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Surely that reddit user is going to update his post with the actual outcomes. Surely.

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I'm going to give it another week and ask for an update come next Monday when it should be 16k and it's only 3-3.5k.

Only two weeks until we shut down schools across Texas based on their predictions too.

FBISD sitting at 0.4% of the district with confirmed positive cases (309 kids, 55 staff)

The end is near!

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What school has the policy:

If a parent does not wear a mask to pick kid up at a party, the kids can't go to school

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The parents are all-hands-on-deck to keep our kids in school, so if that means they wear masks inside at a birthday party, that's not that big of a deal. We don't want to be the cause of shutting down class for these kids. Yes, masks don't make much of a difference in prevention, but make a huge difference under the policy whether a kid has to stay home.

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I was talking about the kids. If one of them (or their parent, sib) were to test positive for COVID, under the policy because the kids wore mask at the party, the others would not be required to stay home.

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I'm not here to debate, however you don't need to tell the government what people were wearing at a child's birthday party.

If a parent pops+ this Wednesday, the government is going to come to you and ask if you were wearing a mask while with friends Saturday afternoon?

Bruh.

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Two of the kids at the party have teachers for moms. They would definitely get asked, and no need to make things difficult for them.

It's a private school, so the government isn't asking anything. They've relaxed most restrictions, as well as contact tracing / quarantine guidelines. But not everything. If the kids at the party and parents hanging out were not masked and someone popped, we probably would meet the "close contact" criteria. So why chance it.

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I honestly some there do pop positive so the numbskulls can see a mask is about as effective at stopping a respiratory virus as pants are at stopping a fart.

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And this article seems relevant. I had typed out but erased a comment in that last post wondering how many people were in the hospital with/for covid. It's not a perfect study and it isn't peer reviewed yet ( sorry zobel), but I think that it kind of echoes what a lot of people were thinking. There are 2 other studies mentioned that have similar results.

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The study found that from March 2020 through early January 2021before vaccination was widespread, and before the Delta variant had arrivedthe proportion of patients with mild or asymptomatic disease was 36 percent. From mid-January through the end of June 2021, however, that number rose to 48 percent. In other words, the study suggests that roughly half of all the hospitalized patients showing up on COVID-data dashboards in 2021 may have been admitted for another reason entirely, or had only a mild presentation of disease.

This increase was even bigger for vaccinated hospital patients, of whom 57 percent had mild or asymptomatic disease. But unvaccinated patients have also been showing up with less severe symptoms, on average, than earlier in the pandemic: The study found that 45 percent of their cases were mild or asymptomatic since January 21.

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this study suggests that COVID hospitalization tallies can't be taken as a simple measure of the prevalence of severe or even moderate disease, because they might inflate the true numbers by a factor of two. "As we look to shift from cases to hospitalizations as a metric to drive policy and assess level of risk to a community or state or country," Doron told me, referring to decisions about school closures, business restrictions, mask requirements, and so on, "we should refine the definition of hospitalization. Those patients who are there with rather than from COVID don't belong in the metric."

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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

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I find that pretty fascinating.

And the cynic in me reads that and thinks, "Hmm, seems like they're intentionally inflating the number of hospitalization, and if they're intentionally misrepresenting the hospitalization numbers they're probably misrepresenting the number of deaths attributable to covid too. Why would they do such a thing? To maximize the fear porn and to exert more control over us all."

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This is from June 2020

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/texas-government-counting-every-covid-positive-hospital-case

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Lindsey Rosales, a spokeswoman for the Texas Department of State Health Services, confirmed to Just the News this week that the state is categorizing every inpatient in the state with a positive COVID-19 test as a COVID-19 hospitalization.

"The number of hospitalized patients includes patients with a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19 even if the person is admitted to the hospital for a different reason," Rosales said.

Asked if inpatients in the state are tested for COVID-19 whenever they arrive for treatment, Rosales said, "Hospitals set their own protocols for determining when and if to test patients for COVID-19."

She said the state does not keep track of the patients hospitalized with the coronavirus versus those hospitalized specifically because of it.

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What school has the policy:

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The parents are all-hands-on-deck to keep our kids in school, so if that means they wear masks inside at a birthday party, that's not that big of a deal. We don't want to be the cause of shutting down class for these kids. Yes, masks don't make much of a difference in prevention, but make a huge difference under the policy whether a kid has to stay home.

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I was talking about the kids. If one of them (or their parent, sib) were to test positive for COVID, under the policy because the kids wore mask at the party, the others would not be required to stay home.

