I forget the exact terms but something along the lines of having to perform (in front of the AAC) four one-hour segments based on what the current show picks (Musers, Hardline, etc).
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So i don't listen a tom anymore but when i do tune in i hear a lot of cross pollination. Gordo on at night or afternoon, Corby on in the morning.
Trying to help ratings? Are thet slipping yet?
Trying to help ratings? Are thet slipping yet?
They made that a staple when The Freak hit the air. The rant revival is excellent listening every week.
pretty telling that few of us know what the picks with friends payoff is
GarlandAg2012 said:
They... have a stronger brand identity, especially if you adjust for recent success.
What recent success?? This year, where both Texas and Bama made the playoff?? Other than this year, Texas has a 54% winning percentage and no conference titles since Mack was fired after 2013. In that same period, Bama has won 3 national championships and played in the title game 3 other times. But yeah, Texas is the stronger football brand.
TheRatt87 said:GarlandAg2012 said:
They... have a stronger brand identity, especially if you adjust for recent success.
What recent success?? This year, where both Texas and Bama made the playoff?? Other than this year, Texas has a 54% winning percentage and no conference titles since Mack was fired after 2013. In that same period, Bama has won 3 national championships and played in the title game 3 other times. But yeah, Texas is the stronger football brand.
That's exactly my point. tu's brand is still as strong as bamas and that's WITHOUT much recent success. If they had a hot streak like Bama they would be way more popular and insufferable. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the CFB world. I think of Bama more like New England. Their winning has made them relevant, but without it they'd just be another program (albeit with more historical success than NE due to Bear Bryant, so not a perfect analogy).
Texas got its own tv network. Austin is one of the nations hottest cities right now. People love the colors and the perceived culture. Much of it is smoke and mirrors but the fact that tu is even close to Bama despite being so mid over the last decade is telling. Bama in the 90s was nothing compared to tu in the 2010s.
GarlandAg2012 said:TheRatt87 said:GarlandAg2012 said:
They... have a stronger brand identity, especially if you adjust for recent success.
What recent success?? This year, where both Texas and Bama made the playoff?? Other than this year, Texas has a 54% winning percentage and no conference titles since Mack was fired after 2013. In that same period, Bama has won 3 national championships and played in the title game 3 other times. But yeah, Texas is the stronger football brand.
That's exactly my point. tu's brand is still as strong as bamas and that's WITHOUT much recent success. If they had a hot streak like Bama they would be way more popular and insufferable. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the CFB world. I think of Bama more like New England. Their winning has made them relevant, but without it they'd just be another program (albeit with more historical success than NE due to Bear Bryant, so not a perfect analogy).
Texas got its own tv network. Austin is one of the nations hottest cities right now. People love the colors and the perceived culture. Much of it is smoke and mirrors but the fact that tu is even close to Bama despite being so mid over the last decade is telling. Bama in the 90s was nothing compared to tu in the 2010s.
I get it. tu's win in the final game of the series your jr year scarred you and they live rent free in your head.
But outside your own mind and the State of TX, the perception of the brands and programs are light years apart. I grew up in DFW but haven't lived in TX for over 15 yrs & travel nationwide regularly, and nationally, tu's football program is viewed as nothing but hot air and unfulfilled potential. Go to the Southeast, the Midwest, or the West Coast. What you will hear about tu is snickers.
Your perception is skewed by living in Texas and brands don't win championships.GarlandAg2012 said:TheRatt87 said:GarlandAg2012 said:
They... have a stronger brand identity, especially if you adjust for recent success.
What recent success?? This year, where both Texas and Bama made the playoff?? Other than this year, Texas has a 54% winning percentage and no conference titles since Mack was fired after 2013. In that same period, Bama has won 3 national championships and played in the title game 3 other times. But yeah, Texas is the stronger football brand.
That's exactly my point. tu's brand is still as strong as bamas and that's WITHOUT much recent success. If they had a hot streak like Bama they would be way more popular and insufferable. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the CFB world. I think of Bama more like New England. Their winning has made them relevant, but without it they'd just be another program (albeit with more historical success than NE due to Bear Bryant, so not a perfect analogy).
