I wouldn't be carrying at Bayou Music Center because I'm not going to go to a concert and not be slamming beers
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Don't worry, the really tweaked out guys in the neighborhood don't have it together enough to manage a really deadly weapon; unless you count a piece of pipe.
Security officer shoots suspect who attempted break-in at Federal Courthouse in downtown Houston (click2houston.com)
Security officer shoots suspect who attempted break-in at Federal Courthouse in downtown Houston (click2houston.com)
LOL that's hilarious, yeah man, that's all it was, just a nice black man looking for directions. He actually walked up on us pretty aggressively speaking gibberish after following us for a bit and he was actually pretty well built somehow...but clearly out of his f-ing mind. My wife was oblivious to it until he started approaching. Type of guy you wouldn't want just strolling up on your daughter and wife at night. Was surprised to see him in that particular part of the heights TBH.Texaggie7nine said:That's all you had to say. Criminals that actually are a threat and would merit drawing a gun on pretty much are going to avoid downtown that is full of cameras on every corner and street, armed cops and security all over and not an easy hop onto a freeway for a fast getaway.Quote:
obviously midtown is much worse
I'm sorry a black man with dreads scared you.
That being said, 6% of the population does commit nearly 60% of the murder and violent crime last I checked. So yeah, I am going to be more on guard at times when being approached by part of this group than I would be around, say, an Asian man. Because I am not stupid and have basic survival instincts.
Just curious, you seem to routinely white knight for black men, and even violent POS George Floyd if I remember correctly...what gives? Is this just part of being a good "white ally"?
Maybe I'm not a trashy groyper. I dunno.
I didn't defend Floyd.
I didn't defend Floyd.
7nine
What is a groyper? If that is someone who completely ignores data, statistics and reality to virtue signal or satiate their bleeding little heart, I am not one. Just a normal dude (with biracial offspring) who refuses to ignore reality and knows that certain demographic groups commit a vastly disproportionate amount of crime. Even Jesse Jackson knew this, and lamented it, back in the 80's i believe.Texaggie7nine said:
Maybe I'm not a trashy groyper. I dunno.
I didn't defend Floyd.
This is a ridiculous post.Texaggie7nine said:That's all you had to say. Criminals that actually are a threat and would merit drawing a gun on pretty much are going to avoid downtown that is full of cameras on every corner and street, armed cops and security all over and not an easy hop onto a freeway for a fast getaway.Quote:
obviously midtown is much worse
I'm sorry a black man with dreads scared you.
BG Knocc Out said:What is a groyper? If that is someone who completely ignores data, statistics and reality to virtue signal or satiate their bleeding little heart, I am not one. Just a normal dude (with biracial offspring) who refuses to ignore reality and knows that certain demographic groups commit a vastly disproportionate amount of crime. Even Jesse Jackson knew this, and lamented it, back in the 80's i believe.Texaggie7nine said:
Maybe I'm not a trashy groyper. I dunno.
I didn't defend Floyd.
Jesse did in fact say something about it, but I thought it was mid-90's.
maroon barchetta said:BG Knocc Out said:What is a groyper? If that is someone who completely ignores data, statistics and reality to virtue signal or satiate their bleeding little heart, I am not one. Just a normal dude (with biracial offspring) who refuses to ignore reality and knows that certain demographic groups commit a vastly disproportionate amount of crime. Even Jesse Jackson knew this, and lamented it, back in the 80's i believe.Texaggie7nine said:
Maybe I'm not a trashy groyper. I dunno.
I didn't defend Floyd.
Jesse did in fact say something about it, but I thought it was mid-90's.
Yep 90's, my bad
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how many points does "groyper" get you in scrabble? Must be a locally accepted word in your circle. My scrabble dictionary doesn't have that one.Texaggie7nine said:
Maybe I'm not a trashy groyper. I dunno.
I didn't defend Floyd.