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I'm not here to debate, however you don't need to tell the government what people were wearing at a child's birthday party.

If a parent pops+ this Wednesday, the government is going to come to you and ask if you were wearing a mask while with friends Saturday afternoon?

Bruh.

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Two of the kids at the party have teachers for moms. They would definitely get asked, and no need to make things difficult for them.

It's a private school, so the government isn't asking anything. They've relaxed most restrictions, as well as contact tracing / quarantine guidelines. But not everything. If the kids at the party and parents hanging out were not masked and someone popped, we probably would meet the "close contact" criteria. So why chance it.

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I honestly some there do pop positive so the numbskulls can see a mask is about as effective at stopping a respiratory virus as pants are at stopping a fart.

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I think you meant to add a "hope" in there, and I get your deciphered point -- masking is all theater at this point. But it would allow the school to avoid that obvious point and look to another source, sparing quarantines or testing for the kids at the party. They may know full well that the masks made no difference, but they have an out they will use.

Yes, I see I did not add "hope" in there.

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Centralizing control of distribution may not equal hoarding necessarily, but I'm again way short on benefit of the doubt to trust these people in asserting control over any part of this. I don't think they're preferentially handing them out, I think they're as likely to screw it up in blue states in the fall as they are the red ones that currently need it. I object to them having more control over anything on well supported principle.

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That didn't take long...







This could all be made up, of course...

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Revisiting predictions from the "experts" at t.u.

Anyone care to offer a guess as to whether or not the Chronicle will do a followup piece?

How's that prediction working out for you @HoustonChron @LinaHidalgoTX @lisagray_HouTX? Only off by 300%. So close! But's let keep believing these guys because they are so dang accurate! pic.twitter.com/XtKqe1NnV1

— therealarod1984 (@therealarod1984) September 7, 2021

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Wonder if it's the same moron making these predictions on Reddit for Cy fair ISD?

https://www.reddit.com/r/CypressTX/comments/pjv27t/cyfair_isd_1199_covid_cases_as_of_962021/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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I mean, how can you argue with that math!

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I like how they say it's probably not realistic but post the garbage anyway.

In another thread about Cy fair some idiot claimed his dad works for Cy fair ISD and in week 1 30% of students had COVID currently

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I just cannot wrap my head around the mindset which is outright hoping for the worst. The doom & gloom and total stupidity is maddening.

Humble ISD is smaller than Cy-Fair but out of 51,783 students, faculty, and staff there have been 3,025 positive covid tests since school teachers reported back on 8/2 and students started class on 8/10. That's 5.8%. However, the number of active cases have cratered- the active cases are approximately half what they were last Wednesday. There's presently 362 active cases among students and 76 among faculty & staff for 0.78% and 1.37% respectively. And as far as I can find, there has been zero hospitalizations among students. Not sure about faculty & staff.

Oh, and no masks required for anybody.

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Lets see how Mr. Scaredy-cat on Reddits prediction for Cy Fair ISD is coming in

9/13/2021 4,551 (Real number-2,016)
9/20/2021 16,522
9/27/2021 61,329
10/04/2021 227,658

They actually had less pop positive in week 3 than week 2.

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I'm glad you posted that because I couldn't find my post on this in the past regarding Humble ISD and cratering cases.

As of this morning's update:
46,216 students on campus; 185 active cases; 0.40% active case %
5,567 faculty & staff; 34 active cases; 0.61% active case %

The total is 0.42%

So about that exponential growth...

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I guess that "growth" is a downward trend...

...as of today, Humble ISD is at 0.39% for active student cases and 0.47% for active staff cases. Down to 0.40% from 0.42% yesterday.

Meanwhile:
Houston ISD (mask mandate) = .52 % active case rate
Aldine (mask mandate): .42% active case rate
Spring (mask mandate): .83% active case rate
Humble ISD (no mask mandate) = .38 % active case rate (students only)

Katy ISD students are currently at .83% or 756 cases out of 91,084 students with no mask mandate.

Tomball is at 1.45% for students and 0.54% for staff, no mask mandate.

Proud of Katy. The children, who are largely unaffected, should catch this, develop immunities, and move on. They will probably catch this as it mutates several times in their lifetimes. It will be much like a common cold to them.

See? Hanlon's Razor. Bureaucratic ineptitude more sense than the Biden administration is intentionally withholding treatments from red states to punish them for their politics / antivax stance.

