I actually used to enjoy watching KHOU in the morning while getting ready for work, but the 15 minutes between when i get out of the shower and when I leave is filled with commercials for furniture, cars, and home improvement. Many of them run the same commercial twice in the same break. It's ridiculous.
Bad Behavior by ABC 13's Mia Shay
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Oh and wtf is up with the trend of reporting people's tweets/Facebook comments? If I wanted to read that tripe I'd go look at twitter.
rhoswen said:
Oh and wtf is up with the trend of reporting people's tweets/Facebook comments? If I wanted to read that tripe I'd go look at twitter.
No one cares about reading the social media comments. "This happened to my aunt!!". "Thank you for reporting this, Channel 13! The lines at Braydon's school are SO LONG!!".
What people care about is seeing THEIR social media comment OMG ON MY TV. So it's another way to get people to watch.....which leads to ratings....which leads to advertising airtime with a higher price tag.
03_Aggie said:agproducer said:
. Their jobs are to find the truth. That's what Miya was trying to do.
The local media is not out to "get" people for "ratings." Most journalists I worked with were out to get the true story, the great interviews and be fair.
And, I worked as a journalist for nearly 20 years.
Lol
You don't need to work in media for 20 years or even 20 seconds to understand how the typical media interview works.
It's almost always the Reporter asking some obviously inflammatory question, followed by someone with a real job answering with logic - which the Reporter completely ignores & follows up by rephrasing the same damn original question.
Perfect example a couple of weeks ago during the storm. Reporter was giddy about interviewing some Texas republican politician who had previously voted against federal assistance for disasters. Went like this:
Dopey Rabid Reporter: "After seeing the devastation to your own state, do you now regret voting against federal assistance for victims of these disasters?".
Politician: "No, I made it clear that I was all for federal support in those situations, but unfortunately that bill had a great deal of things attached to it that had nothing to do with the issue and which I did not support, such as {proceeded to rattle of at least half a dozen loony lib nonsense pork}".
DRR: "Isn't it true that the bill contained almost no pork and you voted against helping people?".
P: "Well, no, I just listed numerous examples of items attached to that bill that were completely unrelated & unnecessary".
DRR: "Now that you've seen the devastation to Houston - which is in your own state - don't you regret voting against a bill that would have helped them?"
And on & on.
I usually watch 13 since I know some of those guys. I can say that the folks I know around 13 don't have a lot of good things to say about Shay, she's not on the top of many Christmas card lists. I've had a few run-ins with her at some political stories and she is the very definition of arrogant "my %@#* don't stink " type and is not even remotely interested in the real story she's only looking for a " gotcha" piece. But she is kinda the exception locally especially for ch13.rhoswen said:
I actually used to enjoy watching KHOU in the morning while getting ready for work, but the 15 minutes between when i get out of the shower and when I leave is filled with commercials for furniture, cars, and home improvement. Many of them run the same commercial twice in the same break. It's ridiculous.
I can also tell you FOR A FACT that guys like Ted Oberg are NOT liberal hacks. Ted is a pretty solid conservative and a friend that really really works hard NOT to let his political leanings interfere with his work. His stuff is usually the best on local TV. Most of this has to do with just plain ole intelligence. Some newsguys have it BUT unfortunately TV news has become infested with semi-literate west coast airheads with unpronounceable " diverse" names and class A racks. THAT is where the ratings wars has taken TV news. It is a tribute that 13 keeps a pretty damn good yet " mature" reporters like Debra Wrigley while stations like 26 keep bringing us airheaded second runner ups from the Miss Ugaboogastan pagent.
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airheaded second runner ups from the Miss Ugaboogastan pagent.
I know you're not talking about the mother of my child, Kaitlin Monte.Quote:
stations like 26 keep bringing us airheaded second runner ups from the Miss Ugaboogastan pagent.
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airheaded second runner ups from the Miss Ugaboogastan pagent.
Damn OA76 that may be your best line on this site ever
It may have been true in the past, that journalism actually existed, but sometime in the past 10 years, "news" stations started to care more about being sensational and making money.BBRex said:
I worked in news (print) for 17 years, and I agree. I'd say there probably is some bias because most journalists have a more liberal world view, but there is no grand media conspiracy.
Who owns ABC?
Ch. 13 is an ABC affiliate.