Texaggie7nine said:That's all you had to say. Criminals that actually are a threat and would merit drawing a gun on pretty much are going to avoid downtown that is full of cameras on every corner and street, armed cops and security all over and not an easy hop onto a freeway for a fast getaway.Quote:
obviously midtown is much worse
I'm sorry a black man with dreads scared you.
You underestimate the trash that can be downtown. Just a couple weeks ago, a female prosecutor leaving work from the DAs office to her car and was randomly attacked by a homeless guy two blocks from the courthouse.
The only cops or security you see downtown are only the ones directing traffic after a sporting event or concert near MMP or Toyota Center
I've been to probably 20+ events at Bayou center. I've regularly seen cops either inside or around the building for events, same with the new 713 Music hall. There are cops that sit in cars all around downtown. There is a major station there in down town.
Sure, bad things can happen but it's much more likely to happen away from downtown, especially in southern Houston. We stay at hotels downtown many times a year and walk pretty much everywhere throughout the night even when going to bars. I feel much more need to be armed when going to the strip center near our home in Spring than I ever do downtown.
Sure, bad things can happen but it's much more likely to happen away from downtown, especially in southern Houston. We stay at hotels downtown many times a year and walk pretty much everywhere throughout the night even when going to bars. I feel much more need to be armed when going to the strip center near our home in Spring than I ever do downtown.
7nine
digging tunnels said:
The only cops or security you see downtown are only the ones directing traffic after a sporting event or concert near MMP or Toyota Center
HPD HQ is downtown and there's a large location on Lubbock just outside of downtown. Also a lot of Metro cops near/in the rail.
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Man, security services should employ you for consulting.Texaggie7nine said:
Sure, bad things can happen but it's much more likely to happen away from downtown, especially in southern Houston. We stay at hotels downtown many times a year and walk pretty much everywhere throughout the night even when going to bars. I feel much more need to be armed when going to the strip center near our home in Spring than I ever do downtown.
In the real world, in the last 48 hours worth of reporting there were 4 assaults, 2 reports of vandalism, 1 robbery and 7 thefts in the "Downtown" area.
And that's just what was reported.
It's funny that the people who would ridicule others for living in fear are absolutely scared to death to even be around other people without the ability to kill anyone that comes near them.
Meanwhile everyone else has to pay the societal cost for a heavily armed populous.
https://abc13.com/amp/road-rage-shooting-teen-girl-killed-17-year-old-shot-i45-gulf-freeway/14167001/
Just need more guns out there, i guess.
Meanwhile everyone else has to pay the societal cost for a heavily armed populous.
https://abc13.com/amp/road-rage-shooting-teen-girl-killed-17-year-old-shot-i45-gulf-freeway/14167001/
Just need more guns out there, i guess.
schmendeler said:
It's funny that the people who would ridicule others for living in fear are absolutely scared to death to even be around other people without the ability to kill anyone that comes near them.
Meanwhile everyone else has to pay the societal cost for a heavily armed populous.
https://abc13.com/amp/road-rage-shooting-teen-girl-killed-17-year-old-shot-i45-gulf-freeway/14167001/
Just need more guns out there, i guess.
Now do mask mandates.
What's that over there?
It's not a matter of living in fear.
I'm 40 years old and I've never experienced a house fire. My home still has smoke detectors. If my kids school didn't have smoke detection, alarms, emergency egress routes, perform drills regularly, have inspections, fire sprinklers, etc, heads would roll.
Tell me you don't have the same mind set.
Now take into account you're 8-10 times more likely to be a victim of violent crime than you are to be a victim of a fire.
Yet many people do NOTHING to mitigate their own victimhood.
Whatever, but don't come for me if decide not to be a victim.
I'm 40 years old and I've never experienced a house fire. My home still has smoke detectors. If my kids school didn't have smoke detection, alarms, emergency egress routes, perform drills regularly, have inspections, fire sprinklers, etc, heads would roll.
Tell me you don't have the same mind set.
Now take into account you're 8-10 times more likely to be a victim of violent crime than you are to be a victim of a fire.
Yet many people do NOTHING to mitigate their own victimhood.
