Houston
Sponsored by

Finna storm

58,501 Views | 376 Replies | Last: 5 yr ago by P.H. Dexippus
Broba Fett
How long do you want to ignore this user?
redag06 said:

chimpanzee said:

IrishTxAggie said:

redag06 said:

Live in kingwood and don't have flood insurance. But I'm at the top of a hill and have gravity working for me.
Yeah, but you live in Kingwood...
I'm beginning to see the entire Houston area as temporary swamp islands.

Someday people will look back in the history books at Houston and wonder what the hell people were thinking settling in a swamp.


schmellba99
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
aTm2004 said:

redag06 said:

Live in kingwood and don't have flood insurance. But I'm at the top of a hill and have gravity working for me.
I'm in Kingwood and at the top of a hill as well, and not in a flood zone, but I have it. $450 is not much for a peace of mind. Our street never looked worse than a typical afternoon shower during all of this.
Yep. Average cost of a flood remediation, if memory serves from the Harvey threads, is about $30k. At $500/year, you can go 60 years of paying flood insurance before you even hit the break even point on "wasting" the money. And that's oversimplifying it.

Basically, you are an idiot if you are within 20 miles of any river, creek, bayou, bay, lake, reservoir, storm sewer or ditch and don't have it because it's just smart to do so.
Ferris Wheel Allstar
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
94chem said:

LondonAg89 said:

Our office has a delayed 10 am opening. It may go later.

Kingwood folks - how's kingwood doing? I'm traveling for business and haven't see. The news.
Here's what happened in Elm Grove, and why it happened:

Elm Grove Flooding
Here's what happened: that new construction covered a major are that used to be drainage ditches and the water needed somewhere to go, the lowest area ie the streets of Elm Grove. This isnt rocket science.
aTm2004
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Yep. My mom and step-dad got flooded during Harvey and he had lived in that house for 30 years and always had flood insurance, even though he never flooded. During Harvey, they got about 6" of water.
W
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
clear cutting is the worst
Ducks4brkfast
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
My inlaws hadn't flooded since their house was built in the 60's.

They had 60" of water for about 2 weeks during Harvey.
MAS444
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
My house has never flooded so flood insurance is a waste of money...said no one ever who ultimately flooded.
Cynic
How long do you want to ignore this user?
So was there anything more than flash flooding last night?
Boo Weekley
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ducks4brkfast said:

My inlaws hadn't flooded since their house was built in the 60's.

They had 60" of water for about 2 weeks during Harvey.
Damn. My parents got lucky and sold their house down at the end of Bramblewood about a year before the storm. If I remember correctly from a photo someone showed me, the water was almost to the top of the stop sign and the home has since been torn down and rebuilt. I can't imagine the feeling of thinking you made it through the storm high and dry only to see the floodwaters rise rapidly and severely flood the whole neighborhood all while the weather is pretty pleasant in the aftermath.
aTm2004
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Not to my knowledge. Just a lot of rain in a short amount of time, so the typical streets flooding that you'd expect around Houston. I'm working from the house today and took a drive around Kingwood this morning to see how things were and many of the drainage ditches are almost to normal levels. The one flowing behind Town Center that you cross on Kingwood Drive is flowing pretty good, but that's not unusual when we get a good rain.
94chem
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

94chem said:

LondonAg89 said:

Our office has a delayed 10 am opening. It may go later.

Kingwood folks - how's kingwood doing? I'm traveling for business and haven't see. The news.
Here's what happened in Elm Grove, and why it happened:

Elm Grove Flooding
Here's what happened: that new construction covered a major are that used to be drainage ditches and the water needed somewhere to go, the lowest area ie the streets of Elm Grove. This isnt rocket science.
Yep. The bayou overflowed, but that was handled by the street drains. This was water that never even made it to the bayou, just plain runoff. I saw another video that claims the builder filled in the existing bayou and diverted it.

I was apparently wrong earlier about Elm Grove. I assumed it had been bayou flooding of homes that had been placed in the 100 year zone after Allison. Looks like it was mostly homes near this clear cut area.
Boo Weekley
How long do you want to ignore this user?
MAS444 said:

My house has never flooded so flood insurance is a waste of money...said no one ever who ultimately flooded.
You guys have scared me into looking into flood insurance, but it seems like there are some homes in the town, where if they flood, we are all royally f***ed and the city would never be even close to the same again. If certain areas of the heights or surrounding areas that have never come close to flooding, flood, that means much of the city was wiped out, time for everyone to pack up and leave, right?