Who owns ESPN? And ABC?
Yep.
Guess who ABC-13 sent out to manage Mya's f/u?
It's all about Mickey Mouse. Always follow the $$.
Thanks for the spin, agpro......
Ch. 13 is an ABC affiliate.
Who owns ESPN? And ABC?
Yep.
Guess who ABC-13 sent out to manage Mya's f/u?
It's all about Mickey Mouse. Always follow the $$.
Thanks for the spin, agpro......
ChiliBeans said:I know you're not talking about the mother of my child, Kaitlin Monte.Quote:
stations like 26 keep bringing us airheaded second runner ups from the Miss Ugaboogastan pagent.
Your child is Kaitlin. Noted, old fart. No more incestuous posts, please.
88jrt06 said:
Who owns ABC?
Ch. 13 is an ABC affiliate.
Who owns ESPN? And ABC?
Yep.
Guess who ABC-13 sent out to manage Mya's f/u?
It's all about Mickey Mouse. Always follow the $$.
Thanks for the spin, agpro......
I'm honestly confused about this post. Are you implying ABC had me try to spin this?
I haven't worked in TV for a year. I was just providing my opinion on the topic and professional insight.
The Mouse has no influence as to what local news stories stations cover, unless it's a branding thing like a donation drive or promoting a national story.
agproducer said:
The local media is not out to "get" people for "ratings." Most journalists I worked with were out to get the true story, the great interviews and be fair.
I respect you as a person and poster, but sorry this is laughable. The media is about ratings above all else at all levels, from local to national. I'll even go so far as to say they have blood on their hands, mostly at the national level.
Maybe so, but I'd imagine they were pretty exhausted from busting their ass for days on end to help complete strangers after traveling across the country (if they really are based in Portland) and sleeping in crap conditions. Then some complete hack of a reporter comes storming in basically accusing them of being white supremacists right off the bat. I'll cut them a little slack on this one. I'd probably be pretty p*ssed too. Especially knowing how the media operates when it comes to juicy race-based stories. The media (mostly at the national level) loves to pour fuel on the fire of race relations and act like only whites can be racist.RPM said:
Can he reign her in from terrible reporting and just make her be an annoying SAHM momtographer with a photo blog or something? She has been terrible for years... but that doesn't mean the dildo in the bucket hat wasn't an ass to her.
She is my least favorite ktrk reporter... really showed her ass during Ike. But that dude was a total tool to her.
The sad part is that we receive what we demand (I think that's an old Jack Johnson lyric). The media tends to appeal to the lowest common denominator who wants shock and awe and hype, rather than substance, objectivity and truth. If enough people decided they were sick of the crap reporting and just quit watching, as I did long ago...it would hit them in the pocketbook and they may decide that it's worth it to quit fabricating hype driven "news". Unfortunately I predict this will never happen and it is only going to get worse and worse.
Once the media was asked to leave, they should have packed up and left. I'm curious as to what legal ground they think they have by hanging out on what seemed like private property when asked to leave? I suppose the next step would have been to call law enforcement to escort them out?
The people helping with the construction work could have been more diplomatic, but I totally get it. If they had been grinding 6 days of demo and repair work, I have no doubt their tolerance for a baseless charge from a media member would be not well received.
After 5 straight days of demo work myself, I even found my temper short with a guy like Glenn Beck doing a Facebook live event. I recall texting my buddy that doesn't live in Texas that unless Beck was there to swing a hammer, he was another useless rubbernecking media member clogging up the roads for those of us trying to make difference in our community.
The way the media acted in this story is sadly just one data point on where we are at as a society. It seems nowadays people are more interested in either being victims, seeking out victims, or creating victims when none exist.
The people helping with the construction work could have been more diplomatic, but I totally get it. If they had been grinding 6 days of demo and repair work, I have no doubt their tolerance for a baseless charge from a media member would be not well received.
After 5 straight days of demo work myself, I even found my temper short with a guy like Glenn Beck doing a Facebook live event. I recall texting my buddy that doesn't live in Texas that unless Beck was there to swing a hammer, he was another useless rubbernecking media member clogging up the roads for those of us trying to make difference in our community.
The way the media acted in this story is sadly just one data point on where we are at as a society. It seems nowadays people are more interested in either being victims, seeking out victims, or creating victims when none exist.