Whatever, but don't come for me if decide not to be a victim.
Imagine if one side's argument to the problem of house fires wasn't that people should have fire insurance, that structures be required to have fire detectors, that there be minimum fire-resistance to building materials, that there be smoking restrictions around flammable products, etc, but that everyone just needs to have a lighter on or near their bodies at all time.
On a larger scale, that is in place. Talk to wild fire fighters.schmendeler said:
Imagine if one side's argument to the problem of house fires wasn't that people should have fire insurance, that structures be required to have fire detectors, that there be minimum fire-resistance to building materials, that there be smoking restrictions around flammable products, etc, but that everyone just needs to have a lighter on or near their bodies at all time.
But I don't disagree with your premise. If there was a reliable way to do it, I'd support it but even in the most secure environment imaginable, people find a way to kill others.
And I say this as 16 year security professional with a BA in Criminal Justice. So I'm not just some jerk with an idea.
One of the more awful arguments I've seen on Texags, and that is saying something.schmendeler said:
Imagine if one side's argument to the problem of house fires wasn't that people should have fire insurance, that structures be required to have fire detectors, that there be minimum fire-resistance to building materials, that there be smoking restrictions around flammable products, etc, but that everyone just needs to have a lighter on or near their bodies at all time.
And yet tons of people think that that makes sense with guns. And here we are.
I didn't disagree with your argument about infrastructure improvement. That doesn't mean I agree with you about removing guns from the hands of competent people with good intent.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying.
Oh no vandalism!!! Assaults!!! Which the majority of those downtown are going to be bums getting in to fights and bar fights. Theft, means when you weren't looking.DiskoTroop said:Man, security services should employ you for consulting.Texaggie7nine said:
Sure, bad things can happen but it's much more likely to happen away from downtown, especially in southern Houston. We stay at hotels downtown many times a year and walk pretty much everywhere throughout the night even when going to bars. I feel much more need to be armed when going to the strip center near our home in Spring than I ever do downtown.
In the real world, in the last 48 hours worth of reporting there were 4 assaults, 2 reports of vandalism, 1 robbery and 7 thefts in the "Downtown" area.
And that's just what was reported.
So as far as any of those that a normal person walking down a street downtown would be any better off being armed, probably 0 but MAYBE the robbery, which goes on far more in other parts of town.
7nine
schmendeler said:
And yet tons of people think that that makes sense with guns. And here we are.
But what you said doesn't make any sense at all.
Ok. I bet you complain that other people like beans in their chili don't you? Why do you care that I take measures you don't to ensure my pregnant wife and I aren't victimized?Texaggie7nine said:Oh no vandalism!!! Assaults!!! Which the majority of those downtown are going to be bums getting in to fights and bar fights. Theft, means when you weren't looking.DiskoTroop said:Man, security services should employ you for consulting.Texaggie7nine said:
Sure, bad things can happen but it's much more likely to happen away from downtown, especially in southern Houston. We stay at hotels downtown many times a year and walk pretty much everywhere throughout the night even when going to bars. I feel much more need to be armed when going to the strip center near our home in Spring than I ever do downtown.
In the real world, in the last 48 hours worth of reporting there were 4 assaults, 2 reports of vandalism, 1 robbery and 7 thefts in the "Downtown" area.
And that's just what was reported.
So as far as any of those that a normal person walking down a street downtown would be any better off being armed, probably 0 but MAYBE the robbery, which goes on far more in other parts of town.
Would you rather pay the cost of an unarmed populous?schmendeler said:
Meanwhile everyone else has to pay the societal cost for a heavily armed populous.
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Because there are people that carry, and you would never know because they don't say anything about it. Then there are people that like to make sure everyone knows they carry. Kind of like there are people who run marathons that you wouldn't really know when you first meet them, and then there are the ones that make sure they have the decimal number stickers on their car.
I don't care that people carry.
I don't care that people carry.
7nine
This internet argument is officially over as a reference to hitler/nazis/holocaust has been introduced.