Texas got its own tv network. Austin is one of the nations hottest cities right now. People love the colors and the perceived culture. Much of it is smoke and mirrors but the fact that tu is even close to Bama despite being so mid over the last decade is telling. Bama in the 90s was nothing compared to tu in the 2010s.
TheRatt87 said:GarlandAg2012 said:TheRatt87 said:GarlandAg2012 said:
They... have a stronger brand identity, especially if you adjust for recent success.
What recent success?? This year, where both Texas and Bama made the playoff?? Other than this year, Texas has a 54% winning percentage and no conference titles since Mack was fired after 2013. In that same period, Bama has won 3 national championships and played in the title game 3 other times. But yeah, Texas is the stronger football brand.
That's exactly my point. tu's brand is still as strong as bamas and that's WITHOUT much recent success. If they had a hot streak like Bama they would be way more popular and insufferable. They are the Dallas Cowboys of the CFB world. I think of Bama more like New England. Their winning has made them relevant, but without it they'd just be another program (albeit with more historical success than NE due to Bear Bryant, so not a perfect analogy).
Texas got its own tv network. Austin is one of the nations hottest cities right now. People love the colors and the perceived culture. Much of it is smoke and mirrors but the fact that tu is even close to Bama despite being so mid over the last decade is telling. Bama in the 90s was nothing compared to tu in the 2010s.
I get it. tu's win in the final game of the series your jr year scarred you and they live rent free in your head.
But outside your own mind and the State of TX, the perception of the brands and programs are light years apart. I grew up in DFW but haven't lived in TX for over 15 yrs & travel nationwide regularly, and nationally, tu's football program is viewed as nothing but hot air and unfulfilled potential. Go to the Southeast, the Midwest, or the West Coast. What you will hear about tu is snickers.
Thanks for the diagnosis but no reason to be a ***** just because I say something you disagree with.
Alabama without sustained success will be a program even lower in people's minds than Texas without success. That's what I meant about adjusting for recent success. Alabama is a crappy school in a crappy town who hired the greatest coach ever. Texas is academically better, better located, has a more interesting cultural brand, and thankfully hoists itself on its own petard enough to not be better at football. That's all I'm saying.
Omg you travel??? Nevermind I take it all back. I didn't realize I was arguing with someone who TRAVELS NATIONWIDE.
Again, all those advantages have existed for decades and decades. I'm about to hit 50 and they have one title in my lifetime. So it seems there are a lot of obstacles that come with those advantages, or maybe those advantages just don't make the impact people think they should.
Alabama has always been a better program than tu, it has nothing to do with Saban. They have a national title in every decade from the 1920s-2020s except the 50s and 80s.Quote:
Alabama without sustained success will be a program even lower in people's minds than Texas without success. That's what I meant about adjusting for recent success. Alabama is a crappy school in a crappy town who hired the greatest coach ever. Texas is academically better, better located, has a more interesting cultural brand, and thankfully hoists itself on its own petard enough to not be better at football. That's all I'm saying.
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Texas is academically better, better located, has a more interesting cultural brand,
None of that wins football games.
You all like to crap on how dumb corby is. But the picks with friends session with corby shows he is much much smarter than Donovan. Donovan either doesn't understand math or logic or maybe anything at all. He's in last place in picks with friends and his picks all but assured that he stays in last place. He refused to go against the cowboys which would've been the smart pick bc Matt triple played the cowboys. And now the other guys can tail his triple play of Kansas City so that's only a 2 point swing if they win. To top it off, he also picked the cowboys for a single play instead of picking the packers.
Corby had to explain to him why it was so dumb and he still didn't get it. It was mind numbingly dumb.
Corby had to explain to him why it was so dumb and he still didn't get it. It was mind numbingly dumb.
I don't see anyone touting Donny as a Rhodes Scholar.
This wasn't Rhodes Scholar stuff. This was elementary logic.
Pretty solid fake Nick Saban this morning.
Georgie's Nick Saban… not bad! So surly.
