We're not going to agree and quite frankly if you're so close that a brake light coming on causes you to go wildly out of control and crash then you're the problem. Putting it on the other party because you decided to roar up behind them laughable.
quote:quote:To say there is no other option is completely false. There are multiple other options rather than brake checking.
Lighting up my brake lights isn't going to get me years in jail, but I digress. I'll go with what the defensive driving course actually says to do when you're without another option.
Defensive driving tells you to slow down to encourage the other driver to go around you and to change lanes to avoid them. These are other options you have that they do teach you. And they are much safer for everyone involved.
quote:Looks like I did exactly what Defensive Driving suggest... heavy traffic, couldn't switch lanes, wasnt near a shoulder... I brake-checked, then slowed to a stop. Then he rammed me.
Tailgating
Tailgating is following another car too closely. If someone is following you too closely, be careful. Tap your brake lightly a few times to warn the tailgater that you are slowing down. Brake slowly before stopping. Avoid tailgaters when possible by changing lanes. If you cannot change lanes, slow down enough to encourage the tailgater to go around you. If this does not work, pull off the road when safe and let the tailgater pass.
quote:It isn't the only thing that would cause the accident, but you cannot say that if you tap the brakes and the other person goes out of control, that your action was not contributory to the accident.
We're not going to agree and quite frankly if you're so close that a brake light coming on causes you to go wildly out of control and crash then you're the problem. Putting it on the other party because you decided to roar up behind them laughable.
quote:Not always.
There's a reason most insurance companies and police classify and rear-end accident on the rearward vehicle. It's always their fault.
quote:They haven't.
I'd be curious to see even one case where a person tapped their brakes and was charged with anything. Not slamming them on or even pumping them to slightly change speed.
quote:http://www.northjersey.com/news/saddle-brook-man-found-guilty-of-vehicular-homicide-in-death-of-teaneck-woman-1.1449631
There's a reason most insurance companies and police classify and rear-end accident on the rearward vehicle. It's always their fault.
quote:Why do something that will incite road rage or contribute to an accident when you have other options available to you? Makes absolutely no sense.
After watching the viral video, Lieutenant Chris McIntire with Michigan State Police called the incident a case of road rage.
"That brake checking is what we see in road rage a lot, that's typically the cause of the road rage," said Lt. McIntire.
quote:I said tapping the brakes and that we were talking about something different and he continued replying saying that has gotten people charged.quote:They haven't.
I'd be curious to see even one case where a person tapped their brakes and was charged with anything. Not slamming them on or even pumping them to slightly change speed.
Everyone needs to get on the same page of "brake checking". Brake checking is the slamming of brakes when being tailgated. Let's call activating the brake lights as "brake light activation" or some *****
Jesus...
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traffic threads always bring out the pillow fighters amongst us.
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Fully intended to back out, but my god. What they're talking about in the articles you posted is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from what I am. I've made that abundantly clear. They are not the same in any way, shape or form. They're talking about people slamming on their brakes. Not lighting up their tail lights. Now seriously, I'm out this time.
quote:You sound triggered.
Lighting up your tail lights can be perceived as an aggressive move and can incite more road rage.
quote:Mildly unrelated:quote:You sound triggered.
Lighting up your tail lights can be perceived as an aggressive move and can incite more road rage.
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It's used to light up your brake lights and warn the guy behind you he's too close. I didn't slam my brakes. I touched my brakes to put on the lights without decelerating.
quote:There would be more than one vehicle up his ass if he'd been camping for miles. Tailgater was on the dude's bumper immediately even with the obvious entering vehicle. Never gave him a chance to safely get in the right lane before crowding.quote:he was definitely tailgating too close no doubt. but, i'll bet you dollars to donuts that car in front of him had been camping in the left for miles.
Tailgater in that video is a complete moron. Front car is passing an 18 wheeler then stays in the left lane due to merging traffic into the right lane from the on ramp. Nothing wrong with this.
see it every single day of the week.