There's two pieces of information missing from that timeline.

The first is how many doses per week was Florida getting before August 29? They say they agreed to switch in order to get 50,000. Are they getting more or less now than they were before?

The second is how many are available in total. Is there a shortage of supply from the manufacturer? Is it even possible for Florida to get the 72,000 they need considering how many are also needed in Texas, etc?

I see references to cut supply but no numbers to back it up. Bureaucratic incompetence was my expectation, and should be everyone else's, including those that make the choice to centralize control.

It looks like there just isn't enough to go around.

It also seems like some states have ordered a lot (Mississippi has "enough on hand") and others don't have enough. To date 2.17 million have been shipped and 938,000 have been used.

Of the 2.17 million shipped, 1.5 million were previously bought by the Federal government. The Feds purchased an additional 1.4 million doses for $2.9 billion, which will start being delivered this week.
This isn't a clear case of much of anything, other than it is pretty clear that some places don't have enough, and 70% of the stuff shipped so far has come through the Federal government.

They have 150,000 doses per week available (up from 100,000). Does it seem right that Florida should get half of those? It looks like it is all being paid for by the Feds anyway.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/09/10/nation-short-on-supply-of-key-covid-treatment-desperate-states-told-to-reduce-requests/?sh=179d00ca6737

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/biden-administration-monoclonal-antibody-covid/67-71f03587-73e8-481e-8c33-15b583f79105

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/14/monoclonal-antibodies-shortage/

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/14/biden-covid-antibody-treatments-511825

Regarding schools and the positivity rates vis a vis mask policies.

I know Humble ISD required masks last year until April (might have been May, I forget) and I seem to recall something about a positivity threshold of 5% for keeping schools open. If it was above that they'd have to go remote. They adjusted it later in the year to maybe 10% I believe.

Anybody else remember these metrics in schools? Or am I getting old and the CTE causing me to mis-remember these things?

Cy-Fair ISD
2020 Total Enrollment - 115,070

1,111 student active cases as of 9/16
0.96%

2,053 student cases since 8/23
1.7%

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Cy-Fair ISD
2020 Total Enrollment - 115,070

1,111 student active cases as of 9/16
0.96%

2,053 student cases since 8/23
1.7%

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Does it seem right that Florida should get half of those?

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Yes, it does.

You send treatment to the sick people, not withhold treatment because they don't hold the approved government opinion.

Humble ISD is the best thus far with COVID out of my immediate friends and family.


At one point during the first two weeks of school we were given the CV19 letter for someone in daughters 1st grade class 4 separate times ... and the teacher was out as well.


Even sent us a letter stating you are not required to get tested or stay home. Just use your own judgement. 25% of the class actively positive and no drama!

Been very happy with the way it's been handled for our kids in Humble ISD for sure.

Ahh BP just announced that they will require you declare your vacc status. If you do then you can have a sticker on your badge affirming your right to basic freedoms. If you do not you will be required to mask up at all times, and if the prez mandate goes through, be tested weekly.

Love the badge idea so that those in charge can identify who is allowed freedoms. Everything will probably work out fine this time.

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Ahh BP just announced that they will require you declare your vacc status. If you do then you can have a sticker on your badge affirming your right to basic freedoms. If you do not you will be required to mask up at all times, and if the prez mandate goes through, be tested weekly.

Love the badge idea so that those in charge can identify who is allowed freedoms. Everything will probably work out fine this time.

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Will it be a gold star?

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Does it seem right that Florida should get half of those?

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Yes, it does.

You send treatment to the sick people, not withhold treatment because they don't hold the approved government opinion.

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It looks like there isn't enough to treat everyone. Everything being sent is being used, so all treatments are going to sick people. Why should Florida sick people get treated before Louisiana sick people?

By the website information they're allocating the treatment based on infection rate - the place with the most sick people gets the most. Florida is getting the most from everyone. Should they also get so much that Texas, or Alabama, or Louisiana gets none?

Do you have any evidence that there's treatment being withheld? This is the whole point I'm making. The accusation doesn't match the information.

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Ahh BP just announced that they will require you declare your vacc status. If you do then you can have a sticker on your badge affirming your right to basic freedoms. If you do not you will be required to mask up at all times, and if the prez mandate goes through, be tested weekly.

Love the badge idea so that those in charge can identify who is allowed freedoms. Everything will probably work out fine this time.

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After a week of crickets, my company just announced something similar. We have to upload our vaccine cards within the next month, and there will be special badges for those who are vaccinated.