The people they were talking to were supposedly from Portland, so did they have authority to be on property and if so, did they have authority to restrict other's from use of said property?NICU Dad said:
Once the media was asked to leave, they should have packed up and left. I'm curious as to what legal ground they think they have by hanging out on what seemed like private property when asked to leave? I suppose the next step would have been to call law enforcement to escort them out?
The people helping with the construction work could have been more diplomatic, but I totally get it. If they had been grinding 6 days of demo and repair work, I have no doubt their tolerance for a baseless charge from a media member would be not well received.
After 5 straight days of demo work myself, I even found my temper short with a guy like Glenn Beck doing a Facebook live event. I recall texting my buddy that doesn't live in Texas that unless Beck was there to swing a hammer, he was another useless rubbernecking media member clogging up the roads for those of us trying to make difference in our community.
The way the media acted in this story is sadly just one data point on where we are at as a society. It seems nowadays people are more interested in either being victims, seeking out victims, or creating victims when none exist.
The Cambodian owners asked her to leave.
Kaitlin's like what, 26?88jrt06 said:ChiliBeans said:I know you're not talking about the mother of my child, Kaitlin Monte.Quote:
stations like 26 keep bringing us airheaded second runner ups from the Miss Ugaboogastan pagent.
Your child is Kaitlin. Noted, old fart. No more incestuous posts, please.
You've got a kid in college at Auburn and you're calling him an old fart?
The volunteers first asked her to leave -- but they did not own the property. Then, the volunteers claimed that the property owners told the media to leave. When the owners came out, they first asked the crew to leave, but then invited them in their homes to see the damage.
This is completely the case. It's a matter of give people what they want.Boo Weekley said:
The sad part is that we receive what we demand (I think that's an old Jack Johnson lyric). The media tends to appeal to the lowest common denominator who wants shock and awe and hype, rather than substance, objectivity and truth. If enough people decided they were sick of the crap reporting and just quit watching, as I did long ago...it would hit them in the pocketbook and they may decide that it's worth it to quit fabricating hype driven "news". Unfortunately I predict this will never happen and it is only going to get worse and worse.
The audience for real news is still there, but audiences are so fractured. These old outlets are having a difficult time finding their niche. That's why they cater to what's hot or what's controversial.
I wouldn't say the stories are fabricate. They are not.
Promo departments also have a lot to do with it. The teases overpromise and the stories underdeliver.
The advent of social media, the attitude that everyone is a reporter, has eroded news as a whole. The rush to get the story out first for many has overrun the necessity to get it right.
Slightly off topic, but I was thinking about how much a reporter or producer can shape the "truth" of a story.
Take the story about the face-tatted ghetto thug who was found hacked to pieces in a Baytown landfill and his woman arrested.
I saw a story on one station talking about the couple's violent past, how neighbors had seen the ghetto thug beating her and choking her with a belt on the ground in the apartment complex parking lot.
Then I flip to KTRK 10PM news for this story ( http://abc13.com/baytown-woman-accused-of-shooting-cutting-up-boyfriend/2426715/ ) told completely from the perspective of Ghetto Thug's homey, talmbout what a u-neek sole he was and how he was so #blessed 2 kno sum1 lik him.
In that version of the story, KTRK gives you the perception that Ghetto Thug was 100% angelic, and he and his friends were mislead and betrayed by a woman possessed by the Devil.
Just an example of how much control those brave journalists and producers have over the way people perceive facts.
Take the story about the face-tatted ghetto thug who was found hacked to pieces in a Baytown landfill and his woman arrested.
I saw a story on one station talking about the couple's violent past, how neighbors had seen the ghetto thug beating her and choking her with a belt on the ground in the apartment complex parking lot.
Then I flip to KTRK 10PM news for this story ( http://abc13.com/baytown-woman-accused-of-shooting-cutting-up-boyfriend/2426715/ ) told completely from the perspective of Ghetto Thug's homey, talmbout what a u-neek sole he was and how he was so #blessed 2 kno sum1 lik him.
In that version of the story, KTRK gives you the perception that Ghetto Thug was 100% angelic, and he and his friends were mislead and betrayed by a woman possessed by the Devil.
Just an example of how much control those brave journalists and producers have over the way people perceive facts.
