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Hard 8 BBQ . . . Was not great

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sburg2007
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Had the brisket and ribs at 407 Friday. Ribs were amazing. Brisket pretty good.
wbt5845
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DallasAg2 said:

There are so many places I have not tried though and I am afraid of the lines at some of the places.
I agree. I know many people think any barbeque worth having is something you have to stand in line hours for. But I sure not going to.

Amazed when people say "oh they only serve bbq on Saturday mornings starting at 7 AM and I stood in line 3 hours but it was TOTALLY WORTH IT and I'm like "damn you're crazy".
double aught
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Some are trying to justify what they just did, I suspect. I went to Franklins at sunrise and waited hours to eat. Now, it was a great time because I was with my friends and we just sat around and drank beer while we waited. And once we finally ate, the food was indeed great. But some of the people in there were going into such histrionics over the food, to the point they were almost falling out of their chairs. I think they had to prove to everyone (and more importantly themselves) that it was worth the wait.

Personally, I thought it was very good, but maybe marginally better than a few places I've been to around Dallas that often have no wait. I'd never wait that long again, unless I had another mobile tailgate setup with college friends I hadn't seen in a while.
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SoupNazi2001 said:

Has anyone been to Rooster's BBQ near Granbury?

I find it pretty meh, but I know others that rave about it. I'm not a bbq snob, but I think there's better options, unless you just happen to be in the area.

Evidently he use to cater meals for the Cowboys.
ursusguy
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I love BBQ, but yeah, I'm not waiting in line more than a couple minutes. A long line (well any line) is a turn off to me.

Haven't been in years, but I used to love Bailey's in FW. Longoria's is pretty decent (brisket sausage). Goldee's has grown on me.
Kellso
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YouBet said:

chris1515 said:

I prefer Dickey's over Hard 8.
The sides are much better.

Hard 8 is very overrated because of the atmosphere.
Oooof. That's not saying much then.

Frankly, we don't have very good BBQ in DFW for some reason. It all tastes the same to me aside from the one time I've had Pecan Lodge and that was a catered event. It's about the only thing I've had around here that stood out above the pack.
Maybe a few years ago.....but Dallas is stepping up.

Dallas does have the worst BBQ of any large city in Texas, but I find Heim, Terry Black's and Oaked to be excellent BBQ places that have opened up in the past 2 years in the city limits.

I love Rudy's and Hutchins.

Dickies is not bad for run of the mill BBQ. My favorite place in DFW is probably Terry Blacks in Deep Ellum.
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ursusguy said:

There is plenty of good BBQ, you just have to be willing to go south of I-30 in Dallas. I prefer places like Odom's or Hardeman's to pretty much any place listed so far. I might also add, I am a cheapskate.
The Mexican restaurant next door to Hardeman's kicks all kinds of ass.

Maskaras is fantastic.

Definitely one of those restaurants (like Wingfield's) worth going to the hood for.
Everything I've eaten at that place has been very tasty.

Their menu is based on food from the Guadalajara region of Mexico...so its a little different from traditional Tex-Mex.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/maskaras-mexican-grill-dallas-2

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This is the magical mystery at the heart of Maskaras Mexican Grill, Dallas' best destination for tacos ahogados. "Ahogado" is Spanish for "drowned," which is the perfect word for this classic preparation from Guadalajara.

Maskaras prepares three of its excellent carnitas tacos and serves them up inside good corn tortillas, which are gently fried to crispiness ($10). (If you know to ask, they'll use colorful chile-flavored tortillas which, lined up, form a green-white-red Mexican tricolor.) Then the whole plate gets drowned in a gently spicy homemade salsa, the kind that warms up your insides without scorching your taste buds, and topped with a tangle of raw white onions
https://www.dallasobserver.com/restaurants/maskaras-mexican-grill-cooks-up-stellar-tacos-ahogados-and-burritos-and-enchiladas-in-oak-cliff-11630302


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And it remains true of the trio of tacos ahogados at Maskaras Mexican Grill, a lucha-libre-themed taqueria in Dallas's Oak Cliff neighborhood owned by Rodolfo Jimenez and his wife, Zulma Vanessa Hernandez. Their tacos ahogados, which are stuffed with carnitas, are an addictively fantastic platter. And they don't require a fork. That is, if you eat them quickly enough.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/taco-week-tacos-ahogados-maskaras-mexican-grill/
Rubble
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I'm not waiting in line for food period. Don't give a **** what it is. If I'm hungry, I want to eat now, not in 3 hours.

Chick fil a is the best fast food joint in America, and they've figured out how to move the line. You can have good food and not make people wait.
YouBet
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Wont dispute it. I gave up trying to find good BBQ around here a few years ago so if it's gotten better that's great. Still plan to try Heim since it's close to us now.

Spring Creek is closest to us at this point so on the rare occasion we eat it that's what we get. Dickies is average at best but I'll eat it.
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Kellso said:

ursusguy said:

There is plenty of good BBQ, you just have to be willing to go south of I-30 in Dallas. I prefer places like Odom's or Hardeman's to pretty much any place listed so far. I might also add, I am a cheapskate.
The Mexican restaurant next door to Hardeman's kicks all kinds of ass.

Maskaras is fantastic.

Definitely one of those restaurants (like Wingfield's) worth going to the hood for.
Everything I've eaten at that place has been very tasty.

Their menu is based on food from the Guadalajara region of Mexico...so its a little different from traditional Tex-Mex.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/maskaras-mexican-grill-dallas-2

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This is the magical mystery at the heart of Maskaras Mexican Grill, Dallas' best destination for tacos ahogados. "Ahogado" is Spanish for "drowned," which is the perfect word for this classic preparation from Guadalajara.

