening across parts of the northern zones. Initial light precipitation is expected to fall as cold rain or a mix of rain, sleet, and snow as temperatures cool below freezing over the course of the overnight period. This could amount to some measurable snow and/or sleet before midnight, particularly across locations to the north of the I-10 corridor.

More significant precipitation will begin after midnight and
likely peak between approximately 6 AM and Noon tomorrow as the aforementioned low pressure system pushes closer to the coast.
Confidence remains high that most of this precipitation will fall as snow. However, we could see periods of a wintry mix depending on relatively small fluctuations in the temperature profile over the course of the event. Areas SW of the Houston Metro, where forecast soundings indicate a more robust layer of warm air aloft, may pick up some freezing rain during this time period with total ice accumulations between a hundredth and a tenth of an inch.

Between today`s suite of global model guidance, high resolution models, and probabilistic ensemble guidance, our forecast snowfall totals have experienced a slight shift to the south but otherwise have remained generally on track from the past few forecast packages. The heaviest snowfall continues to remain concentrated along and south of the I-10 corridor, particularly the southern portion of Metro Houston, Galveston Bay area, and the Galveston Island area. Widespread totals of 4-6" of snowfall are expected to fall in these locations, with the rest of SE Texas likely to see 1-3" of snowfall. Mesoscale models continue to show the potential of a few heavier bands of snow, and as such we could see some localized amounts higher than 6 inches. Winter precipitation should generally clear from north to south, with precipitation ending during the early afternoon hours. The temperature forecast tomorrow is complicated, and will be tied to the timing and location of any snowfall. Most locations will have the potential to break above freezing, if only slightly, but there`s a chance some areas may remain at or below freezing for the entire day. More clarity on this may not arrive until we are well into the event tomorrow.

Forecast snow totals certainly stand out in a historical context. While we will not break the all-time snowfall record for Houston (14" in 1895), a total of higher than 3" would surpass the 1960 winter storm as the second highest snowfall total in recorded history for Houston. As the forecast stands, this should be considered a generational winter storm event and its impacts should be taken seriously. Travel overnight and tomorrow will be extremely hazardous if not impossible for much of the area, and travel is highly discouraged. Roads will become slick and
difficult to drive on, with icing possible on elevated roadways
and bridges.

We continue to also anticipate a very cold morning on Wednesday, with the combined impacts of cold advection and a lingering snowpack bringing overnight lows to near or below 20 inland and in the mid 20s along the immediate coast. Low temperatures will be subject to the location of where the heaviest snow falls, and possible upward/downward adjustments in the forecast will be required once a better picture of the snowpack emerges. As such, we have maintained the Extreme Cold Watch for now, as some areas still are poised to reach wind chills of 10-15 degrees during the early part of Wednesday. The likely locations of the coldest lows/wind chills should emerge tomorrow afternoon. Regardless, these cold temperatures will allow for accumulated precipitation to remain on surfaces/roadways and also may result in refreezing of any lingering liquid.

 
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