U neek sole
I don't think it is so much as "shaping truth" as it is getting the interviews they get, coupled with the tight deadlines.ChiliBeans said:
Slightly off topic, but I was thinking about how much a reporter or producer can shape the "truth" of a story.
Take the story about the face-tatted ghetto thug who was found hacked to pieces in a Baytown landfill and his woman arrested.
I saw a story on one station talking about the couple's violent past, how neighbors had seen the ghetto thug beating her and choking her with a belt on the ground in the apartment complex parking lot.
Then I flip to KTRK 10PM news for this story ( http://abc13.com/baytown-woman-accused-of-shooting-cutting-up-boyfriend/2426715/ ) told completely from the perspective of Ghetto Thug's homey, talmbout what a u-neek sole he was and how he was so #blessed 2 kno sum1 lik him.
In that version of the story, KTRK gives you the perception that Ghetto Thug was 100% angelic, and he and his friends were mislead and betrayed by a woman possessed by the Devil.
Just an example of how much control those brave journalists and producers have over the way people perceive facts.
When it comes to those types of stories, reporters are looking for a family member or a close friend of the victim -- those people knew the victim best. They will likely have the most to say. Most of the time, families ask for privacy and reporters will respect that. So, they are left with the friends.
Also, look at it this way -- when a family member or friend dies -- you remember all the good things about them. Yes, you know there are bad things, but why hash that right after said person died? That could account for the "angelic" perception of the victim in this case.
Now, I don't know a whole lot about this story -- but didn't the woman claim she'd been beaten several times? I believe that information would be public record from the police report, or info given by investigators.
The only other version I saw with any sound was KHOU. They had sound with neighbors who didn't appear to hear or see anything.
So, you have 13 with info from police and victim friend sound. The story needed another interview (maybe a neighbor) but due to time constraints, I understand why there wasn't one there.
11's story appeared basically rehash or what was already out there with new neighbor sound that didn't add anything.
I can't watch the local news anymore, I find it boring with the same stories day in day out just involving different people. The investigative reporters feel phony, not questioning their reporting, they just simply come off as hokey. The newscasters come off as fake as well, their "emotions" seem so contrived, as if a director is directing on how they should act. Agproducer, my post is not directed at you, just giving my reason why I can't watch local news anymore.
A lot of times they are imo. I am not saying whatever station you work at does this but I see news reporters and journalists, mostly at the national level, trying to dictate the narrative and/or frame stories on a regular basis. Sometimes it's completely fabricated...Dan Rather ring a bell?agproducer said:This is completely the case. It's a matter of give people what they want.Boo Weekley said:
The sad part is that we receive what we demand (I think that's an old Jack Johnson lyric). The media tends to appeal to the lowest common denominator who wants shock and awe and hype, rather than substance, objectivity and truth. If enough people decided they were sick of the crap reporting and just quit watching, as I did long ago...it would hit them in the pocketbook and they may decide that it's worth it to quit fabricating hype driven "news". Unfortunately I predict this will never happen and it is only going to get worse and worse.
The audience for real news is still there, but audiences are so fractured. These old outlets are having a difficult time finding their niche. That's why they cater to what's hot or what's controversial.
I wouldn't say the stories are fabricate. They are not.
Promo departments also have a lot to do with it. The teases overpromise and the stories underdeliver.
The advent of social media, the attitude that everyone is a reporter, has eroded news as a whole. The rush to get the story out first for many has overrun the necessity to get it right.
CNN does this sh** ALL THE TIME.
There is no "appear" about it. The MSN thinks about half of what Castro or Mao did was too conservative. The very idea that the news is still (or, honestly, ever was) this bastion of independence and tows the line of impartialism is just silly.agproducer said:
Chili, your points two and three are valid. They are facts, but point 1 is incorrect.
Ratings play into the stories that are chosen to pursue, but not the end all be all. They are not the main reason for pursuing stories.
Second, the fact she is a Democrat doesn't matter. She does not choose the stories she pursues. She's assigned it.
Now for those who are critical and think the local media is just goes after people because it has an agenda--- you are wrong.
As far as the National media, I don't believe it does either, but as BBRex pointed out earlier, it may appear to lean left.
Continue to believe what you want. I stated based on journalists I've worked with through the years, that opinion is wrong.
I've helped folks on this board when I was in media and delivered results for them. So again, shots from the peanut gallery continue believing what you'd like. Regardless of the truth, it won't change your opinion.
