http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2013/12/two-members-of-1993-oilers-were-gay-teammates-knew-didnt-care/?cmpid=hpts

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“Everybody knew certain guys (were gay). Everybody speculated and people used to see these two guys come in by themselves. They’d leave at lunchtime and then come back,” Cris Dishman said.

Dishman, a two-time Pro Bowler echoed Lathon’s thoughts, saying the gay players were highly valued on the field and showering with them in the locker room was “no big deal.”

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Still no confirmation whether IT was bitten off after the wreck

showered many times in jr and high school in athletics with guys that were gay (confirmed then and now) and it really is no big deal.

i was however much more athletic back then and more conformable/confident in my body so that probably helped. not sure i have enough self-esteem to shower with the typical fit/athletic gay guy these days

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Ernest givins is who they are talking about

^without a doubt

The electric slide is still the greatest endzone dance

Saw dishman a few times this fall at my kids flag football games. I need to read this article and watch that documentary.

Why does the quote above say Chris dismann and the article says bubba mcdowell? How does that happen?

I always heard that about Alm.

Givens, Jeffries, and Alm.

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Ernest givins is who they are talking about

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My money is on tony zendejas.

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More like Al Del Gayco and Gaywood Jefferies, amirite?

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You take that back!!! Al Del Greco was the man!

Al del Greco was a known womanizer back in the day

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Al del Greco was a known womanizer back in the day

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and one heck of a golfer!

Just yankin y'all on the Grec, he is indeed the man

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and one heck of a golfer!

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Don't know if he still is but he was a high school golf coach over in alabama.

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Showered with gay guys all the time back in HS outside of athletics and it wasn't a big deal at all.

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It's sad looking at the roster from 20 years ago, and noticing more than half the team is younger than I am.

1993 Houston Oilers Roster

Player Pos G GS Birthdate College
Melvin Aldridge DB 1 0 07/22/1970 Murray State
Jeff Alm DT 2 0 03/31/1968 Notre Dame
Micheal Barrow LB 16 0 04/19/1970 Miami
Blaine Bishop DB 16 2 07/24/1970 Ball State
Joe Bowden LB 16 6 02/25/1970 Oklahoma
Gary Brown RB 16 8 07/01/1969 Penn State
Reggie Brown WR 4 0 05/05/1970 Alabama State
Tony Brown DB 16 0 05/15/1970 Fresno State
Cody Carlson QB 8 2 11/05/1963 Baylor
Ray Childress DT 16 16 10/20/1962 Texas A&M
Pat Coleman WR 13 1 04/08/1967 Mississippi
Doug Dawson OG 16 16 12/27/1961 Texas
Al Del Greco K 16 0 03/02/1962 Auburn
Cris Dishman DB 16 16 08/13/1965 Purdue
Kevin Donnalley OG 16 6 06/10/1968 North Carolina
Willie Drewrey WR 16 0 04/28/1963 West Virginia
Curtis Duncan WR 12 12 01/26/1965 Northwestern
William Fuller DE 16 16 03/08/1962 North Carolina
Ernest Givins WR 16 16 09/03/1964 Louisville
Travis Hannah WR 12 0 01/31/1970 Southern California
Leonard Harris WR 4 2 11/27/1960 Texas Tech
Terry Hoage DB 3 0 04/11/1962 Georgia
Brad Hopkins OT 16 11 09/05/1970 Illinois
Steve Jackson DB 16 12 04/08/1969 Purdue
Haywood Jeffires WR 16 16 12/12/1964 North Carolina State
Sean Jones DE 16 16 12/19/1962 Northeastern
Tony Jones WR 2 0 12/30/1965 Texas
Scott Kozak LB 16 0 11/28/1965 Oregon
Lamar Lathon LB 13 1 12/23/1967 Houston
Darryll Lewis DB 4 4 12/16/1968 Arizona
Wilber Marshall LB 10 10 04/18/1962 Florida
Emanuel Martin DB 1 0 07/31/1969 Alabama State
Le’Shai Maston RB 10 0 10/07/1970 Baylor
Bruce Matthews OG 16 16 08/08/1961 Southern California
Damon Mays WR 1 0 05/20/1968 Missouri
Keith McCants DE 13 0 04/19/1968 Alabama
Bubba McDowell DB 14 14 11/04/1966 Miami
John Henry Mills RB 16 0 10/31/1969 Wake Forest
Glenn Montgomery DT 16 11 03/31/1967 Houston
Greg Montgomery P 15 0 10/29/1964 Michigan State
Warren Moon QB 15 14 11/18/1956 Washington
Mike Munchak OG 13 12 03/05/1960 Penn State
Erik Norgard C 16 4 11/04/1965 Colorado
Bo Orlando DB 16 3 04/03/1966 West Virginia
Bucky Richardson QB 2 0 02/07/1969 Texas A&M
Tim Roberts DE 6 0 04/14/1969 Southern Mississippi
Marcus Robertson DB 13 13 10/02/1969 Iowa State
Eddie Robinson LB 16 15 04/13/1970 Alabama State
Webster Slaughter WR 14 14 10/19/1964 San Diego State
Al Smith LB 16 16 11/26/1964 Utah State
Kent Sullivan P 1 0 05/15/1964 California Lutheran
Mike Teeter DL 14 0 10/04/1967 Michigan
Stan Thomas OT 14 0 10/28/1968 Texas
Spencer Tillman RB 15 0 04/21/1964 Oklahoma
Craig Veasey DT 1 0 12/25/1966 Houston
Gary Wellman WR 11 3 08/09/1967 Southern California
Lorenzo White RB 8 8 04/12/1966 Michigan State
David Williams OT 15 15 06/21/1966 Florida
Lee Williams DE 14 5 10/15/1962 Bethune-Cookman

