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Macy's Debacle - What went wrong [Staff Edit OP]

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[We are going to keep this thread on topic about Macy's. -Staff]


OK, I had some time to read the emails that @Brian Alg got from the ORR. It's here - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uZ_dEYQ7ZXkRi903luiuwSCTDJb5wGc9/view?usp=drive_link

I don't want to continue to derail Mr. Yancy's thread about what to do to fix this very expensive problem. So, here's a thread about- 1) What went wrong and 2) who's responsible and should be held accountable.

To that end, here's what I pieced together:

Local businessman had plans to buy and turn Macy's into an entertainment center. 100,000 square feet of fun. Arcade, Bowling, roller rink, *ESPORTS ARENA*, etc. Wanted to buy it and *gasp* pay taxes. He presented his idea to CoCS economic development folks - NR and BP. Surely the city wants a destination like this! TAX MONEY! Bring folks from out of town.

You'd be dead wrong. Instead, the city decided they wanted the building. They let the seller know they wanted it, and the seller gave him the cold shoulder, effectively killing his deal, and despite him calling the city out on stealing his idea, they gave him the cold shoulder and didn't make it right.

See, CoCS wanted Macy's and Beal's, and connecting small stores in the mall, paying a proposed $7.3M for Macy's, and an additional $4M for Beall's. Party A was selling Macy's, CBL was selling Beall's. Their vision was a combo eSports arena *AND* wait for it … Rec Center (my money is on YMCA type place.)

CoCS was simultaneously dealing with TAMU esports - their proposal was $12/sq ft., plus NNN. They wanted 50,000 square feet, at a clip of $600k+ per year. The catch is, TAMU were interested in 50,000 sq ft of the whole enchilada, not just Macy's. The city bought Macy's greatly overpaying for it, and negotiations with the mall over Beall's fell through, as they didn't want to throw in the connecting space (the "spite strip" as NR called it.) This broke down, and TAMU pulled out, leaving the taxpayers holding the bag. Oh, yeah, to fix the Macy's? Over $1M (see email attached). NR "retired" from the City (BP's words) shortly after it all crashed, and rolled down the hill on fire.

Now, I get the feeling reading these emails that it's all just Monopoly money for BW, NR, and BP.

There has to be some kind of accountability for this *very expensive* boondoggle. I don't know about legality of all this, but it sure looked like Enron / investment bank types of deals to me.

The blame for this should be widespread IMHO, to NR, BP, and BW, as I kept seeing their signatures on the MOUs, LOIs, etc. these people need to be held accountable for this huge gamble that went south so freaking badly it's not even funny.

Oh, the City needs to be accountable for "making it right" with JL. Whether that's a public apology, or what I don't know, but I expect my elected officials and city staff to deal on the up and up with local business owners who want to invest millions into the city. Mr. Yancy, the pickleball is in your court.

Now, it's late, and maybe I read something wrong. Feel free to correct me. This is my opinion looking through a pile of emails.

TL;DR - city officials sniped a local guy who wanted a Dave and Buster's type place in the Macy's. They bought it to cobble together with Beall's and and get a rec center and eSports place they'd rent for $600k+. The deal for Beall's went sideways and the Development person "retired", but there's no evidence showing this debacle was the cause.




Hornbeck
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Additional emails.







Justin2010
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What a mess.
CS78
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Wouldn't be so bad if the average simpleton couldnt see this coming a mile ahead.
happyinBCS
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Unbelivable
This is taxpayer money, and they are acting like a big developer that knows what they are doing and all the while they are mid-level city employees with little to no expertise
Sickening
MsDoubleD81
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Thank you for pulling this together!
91_Aggie
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BW also leading charge to get rid of Northgate.
Independence H-D
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Just another example of the council/employees of the people's republic of College Station believing they are smarter than everyone else.

Thanks to the OP for doing the research. Local news could take some notes.....

CoCS......

Get the hell outta this. Admit the error of your ways. Take your lumps.

and please.....

Learn the lesson this time.
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Thank you for pulling this together!


No problem. If I got some things wrong, then if someone knows, please speak up.

I'd like to see some accountability over this. Perhaps our local media will pick this up (doubtful). Perhaps some people still at the city who signed off on this will be taken to task.
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The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away.

Ronald Reagan
Hornbeck
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Since mods pulled Elite's post of these off the other thread, I'll drop these here.




happyinBCS
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Michael Ostrowski took over her (NR) position about a year ago

You think we should email him and see what he says?