I would think the type of flood to flood a home that barely got water in the yard during the worst storms to ever hit Houston would wipe out the city. I guess it would still be good to have flood insurance though so you could rebuild in a different city.
IrishTxAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Boo Weekley said:

MAS444 said:

My house has never flooded so flood insurance is a waste of money...said no one ever who ultimately flooded.
You guys have scared me into looking into flood insurance, but it seems like there are some homes in the town, where if they flood, we are all royally f***ed and the city would never be even close to the same again. If certain areas of the heights or surrounding areas that have never come close to flooding, flood, good bye Houston, time for everyone to pack up and leave, right?
Then I'd finally be able to afford something in the Heights!
BohunkAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Good luck with all the a-hole contractors that will be flooding the area.
Your Friend
How long do you want to ignore this user?
https://abc13.com/tires-stolen-from-flooded-vehicles-abandoned-during-storm/5294135/

Very houston
94chem
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aTm2004 said:

Yep. My mom and step-dad got flooded during Harvey and he had lived in that house for 30 years and always had flood insurance, even though he never flooded. During Harvey, they got about 6" of water.
Flood insurance helps, especially when you consider what it DOESN'T cover. We had 13 months of rent on top of the home repairs. The cost of restoring and gutting the home is only part of the expenses.
aTm2004
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Boo Weekley said:

MAS444 said:

My house has never flooded so flood insurance is a waste of money...said no one ever who ultimately flooded.
You guys have scared me into looking into flood insurance, but it seems like there are some homes in the town, where if they flood, we are all royally f***ed and the city would never be even close to the same again. If certain areas of the heights or surrounding areas that have never come close to flooding, flood, that means much of the city was wiped out, time for everyone to pack up and leave, right?

I would think the type of flood to flood a home that barely got water in the yard during the worst storms to ever hit Houston would wipe out the city. I guess it would still be good to have flood insurance though so you could rebuild in a different city.
Didn't a lot of houses in Bellaire and Braeswood flood during Harvey? Looking at new builds in the area, they're all built up.
IrishTxAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Your Friend said:

https://abc13.com/tires-stolen-from-flooded-vehicles-abandoned-during-storm/5294135/

Very houston
THIS IS SOOOOO HOUSTON!!
aTm2004
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Your Friend said:

https://abc13.com/tires-stolen-from-flooded-vehicles-abandoned-during-storm/5294135/

Very houston

IrishTxAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
aTm2004 said:

Boo Weekley said:

MAS444 said:

My house has never flooded so flood insurance is a waste of money...said no one ever who ultimately flooded.
You guys have scared me into looking into flood insurance, but it seems like there are some homes in the town, where if they flood, we are all royally f***ed and the city would never be even close to the same again. If certain areas of the heights or surrounding areas that have never come close to flooding, flood, that means much of the city was wiped out, time for everyone to pack up and leave, right?

I would think the type of flood to flood a home that barely got water in the yard during the worst storms to ever hit Houston would wipe out the city. I guess it would still be good to have flood insurance though so you could rebuild in a different city.
Didn't a lot of houses in Bellaire and Braeswood flood during Harvey? Looking at new builds in the area, they're all built up.
Bellaire and Braeswood did. I flew to Brazil the night before Harvey landed and when I came back all I saw was dry wall and furniture lining the streets. Still a few "houses" for sale that were Harvey flooded
drmwvr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
aggiebq03+ said:

redag06 said:

Live in kingwood and don't have flood insurance. But I'm at the top of a hill and have gravity working for me.

Does your house not have any water pipes in it?
Homeowner's insurance covers this
YellAg2004
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Boo Weekley said:

MAS444 said:

My house has never flooded so flood insurance is a waste of money...said no one ever who ultimately flooded.
You guys have scared me into looking into flood insurance, but it seems like there are some homes in the town, where if they flood, we are all royally f***ed and the city would never be even close to the same again. If certain areas of the heights or surrounding areas that have never come close to flooding, flood, that means much of the city was wiped out, time for everyone to pack up and leave, right?

I would think the type of flood to flood a home that barely got water in the yard during the worst storms to ever hit Houston would wipe out the city. I guess it would still be good to have flood insurance though so you could rebuild in a different city.
That's an accurate statement if you are only considering widespread, hurricane/tropical storm-induced flooding (i.e. Allison, Harvey, etc.).

As others have pointed out, something as simple as a damaged/collapsed storm sewer pipe or blocked inlet could cause a street to flood that has never ever flooded. In that instance, without flood insurance you'd be screwed as rising water isn't covered by your homeowner's policy.
K Bo
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
A friend of mine who lives in Spring Branch West had his [stock] wheels and tires off his 2018 GMC Sierra stolen out of his driveway last night. I got a text this morning, with a picture of his truck on blocks, that read "the hail really hammered my truck last night". Fckers.
Diggity
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
*******s did that to me in Midtown back in the day. Came out Thanksgiving morning to find my car on blocks.
aggiebq03+
How long do you want to ignore this user?
redag06 said:

That is covered by homeowners insurance.

Burst pipe is covered. But I was trying to confirm you do have running water in your house, which means you have sewer. Backed up sewer is not covered.

Not having flood insurance is a stupid decision. Doesn't matter where you live.
Ferris Wheel Allstar
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
94chem said:

Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

94chem said:

LondonAg89 said:

Our office has a delayed 10 am opening. It may go later.