Maskaras prepares three of its excellent carnitas tacos and serves them up inside good corn tortillas, which are gently fried to crispiness ($10). (If you know to ask, they'll use colorful chile-flavored tortillas which, lined up, form a green-white-red Mexican tricolor.) Then the whole plate gets drowned in a gently spicy homemade salsa, the kind that warms up your insides without scorching your taste buds, and topped with a tangle of raw white onions
https://www.dallasobserver.com/restaurants/maskaras-mexican-grill-cooks-up-stellar-tacos-ahogados-and-burritos-and-enchiladas-in-oak-cliff-11630302


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And it remains true of the trio of tacos ahogados at Maskaras Mexican Grill, a lucha-libre-themed taqueria in Dallas's Oak Cliff neighborhood owned by Rodolfo Jimenez and his wife, Zulma Vanessa Hernandez. Their tacos ahogados, which are stuffed with carnitas, are an addictively fantastic platter. And they don't require a fork. That is, if you eat them quickly enough.
https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/taco-week-tacos-ahogados-maskaras-mexican-grill/
I want to try both these places. Went to high school close to there and used to be in that shopping center all the time.
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If y'all haven't tried cattleack, pecan lodge, Lockhart, etc in Dallas then an opinion that Dallas doesn't have good bbq doesn't really mean much.

Maybe y'all mean that Dallas doesn't have as many good but not great bbq places as other cities? That might be true. But the top end places are phenomenal.
agcrock2005
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mavsfan4ever said:

If y'all haven't tried cattleack, pecan lodge, Lockhart, etc in Dallas then an opinion that Dallas doesn't have good bbq doesn't really mean much.

Maybe y'all mean that Dallas doesn't have as many good but not great bbq places as other cities? That might be true. But the top end places are phenomenal.
Of the 3 you mentioned, only Cattleack deserves the credit you're giving it. Pecan Lodge was awesome before they moved to the new location in order to cash in on the long lines. Quality went to trash. I've been to both Lockhart locations several times and have never had a good meal. 407 and Hutchins are way better than either of those places.
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Kellso said:



Dickies is not bad


I'm going to pretend I didn't just read this. You're a lost person and you should feel bad about yourself
El Hombre Mas Guapo
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Former (region award winning) Rudy's head chef here; their bbq is alright, not as good as their work environment. When they let the Seniors in our HS start running the back of the house; things got out of hand pretty quickly.

I make much better at home these days
El Hombre Mas Guapo
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mavsfan4ever said:

If y'all haven't tried cattleack, pecan lodge, Lockhart, etc in Dallas then an opinion that Dallas doesn't have good bbq doesn't really mean much.

Maybe y'all mean that Dallas doesn't have as many good but not great bbq places as other cities? That might be true. But the top end places are phenomenal.



Yeah, I agree with this sentiment. However, average bbq fans (not rabid fanatics) aren't going to jump through the hoops Cattleack requires, or wait in the mega line at Pecan. They need some good quality production bbq places like what H-Tine has. IMO
FunkyTownAg
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Derek Allens, Smokaholics, and Brix in Fort Worth are comparable to some of the best in the state and IMO blow even Pecan Lodge out of the water.
YouBet
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El Hombre Mas Guapo said:

mavsfan4ever said:

If y'all haven't tried cattleack, pecan lodge, Lockhart, etc in Dallas then an opinion that Dallas doesn't have good bbq doesn't really mean much.

Maybe y'all mean that Dallas doesn't have as many good but not great bbq places as other cities? That might be true. But the top end places are phenomenal.



Yeah, I agree with this sentiment. However, average bbq fans (not rabid fanatics) aren't going to jump through the hoops Cattleack requires, or wait in the mega line at Pecan. They need some good quality production bbq places like what H-Tine has. IMO
Agreed. I don't wait in lines for anything unless it's Armageddon.

Wait...here we are!
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FunkyTownAg said:

Brix in Fort Worth
I know this thread is about BBQ, but Hot Box Biscuit club just south of Brix is so freakin' awesome. One of my favorite restaurants.
FunkyTownAg
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Honestly that whole area is full of great places. Go grab a Sweet and Spicy box from Coco Shrimp. Delicious
wbt5845
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I'll try that. My problem is I usually go to Hop Fusion to start and - well, never leave.
ursusguy
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Maskaras is really good.

The Hardeman's I usually go to is the one over on Scyene. I like the one on Kiest, just not over there as often. The third on on Westmoreland is Hardeman's in name, but hasn't in the family in several years. But I do love tiny places.
YouBet
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I was messing around on a map trying to find something and I just noticed this Cattleack place mentioned on here is literally about 3 minutes from my house. Lol.

Never knew it was there.
ChoppinDs40
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Hutchins is still the best. All you can eat for $22. Everything. Ribs brisket turkey sausage Mac n cheese fried catfish tater salad fried okra green beans baked beans banana nilla puddin
Spaceship
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I went to Hard 8 in Coppell last night and it was exactly average.
Saxsoon
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I will give some credit to hard 8. Went back today for the ribeye and that was pretty damn good
The Shank Ag
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1. Drive to Celina
2. Go to Tender Smokehouse
3. Go to Rollertown Beerworks
4. Drive home satisfied
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1. Drive to Celina

2. Go to Tender Smokehouse
Is the Frisco location as good?
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The Shank Ag said:

1. Drive to Celina
2. Go to Tender Smokehouse
3. Go to Rollertown Beerworks
4. Drive home satisfied
I'd probably need the additional step of "nap" before #4.
The Shank Ag
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PlanoAg98 said:

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1. Drive to Celina

2. Go to Tender Smokehouse
Is the Frisco location as good?
I would guess the two locations would be about on the same level with the ownership group the same and not being stretched super thin.

Fun fact, one of the owners is 5 time all-star and notable Ranger's killer Torii Hunter.
 
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