It's a great idea on paper, but the practical reality is that the MSN is ardently left and so long as they get to keep their credentials and get special treatment, they will push further and further left.
The problem with the national media, imo, is the 24 hour news cycle. The whole format sucks. It's taken away from the actual news and given way to guests and commentators who are talking heads, espousing opinions that many viewers take as news.Boo Weekley said:A lot of times they are imo. I am not saying whatever station you work at does this but I see news reporters and journalists, mostly at the national level, trying to dictate the narrative and/or frame stories on a regular basis. Sometimes it's completely fabricated...Dan Rather ring a bell?agproducer said:This is completely the case. It's a matter of give people what they want.Boo Weekley said:
The sad part is that we receive what we demand (I think that's an old Jack Johnson lyric). The media tends to appeal to the lowest common denominator who wants shock and awe and hype, rather than substance, objectivity and truth. If enough people decided they were sick of the crap reporting and just quit watching, as I did long ago...it would hit them in the pocketbook and they may decide that it's worth it to quit fabricating hype driven "news". Unfortunately I predict this will never happen and it is only going to get worse and worse.
The audience for real news is still there, but audiences are so fractured. These old outlets are having a difficult time finding their niche. That's why they cater to what's hot or what's controversial.
I wouldn't say the stories are fabricate. They are not.
Promo departments also have a lot to do with it. The teases overpromise and the stories underdeliver.
The advent of social media, the attitude that everyone is a reporter, has eroded news as a whole. The rush to get the story out first for many has overrun the necessity to get it right.
CNN does this sh** ALL THE TIME.
The news I'm referencing is local news. National is an entirely different ballgame.
Good point, thanks for clarifyingagproducer said:The problem with the national media, imo, is the 24 hour news cycle. The whole format sucks. It's taken away from the actual news and given way to guests and commentators who are talking heads, espousing opinions that many viewers take as news.Boo Weekley said:A lot of times they are imo. I am not saying whatever station you work at does this but I see news reporters and journalists, mostly at the national level, trying to dictate the narrative and/or frame stories on a regular basis. Sometimes it's completely fabricated...Dan Rather ring a bell?agproducer said:This is completely the case. It's a matter of give people what they want.Boo Weekley said:
The sad part is that we receive what we demand (I think that's an old Jack Johnson lyric). The media tends to appeal to the lowest common denominator who wants shock and awe and hype, rather than substance, objectivity and truth. If enough people decided they were sick of the crap reporting and just quit watching, as I did long ago...it would hit them in the pocketbook and they may decide that it's worth it to quit fabricating hype driven "news". Unfortunately I predict this will never happen and it is only going to get worse and worse.
The audience for real news is still there, but audiences are so fractured. These old outlets are having a difficult time finding their niche. That's why they cater to what's hot or what's controversial.
I wouldn't say the stories are fabricate. They are not.
Promo departments also have a lot to do with it. The teases overpromise and the stories underdeliver.
The advent of social media, the attitude that everyone is a reporter, has eroded news as a whole. The rush to get the story out first for many has overrun the necessity to get it right.
CNN does this sh** ALL THE TIME.
The news I'm referencing is local news. National is an entirely different ballgame.
So,......who is the chick filming and then selfie filming at end?
Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend.
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It is a tribute that 13 keeps a pretty damn good yet " mature" reporters like Debra Wrigley
The one reporter that would make Jabba the Hut verp up his Klatooine paddy frog.
Ciboag96 said:Quote:
It is a tribute that 13 keeps a pretty damn good yet " mature" reporters like Debra Wrigley
The one reporter that would make Jabba the Hut verp up his Klatooine paddy frog.
Who is actually a pretty good reporter who doesn't rely on her looks for her job.
There's no fabrication, just countless unnamed sources.
There's no vast media conspiracy. It's just that CNN, MsNBC, NBC, NPR, NY Times, WaPo, , etc all lean left. No conspiracy....Just a bunch of paid actors reading what they're told to read.
There's no vast media conspiracy. It's just that CNN, MsNBC, NBC, NPR, NY Times, WaPo, , etc all lean left. No conspiracy....Just a bunch of paid actors reading what they're told to read.
Boy, you've really got a thing for ol' Riggles, doncha?
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