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Yogurt shop murders?

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dead zip 01
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Where exactly was the yogurt shop located? I looked around on google some but couldn't find an address. I only saw it was in North Austin so I know I have been by it tons of times.
porchdawg
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It was fairly close to Northcross Mall... on Anderson lane between Burnet and MoPac I believe.
Bunk Moreland
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(from north austin) take mopac south to Anderson Ln...

take a left, and go down 2 streets...I believe it's the same strip that has the Play It Again Sports & the Mr. Gatti's to the right...if it's not THAT strip, it's one RIGHT near it, but I'm 90% sure that's the strip that it was located.
porchdawg
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quote:
Dec. 6, 1991: Firefighters responding to a fire at the I Can't Believe It's Yogurt shop at Anderson Lane and Rockwood Lane in North Austin (map) found the four young girls -- 17-year-old Eliza Thomas, 13-year-old Amy Ayers, 17-year-old Jennifer Harbison and 15-year-old Sarah Harbison -- murdered.


Almost 17 years ago... Ugly situation!

[This message has been edited by porchdawg (edited 7/27/2008 11:53p).]
Senator Blutarski
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Yep, it's the Mr. Gatti's one. There's a Sun Harvest grocery on the other end, and not sure what else. I dated a girl that lived a couple of blocks on the other side of Burnet, and we drove by the next morning not knowing what had happened.

I was so happy when they announced they had caught the guys, but these trials have been a mess.
Ashley96
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My dad and stepmom are best friends with the mom of two of the girls Jennifer and Sarah. She doesn't discuss it, which is totally understandable and seems to have found a respectable amount of happiness in her life through all the pain and grief.
porchdawg
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It's got to be hard on the parents that this keeps coming to the surface and can't be put to rest. Thoughts and prayers for them.. I hope there will eventually be closure both ways.
Atty_Ag
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I remember it well. It happened the year I moved to Austin. Some say it was a crime that affected all of Austin. It made me realize that Austin had become a large city. The city, at least to me, certainly felt different afterwards.
Burdizzo
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I went to high school with a girl who was also employed there when these murders happened. She left the store a couple of hours before it took place. It was a very traumatic for here, and like everyone else, she does not talk about it.
texashornfan
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This is the first time I've heard about this since I don't live near Austin and I certainly hope the affected families find peace. From the tone of this thread, it sounds like the case has never been entirely closed. Would anyone care to elaborate. If so, much appreciated. If not, understandable.
O'Doyle Rules
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogurt_Shop_Murders
nbbob
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I found this article pretty interesting:

http://www.mackwhite.com/Yogurt1.html
porchdawg
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A friend of mine is an attorney who has been involved in the case for several years - based on the details he IS at liberty to discuss, he confirms that the thing is just an enormous C-F and has been since day one.

The sad thing is that not only were young girls murdered and family's lives shattered, but it's entirely possible that other people may have had their lives destroyed due to the way this has been handled. Chances are there will never be closure in this one.

What a mess - again, I feel for the families - all of them.
texashornfan
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Many thanks for the links. Certainly a sad story. I can't imagine these families looking for closure for so long.
PLUM LOCO
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It made me realize that Austin had become a large city.


If you were a little older Charles Whitman would have already reminded of that.

My thoughts are with these poor familes.
O'Doyle Rules
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nbob...that article was extremely interesting no doubt
Bunk Moreland
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it's been a while since i've invested as much time into thinking about those murders as I just did reading that article...

and it's easy to go JFK and claim conspiracy after reading that, so you don't want to just start throwing things out there, but there's a reason everything has been screwed up from the start.

I fear nobody will ever hear the reason.
BQ78
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Interesting but not very believable-- an insurance fraud, no way.
Bunk Moreland
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I agree BQ about it being a stretch, but if the stepfather of 2 of the girls was involved in any way...then it wouldn't be a stretch at all.

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n a previous interview posted on the AntiShyster.com website, Moebius stated that the stepfather of the Harbison sisters may have been such a participating plaintiff.

"If [he] was 'plaintiff participating,'" says Moebius, "he would allow the claims of the Harbison children, and even his claim and his wife's claim, to be used to launder enormous sums of reserve fraud moneys out of the reserve accounts held by the mutuals."

In Moebius' opinion, the stepfather's movements prior to the murders were highly suspicious. Moebius told this writer: "This murder was about betrayal and power. Minutes before the murder began, . . . the stepfather of two of the murder victims, dropped the youngest victims off at the site. In subsequent statements, [he] explained that the girls had been dropped off to help with the clean-up as they were on their way to a movie. There are no movies at that time in that area. [He] subsequently stated that the two youngest were dropped at the site to help with the clean-up. Yet [he] dropped the two youngest off, turn around and left. If you bring two girls to the site to turn a ten-minute clean-up into a five-minute clean up, why leave? Not one of the parents were looking for their daughters that late Friday night. That is inconceivable to me. These murders took place after closing time on a Friday night. Nine times out of ten, it could be expected that parents, grandparents, brothers or sisters, someone would show up. And the use of multiple victims would grossly enhance that probability. All of these girls had parents."


I don't know. I just wish it wouldn't have been so mishandled from the start. It's going to live on in Austin lore, and not for a good reason.
Atty_Ag
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I'd sooner believe 9/11 was an inside job than that convoluted mess of a theory on that web site.
porchdawg
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...so you don't want to just start throwing things out there, but there's a reason everything has been screwed up from the start.



Gross incompetence has ways of making conspiracy theorists out of all of us
Bunk Moreland
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I'm not saying I believe the site.

It's just an interesting take on the whole situation.
porchdawg
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I was just ribbing you a little JP...

One has to think that the authorities were just REALLY slow to realize the enormity of the situation as it unfolded - the biggest issue that I've heard was a failure to secure the crime scene in the first hour or so after bodies were discovered. Probably because no one was expecting to find something that horrific (remember, these were the days BEFORE CSI and all of us becoming armchair forensic experts ). At first, I'm sure the FD just thought it was nothing but a routine fire in a business that had already closed for the night - even when bodies were discovered, everyone was just slow to react and the crime scene became a bit of zoo before someone had the sense to lock it down.

Even IF the true perpetrator(s) have been or ever are found, there is enough reasonable doubt to cloud the whole thing forever. There's the REAL injustice unfortunately. (God forbid that there be any truth to the "conspiracy"!)

Again - feel for the families

JMHO
Bunk Moreland
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yeah, it's brutal all the way around.

And now they've ruined other's lives in efforts for a "conviction" and not "justice"
confucius_ag
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I knew Sarah and Jennifer.
We used to run around with them at the stock show.
Saddest funeral I have ever been to.
Hope I never have to go to something like that again.
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