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I feel like I hear the most about tu's potential and greatness from fellow Aggies.
You're probably too close to the situation.
You're probably too close to the situation.
Saban ready to fight this morning.
Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
I feel like I hear the most about tu's potential and greatness from fellow Aggies.
You're probably too close to the situation.
This.
Horns have a lot of things going for them and nationwide they're viewed as a historically relevant program, but they're also viewed as massive underachievers and a big punchline because of their arrogance. People in this state are way too close to the situation and feel like their thoughts and experiences must be felt that way everywhere. They're not.
I'm not arguing texas wins more. Stop moving the goalposts on me. Here is what I originally said that someone took issue with:powerbelly said:Alabama has always been a better program than tu, it has nothing to do with Saban. They have a national title in every decade from the 1920s-2020s except the 50s and 80s.Quote:
Alabama without sustained success will be a program even lower in people's minds than Texas without success. That's what I meant about adjusting for recent success. Alabama is a crappy school in a crappy town who hired the greatest coach ever. Texas is academically better, better located, has a more interesting cultural brand, and thankfully hoists itself on its own petard enough to not be better at football. That's all I'm saying.Quote:
Texas is academically better, better located, has a more interesting cultural brand,
None of that wins football games.
The fact that texas has stayed somewhat relevant despite their middling historical success is proof positive that their brand identity is very strong. Why anyone would argue that texas isn't a strong brand is totally beyond me.Quote:
I think Texas would be a much bigger juggernaut if they hired a Saban. They are in a better location, are better academically, and have a stronger brand identity, especially if you adjust for recent success. The only reason Texas isn't all it could be is due to meddling AD/donors and unlucky hires.
I get it, I'm just a poor triggered butthurt aggie. Whatever. I didn't even say anything that complimentary about texas! I just said they have a lot of qualities that would make them a superpower in CFB if they could get out of their own way.
Because being a strong brand is irrelevant.
What sentence of mine are you replying to with your "because"? I don't think I asked a why questionpowerbelly said:
Because being a strong brand is irrelevant.
I haven't laughed as hard in a while as I did today at TD Jakes losing "a size 57 pair of BVDs" in a gas leak explosion.
Because a "strong brand" doesn't matter in this discussion.Quote:
The fact that texas has stayed somewhat relevant despite their middling historical success is proof positive that their brand identity is very strong. Why anyone would argue that texas isn't a strong brand is totally beyond me.
I hate how this conversation has evolved to where I feel like I'm sticking up for t.u.
I think both sides have valid arguments but are arguing two different things. The potentiality vs Actuality.
The potential is there for t.u. to be considered a better program than Alabama due to a lot of factors already mentioned.
The actual results are highly different and t.u. seem to be more closely related to USC than Alabama. Big program in huge state but struggles to put consistent winning together outside of 2 coaching regimes. DKR & Mack for t.u. and John McKay & Pete Carrol for USC.
I think both sides have valid arguments but are arguing two different things. The potentiality vs Actuality.
The potential is there for t.u. to be considered a better program than Alabama due to a lot of factors already mentioned.
The actual results are highly different and t.u. seem to be more closely related to USC than Alabama. Big program in huge state but struggles to put consistent winning together outside of 2 coaching regimes. DKR & Mack for t.u. and John McKay & Pete Carrol for USC.
What discussion? In the discussion of which program would be a bigger football juggernaut had they hired Nick Saban in 2007, program prestige and brand power absolutely matters. I do not understand why people had such a bone to pick with what I said.powerbelly said:Because a "strong brand" doesn't matter in this discussion.Quote:
The fact that texas has stayed somewhat relevant despite their middling historical success is proof positive that their brand identity is very strong. Why anyone would argue that texas isn't a strong brand is totally beyond me.
This is a good summary IMOLegal Custodian said:
I hate how this conversation has evolved to where I feel like I'm sticking up for t.u.
I think both sides have valid arguments but are arguing two different things. The potentiality vs Actuality.
The potential is there for t.u. to be considered a better program than Alabama due to a lot of factors already mentioned.