Disko, please go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. You lost.
Also, since you like statistics, are firearms in the home more likely to accidentally kill a kid or an intruder? I have guns too, just don't take them to Maroon 5 concerts nor to bars downtown.
Disko, please go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. You lost.
Also, since you like statistics, are firearms in the home more likely to accidentally kill a kid or an intruder? I have guns too, just don't take them to Maroon 5 concerts nor to bars downtown.
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Hahaha, can I take my carry gun to Jail?drumboy said:
This internet argument is officially over as a reference to hitler/nazis/holocaust has been introduced.
Disko, please go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. You lost.
Also, since you like statistics, are firearms in the home more likely to accidentally kill a kid or an intruder? I have guns too, just don't take them to Maroon 5 concerts nor to bars downtown.
No, firearms are 100% not likely to accidentally kill a kid. An intruder is 100% more likely. Bad parents might make a situation wherein a kid might accidentally hurt themselves or another with an unsecured firearm but the gun isn't to blame.
With that said, that same kid is many many times more likely to drown in the swimming pool than injure themselves with an improperly secured firearm. And to Schmendeler's point, we have insurance that reflects that risk. I don't disagree with that.
Go shoot your pool and don't stop til it goes CLICKDiskoTroop said:Hahaha, can I take my carry gun to Jail?drumboy said:
This internet argument is officially over as a reference to hitler/nazis/holocaust has been introduced.
Disko, please go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. You lost.
Also, since you like statistics, are firearms in the home more likely to accidentally kill a kid or an intruder? I have guns too, just don't take them to Maroon 5 concerts nor to bars downtown.
No, firearms are 100% not likely to accidentally kill a kid. An intruder is 100% more likely. Bad parents might make a situation wherein a kid might accidentally hurt themselves or another with an unsecured firearm but the gun isn't to blame.
With that said, that same kid is many many times more likely to drown in the swimming pool than injure themselves with an improperly secured firearm.
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drumboy said:Go shoot your pool and don't stop til it goes CLICKDiskoTroop said:Hahaha, can I take my carry gun to Jail?drumboy said:
This internet argument is officially over as a reference to hitler/nazis/holocaust has been introduced.
Disko, please go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. You lost.
Also, since you like statistics, are firearms in the home more likely to accidentally kill a kid or an intruder? I have guns too, just don't take them to Maroon 5 concerts nor to bars downtown.
No, firearms are 100% not likely to accidentally kill a kid. An intruder is 100% more likely. Bad parents might make a situation wherein a kid might accidentally hurt themselves or another with an unsecured firearm but the gun isn't to blame.
With that said, that same kid is many many times more likely to drown in the swimming pool than injure themselves with an improperly secured firearm.
Is everyone paying attention? This is how my argue on the internet. Please take lessons from Mr. Drumboy.
Are you presuming to know how I identify?!DiskoTroop said:drumboy said:Go shoot your pool and don't stop til it goes CLICKDiskoTroop said:Hahaha, can I take my carry gun to Jail?drumboy said:
This internet argument is officially over as a reference to hitler/nazis/holocaust has been introduced.
Disko, please go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. You lost.
Also, since you like statistics, are firearms in the home more likely to accidentally kill a kid or an intruder? I have guns too, just don't take them to Maroon 5 concerts nor to bars downtown.
No, firearms are 100% not likely to accidentally kill a kid. An intruder is 100% more likely. Bad parents might make a situation wherein a kid might accidentally hurt themselves or another with an unsecured firearm but the gun isn't to blame.
With that said, that same kid is many many times more likely to drown in the swimming pool than injure themselves with an improperly secured firearm.
Is everyone paying attention? This is how my argue on the internet. Please take lessons from Mr. Drumboy.
I actually thought of this thread walking from a parking spot on Texas east of Fannin where it's sketch to the Saucer and then back to the car from Bad News Bar every time someone was passing me. Especially the dreaded folks. Next time I'll grab the 50 cal when I get my wallet, keys, and phone.
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