My open records request last week was
What is the cost of ownership in real numbers, don't need a bunch of emails, just the amount of dollars this declining asset is costing us

per one of the emails the mold remediation and HVAC issues was over a million dollars 3 years ago
JP76
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So it was being originally being bought for 3.5 mil and the buyer had a side deal that was then selling off pad sites to the city for 3 mil leaving them with a 100k sq ft of commercial space for $500,000 ?
MsDoubleD81
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Natalie Ruiz was one of the presenters for the 23 story high-rise on the Northgate parking lot debacle. With Capstone???
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MsDoubleD81 said:

Natalie Ruiz was one of the presenters for the 23 story high-rise on the Northgate parking lot debacle. With Capstone???


Ding! Ding! Ding!

Let's all be sure to listen to her sage advice.

She should be barred from ever dealing with the city ever again.
happyinBCS
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yes, her LinkedIn page does not say where she is now but obviously there
MsDoubleD81
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I had to go back and watch that segment to make sure it was her. Yancy asked her at the end that if she was privy to discussion during her time with the city to information that contributed to their presentation and she said no.
Hornbeck
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I know if I made a multi-million dollar blunder like this, I'd be fired and not allowed to "retire".

@Brian Alg, I'm wondering is there's some criminal culpability being investigated here, and that's why they weren't forthcoming? Or is it that they just know this looks very, very bad.

How much did the mayor know about all this? What about BW (he put his autograph on a lot of the docs)? All questions I have, but unfortunately, they are trying to sweep this under the rug. What is the city going to do to take responsibility and make things right? "Aww, shucks" isn't going to cut it.

The people who really lost out here are the taxpayers. We could have had a great family entertainment venue. We could have reaped the value of that tax money coming in.
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Yep, tax dollars plus probably mall foot traffic.
DonHenley
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Between this and the city of Bryan getting involved in Briarcest and Phillips event center, not sure which city is trying to out stupid each other
tu ag
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This doesn't change anything unless:
1 - other voters see this (I can't even vote for COCS, I'm in the ETJ)
2 - accountability happens in some way.
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tu ag said:

This doesn't change anything unless:
1 - other voters see this (I can't even vote for COCS, I'm in the ETJ)
2 - accountability happens in some way.


I'm hoping *maybe* local media picks up on this, but I'm not very hopeful.
happyinBCS
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Jim Lewis is a good developer He is the managing partner of GGE ltd that owns the galleria and the other lease space on Briarcrest
MsDoubleD81
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I wonder whose name was redacted and who is Charles Rhett?
Flatlander
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A packed audience at the next council meeting with a 100 people signed up to speak is one way to get people's attention.
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I plan on being there.
EliteElectric
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Yeah looks like mods nuked most all of my posts from the other thread.

[We removed the entire derail and your posts were part of it. -Staff]

As a side note, when government is completely transparent, we have nobody to blame but ourselves. When government is deceptive, or hides facts, we have not gone over the falls by our own hands, we did it unknowingly at the hands of others.
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EliteElectric said:

Yeah looks like mods nuked most all of my posts from the other thread.

As a side note, when government is completely transparent, we have nobody to blame but ourselves. When government is deceptive, or hides facts, we have not gone over the falls by our own hands, we did it unknowingly at the hands of others.


Correct.
My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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Can someone fill me in on who the initials in OP belong to?
MsDoubleD81
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It will get picked up if enough people are signed up to speak.
happyinBCS
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We need Rusty to read this thread
Hornbeck
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Yes, that's why I put up the JL email calling NR out for messing up his deal. I was doing the baseball thing last night, and it took me a while sifting through all that on my iPad.

Full disclosure - I'm a Libertarian. But, I'm old enough, and have been around the block enough to realize that unchecked libertarianism is sometimes a very bad thing.

Gordon Gecko said in "Wall Street", that greed is good. Things like Enron teach us that's not always the case. Completely unregulated electricity markets led to Enron (who owned a number of power plants) to suddenly take those plants offline, causing brownouts and spiking prices (they benefitted from those spikes). They participated in the energy trading market. Then, they'd bring their plants back online, congesting and oversupplying the power grid, and charge California for removing that power, making more money.

In that situation, this all came to light after some accounting lies were uncovered, causing the banks to stop the money spigot for Enron. The feds came in, shut everything down, and investigated everything. Several folks went to jail over their very criminal activities (wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud, etc.)

I want to know, who knew what and when. That shouldn't be something hidden. The city government in CS is not operating on the "up and up" from the evidence I've seen. Someone(s) need to be held liable and accountable.
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Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

Can someone fill me in on who the initials in OP belong to?


Username checks out.

Read the emails. The initials are there.
EliteElectric
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just an FYI I lean Libertarian as well, I always describe myself as a Ron Paul/ Ronald Reagan hybrid
MsDoubleD81
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How long does it take to get something on the council agenda? It's my understanding it takes a while. BW was chomping at the bit.



 
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