www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/houston-oilers/roster/1993

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Ernest Givens, NFL player - I'm not gay, but there's a rumor that's out there, and there isn't a damn thing I can do about it.

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McClain gave a pretty convincing rebuttal to the Jeff Alm urban legend this afternoon on 610. Like everyone else in this town I've always heard this, but it's always been someone who knows someone who knew someone else.
For what it's worth.

So he literally debunked the theory that his hog got bitten off during gay road head at the time of impact?

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McClain gave a pretty convincing rebuttal to the Jeff Alm urban legend this afternoon on 610. Like everyone else in this town I've always heard this, but it's always been someone who knows someone who knew someone else.
For what it's worth.

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listened to it, wasn't that convincing, and most of what he says is garbage so pretty hard to believe him.

McClain is a total homer and naive so he'd spin any story he was told that protected someone's legacy.

No idea if the story is true or not but I certainly wouldn't buy any story McClain is spinning.

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it's always been someone who knows someone who knew someone else.

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Mine was an ambulance chaser friend who knew an EMT at the scene.

So the article has posted on the website for those who have special access. Anyone?

McClain is a total dip****. never listen to that fat, bailure grad moron.

Bailure grad moron. Nice. It had me looking in Gray’s anatomy. No such malady exists though. “Paint it Black” is playing on iTunes.

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So the article has posted on the website for those who have special access. Anyone?

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http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/Oilers-endorsed-accepted-their-gay-teammates-5096231.php

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Oilers endorsed, accepted their gay teammates
By Brian T. Smith
December 29, 2013
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Coaches hated coaches. Players detested players. A team divided fell apart, caving to the pressure of one of the craziest and most soap opera-like seasons in NFL history.
That's the longstanding story line of the 1993 Oilers, an arc reinforced by a recent NFL Network documentary about one of the most dysfunctional pro football teams to take the field.
Players supported that general theme during interviews with the Chronicle. But they also insisted the 1993 Oilers were much more of an inclusive family than most have given them credit for.
"I really enjoyed playing on that team, to be honest with you," five-time Pro Bowl defensive end Ray Childress said.
To prove how united the Oilers were in the face of constant adversity, players confirmed a rumor hinted at during the peak of a turmoil-filled era.
At least two key members of the 1993 Oilers were gay, players said. And not only did the team know about the issue, but players accepted their gay teammates and did not ostracize them.
"Listen, those guys that we're talking about were unbelievable teammates," said Pro Bowl linebacker Lamar Lathon, who starred at the University of Houston. "And if you wanted to go to war with someone, you would get those guys first. Because I have never seen tougher guys than those guys.
"And everybody in the locker room, the consensus knew or had an idea that things were not exactly right. But guess what? When they strapped the pads on and got on the field, man, we were going to war with these guys because they were unbelievable."
Defensive back Bubba McDowell echoed his former teammate, saying the gay players were highly valued on the field and showering with them in the locker room was "no big deal."
"Everybody knew certain guys (were gay)," McDowell said. "Everybody speculated, and people used to see these two guys come in by themselves. They'd leave at lunchtime and then come back.
"Even on the road, guys get caught coming out of the room. 'Hey, what you doing?' But if it was such a bad situation, trust me, there was no grown man that'd put up with that if … that was a distraction to them.
"But that's just how it was. And those same gentlemen that were being accused of it, we were with them all of the time. The whole time."
In April, former NBA center Jason Collins, 35, became the first active athlete in any of the four major pro sports to declare he was gay. Collins is a free agent and hasn't played for a team since the 2013-14 season began.
No active NFL, MLB, NBA or NHL athlete publicly has declared being gay.

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There is a trick if you try to open a pay chron article, copy the headline into google and you can read the whole thing.

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Thank you.

And this told us nothing. *******s.

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