The actual results are highly different and t.u. seem to be more closely related to USC than Alabama. Big program in huge state but struggles to put consistent winning together outside of 2 coaching regimes. DKR & Mack for t.u. and John McKay & Pete Carrol for USC.
Yea, I'm not sure why people are disagreeing with what you said either.
Two things seem true: (1) Alabama has been the best program in the nation during Saban's run and is the best program in the nation historically when you consider the entirety of college football; and (2) Texas is likely a bigger brand than Alabama, meaning that if the programs have equal success on the field, Texas is the bigger name/brand/draw.
The fact that Texas has not had success just shows how big their brand is. They have 1 championship in the past 50+ years and are still a huge brand. They got their own national TV network and have only won 1 championship in 50+ years. No one thought about giving Bama their own network even though their results have been far better. When Bama was struggling for years prior to Saban, they were not constantly being talked about by the media, etc. When Texas is struggling, they are still constantly talked about by the media. I think the Cowboys (longhorns) vs. Patriots (bama) comparison is probably pretty accurate. Bama has been covered and talked about a ton during the Saban era because of all their success. But any team with that amount of success will be covered by the media. How much you are covered when you aren't having success shows more about how big the brand is in my opinion.
Two things seem true: (1) Alabama has been the best program in the nation during Saban's run and is the best program in the nation historically when you consider the entirety of college football; and (2) Texas is likely a bigger brand than Alabama, meaning that if the programs have equal success on the field, Texas is the bigger name/brand/draw.
The fact that Texas has not had success just shows how big their brand is. They have 1 championship in the past 50+ years and are still a huge brand. They got their own national TV network and have only won 1 championship in 50+ years. No one thought about giving Bama their own network even though their results have been far better. When Bama was struggling for years prior to Saban, they were not constantly being talked about by the media, etc. When Texas is struggling, they are still constantly talked about by the media. I think the Cowboys (longhorns) vs. Patriots (bama) comparison is probably pretty accurate. Bama has been covered and talked about a ton during the Saban era because of all their success. But any team with that amount of success will be covered by the media. How much you are covered when you aren't having success shows more about how big the brand is in my opinion.
mavsfan4ever said:
Yea, I'm not sure why people are disagreeing with what you said either.
Two things seem true: (1) Alabama has been the best program in the nation during Saban's run and is the best program in the nation historically when you consider the entirety of college football; and (2) Texas is likely a bigger brand than Alabama, meaning that if the programs have equal success on the field, Texas is the bigger name/brand/draw.
The fact that Texas has not had success just shows how big their brand is. They have 1 championship in the past 50+ years and are still a huge brand. They got their own national TV network and have only won 1 championship in 50+ years. No one thought about giving Bama their own network even though their results have been far better. When Bama was struggling for years prior to Saban, they were not constantly being talked about by the media, etc. When Texas is struggling, they are still constantly talked about by the media. I think the Cowboys (longhorns) vs. Patriots (bama) comparison is probably pretty accurate. Bama has been covered and talked about a ton during the Saban era because of all their success. But any team with that amount of success will be covered by the media. How much you are covered when you aren't having success shows more about how big the brand is in my opinion.
To be fair there aren't a lot of schools that are in conferences that would allow their own network. Only Oklahoma, Texas and maybe A&M at the time had the right size, brand value and freedom to execute on that pursuit. I don't argue Texas as brand though. Their ability to stay media darlings in face of mediocrity proves that.
Yea good point on the network angle.
Are we just talking football or the entire program? If it's just football then Texas has been very disappointing for the most part. If we are talking about the entire program,including women's sports, then they are one of the best programs in the country if not the best. They have won 2 of the last 3 Directors Cups and almost won again.
The YouTube live stream from Dan's house has been fun with special guests including Nina Pham. A caller just asked what's worse getting Ebola or this loss. Jake looks like he wants to die
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The YouTube live stream from Dan's house has been fun with special guests including Nina Pham. A caller just asked what's worse getting Ebola or this loss. Jake looks like he wants to die
Did any callers remember that Jake wanted her dog euthanized (by decapitation) to stop the spread? I 'member.
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