Kingwood folks - how's kingwood doing? I'm traveling for business and haven't see. The news.
Here's what happened in Elm Grove, and why it happened:

Elm Grove Flooding
Here's what happened: that new construction covered a major are that used to be drainage ditches and the water needed somewhere to go, the lowest area ie the streets of Elm Grove. This isnt rocket science.
Yep. The bayou overflowed, but that was handled by the street drains. This was water that never even made it to the bayou, just plain runoff. I saw another video that claims the builder filled in the existing bayou and diverted it.

I was apparently wrong earlier about Elm Grove. I assumed it had been bayou flooding of homes that had been placed in the 100 year zone after Allison. Looks like it was mostly homes near this clear cut area.
TX04Aggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ugh I hate clear cutting. Im sure it is cheaper, but come on be creative and keep the trees developers!
(I an a native East Texan..)
TulaneAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Boo, I kinda had a similar macro-view pre-Harvey but learned some very hard lessons in 2017:

  • It doesn't matter if the rest of the city is fine or destroyed during the next event. The ' destroyed city' doesn't have a knight on a white horse to help you in this time of need. You are totally on your own to solve this problem. You will never see a dime of JJ Watt's $49M raised. My assumption is, like me, you are the wrong color and you are of the wrong income bracket to see any real help. And if you did get a bit of help out of city/feds/charity..it is so far down the road it is useless to you at the moment when you need to make critical financial & life decisions. Your mortgage company expects YOU to pay them whether the house is worth nothing or not. Your contractor expects YOU to pay him to fix your house NOW, not when your JJ Watt charity application is finally accepted. Directv, ADT, your water-delivery company...they all expect to get paid for their equipment, their contracts, etc. and none of them really care why or what happened.
  • What yesterday showed me is these storms are so intensely-localized, there are people that flooded yesterday that didn't come close to flooding during Harvey. The idea that "I didn't flood during Harvey so I'm good for the next 500 years" is a fairy tale that only helps you sleep better at night. Mother Nature will drop a sh*tload of rain wherever she damn well pleases and there's no amount of engineering, planning, etc. that can cover the complex matrix of direct and indirect variables to protect every house every time.
  • Beyond the storm event, there are decisions made by bureaucrats and engineers that you have no control over. On Monday morning after Harvey, I had 2-3" of water in my curb on my street. We made it...or so we thought. On Tuesday morning my house was ankle-deep and by Noon it was 30" deep. All because the engineers and politicians made decisions on dams and outflows to flood me vs. 3 or 4 other possible groups. Did they ask us? No. Did they help me re-build? No. Did the people they chose not to flood pitch in? No.

And to get to my point...flood insurance will not help you solve any of this in the heat of the moment, but for ~$500/yr you can have a little comfort knowing you've got a couple hundred grand coming to you to help you make better, faster, more accurate decisions during a very chaotic time in your life.
Post removed:
by user
chimpanzee
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Marv C. World said:

chimpanzee said:

IrishTxAggie said:

redag06 said:

Live in kingwood and don't have flood insurance. But I'm at the top of a hill and have gravity working for me.
Yeah, but you live in Kingwood...
I'm beginning to see the entire Houston area as temporary swamp islands.


Well that is what it was before anything was built.
Indeed.
ChipFTAC01
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Where on Bramble wood?
ilikeit
How long do you want to ignore this user?
ilikeit
How long do you want to ignore this user?
aggiebq03+ said:

redag06 said:

That is covered by homeowners insurance.

Burst pipe is covered. But I was trying to confirm you do have running water in your house, which means you have sewer. Backed up sewer is not covered.

Not having flood insurance is a stupid decision. Doesn't matter where you live.
Sewer back up can be covered by adding an endorsement to the policy
Hub `93
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TX04Aggie said:

Ugh I hate clear cutting. Im sure it is cheaper, but come on be creative and keep the trees developers!
(I an a native East Texan..)
Amen. (Big Thicket native here.)
BowSowy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Boo Weekley said:

MAS444 said:

My house has never flooded so flood insurance is a waste of money...said no one ever who ultimately flooded.
You guys have scared me into looking into flood insurance, but it seems like there are some homes in the town, where if they flood, we are all royally f***ed and the city would never be even close to the same again. If certain areas of the heights or surrounding areas that have never come close to flooding, flood, that means much of the city was wiped out, time for everyone to pack up and leave, right?

I would think the type of flood to flood a home that barely got water in the yard during the worst storms to ever hit Houston would wipe out the city. I guess it would still be good to have flood insurance though so you could rebuild in a different city.
It's also dependent upon where the rain is focused. My brother lived in OF during Harvey, right off of TC Jester maybe 100 yards from the bayou. He didn't end up flooding mostly because OF got pretty lucky with breaks in the rain. Had that storm been different and concentrated more on that area, he definitely would've flooded.

That said, you're right that there are certain spots in town that would only flood if everything else around them was absolutely ****ed.
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.