The way the email was written makes it sound like the new badges are optional. If they are, I will not be getting one (even though I am vaccinated). They are presenting it as a way that we can determine who we need to "socially distance" from. No thanks - I'll just socially distance from everyone.

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Ahh BP just announced that they will require you declare your vacc status. If you do then you can have a sticker on your badge affirming your right to basic freedoms. If you do not you will be required to mask up at all times, and if the prez mandate goes through, be tested weekly.

Love the badge idea so that those in charge can identify who is allowed freedoms. Everything will probably work out fine this time.

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After a week of crickets, my company just announced something similar. We have to upload our vaccine cards within the next month, and there will be special badges for those who are vaccinated.

The way the email was written makes it sound like the new badges are optional. If they are, I will not be getting one (even though I am vaccinated). They are presenting it as a way that we can determine who we need to "socially distance" from. No thanks - I'll just socially distance from everyone.

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Wow. Wear your gold star, filthy unvaccinated swine.

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Ahh BP just announced that they will require you declare your vacc status. If you do then you can have a sticker on your badge affirming your right to basic freedoms. If you do not you will be required to mask up at all times, and if the prez mandate goes through, be tested weekly.

Love the badge idea so that those in charge can identify who is allowed freedoms. Everything will probably work out fine this time.

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Should put one of these on the badge as well.

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It looks like there isn't enough to treat everyone. Everything being sent is being used, so all treatments are going to sick people. Why should Florida sick people get treated before Louisiana sick people?

By the website information they're allocating the treatment based on infection rate - the place with the most sick people gets the most. Florida is getting the most from everyone. Should they also get so much that Texas, or Alabama, or Louisiana gets none?

Do you have any evidence that there's treatment being withheld? This is the whole point I'm making. The accusation doesn't match the information.

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I have made zero accusations that treatment was being withheld. I merely addressed your question.

The problem is the gov't creating a supply shortage. Get the ****ing gov't out of the way and let prices and manufacturing meet markets demand.

You literally said "You send treatment to the sick people, not withhold treatment because they don't hold the approved government opinion." ????

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The problem is the gov't creating a supply shortage. Get the ****ing gov't out of the way and let prices and manufacturing meet markets demand.

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The government is the one buying all of it. How do you know the government is creating a supply shortage?

For what its worth I completely agree with you. But our healthcare industry said goodbye to markets and pricing a long freaking time ago. These antibody treatments are $2-5k per pop. Nobody is going to pay for that out of pocket.

Seriously @PressSec? “That is not accurate”?

Then explain why our supply has been cut from 72,000 to 30,950 treatments per week.

I’ll wait. But Floridians who have COVID can’t. https://t.co/H5a9e4r3uc

— Christina Pushaw (@ChristinaPushaw) September 16, 2021

This is the feds being dumb and erroneously assuming demand is uniform from state to state.

And conveniently it punishes political opponents.

And there's such a shortage DeSantis is going to just buy them directly from GSK.

This is what being on the ball looks like.https://t.co/8HczwvblqM

— Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) September 16, 2021

The Biden regime, without notice of any changes, only sent half of Florida's requested monoclonal antibodies (most proven COVID treatment that exists) to the state.

Luckily, we have a great Gov in DeSantis, who quickly secured state funds to get new shipments ASAP.

Leadership.

— Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.com (@JordanSchachtel) September 16, 2021

As DeSantis stated earlier, over half of those on antibody treatments have been dosed with mRNA shots. It's not about shots, as Psaki falsely suggested. Florida is over national avg. This is the most proven treatment for infected individuals. Difference btwn life & death for some

— Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.substack.com (@JordanSchachtel) September 16, 2021

They're not. The distribution is in order of case rate (cases per capita).

I would like to know if Florida ever had or gave out 70,000 per week. I can't find anywhere that lists the number they gave last week, for example.

This article said as of September 2 they had done "over 40,000" so it doesn't seem like they're doing anything like 70,000 per week.

So Zobel is it some conspiracy that DeSantis is pushing or is it a conspiracy to assume that DeSantis is pushing a conspiracy. Just want to see which way your "unbiased" logic view breaks. Im going to guess it is DeSantis is pushing a conspiracy.

In this video DeSantis says the federal government has bought all the Regeneron. So there is a shortage, and its being paid for by the Feds.

He's buying a different drug from a different supplier. That's good.

Everything is so politicized basically nothing is trustworthy.

No shortage.

The only shortage is the one created by the feds.