Can Post Oak Mall be saved?

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tb9665
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Bring back a Hall of Fame. Plenty of parking. Put a little arena in it too.
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The Sports Illustrated College Town Resort is the way. See War Eagle's post above.




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Andrew Dufresne said:

Manchu Wok been holding the food court down since the 90s
Taste of the Tropics has done their part, as well.
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Lest we FORGET the Bath & Bodyworks holiday sale!
maroon barchetta
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Man I can't walk into that place without getting a headache. I don't know how anybody works there. The fragrances are overpowering.
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They definitely need to reduce the tacky kiosks and disallow sales techniques like aggressively targeting passerby.

As to the point of my original post I say a wholehearted "Yes, it can be saved but needs improvement."
maroon barchetta
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I was referencing Bath & Body only. If the rest of the mall smells I haven't noticed.
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Rezone the City. Require all nail salons and vape shops to reside inside the walls of Post Oak Mall.
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Will Murdoch's have access into the mall or just exterior doors? It doesn't help the mall's cause when people can't get into stores except from outside and then they can't go into the mall once in anchor stores without leaving the store.
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Captn_Ag05 said:

Will Murdoch's have access into the mall or just exterior doors? It doesn't help the mall's cause when people can't get into stores except from outside and then they can't go into the mall once in anchor stores without leaving the store.
Based on Conn's only opening in half of the old Sears doors, it would appear so...but I'm not 100% sure.
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Has anyone suggested clean it out & paint Pickle ball courts everywhere so we can play in air conditioned comfort not in the Texas heat?
Bob Yancy
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Yes we have received that request. Seems awkward to me. Am I wrong?
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No.
maroon barchetta
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Captn_Ag05 said:

No.


This.
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Still the plan - fundraising has been slow from what I've been told.
PS3D
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Based on some maps from CBL's website I was screwing around with some ideas. Couldn't fit in a "fieldhouse" anchor with the current idea but I think that some re-tenanting and reduction of store space might be a plus.


my map

I also included the original if you want to play mall re-designer.

original

edit: change to raw links because TexAgs isn't behaving nice
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Hockey arena!
Illuminati Overlord
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Why save it? Redevelop all of it into a new golf course joint venture with the university and city, removing Holleman between Dartmouth and 6, along with some of the apartments.

Then the university can redevelop the current golf course into a downtown like mixed use development, sharing half the tax revenue with the city.
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Username checks out.
Illuminati Overlord
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Just build a new mall on the north end of University, and east end of Highway 6 if the area really needs an indoor mall.
Mister Shipwreck
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Several years ago, there were a few articles predicting that 1/2 f the malls in the USA would be closed by 2025. I think we are on our way to close to that.

It is a shame how many have shut down not too far from here.

I went to West Oaks Mall a few months ago - I was surprised to see that one shut down. Houston has others that are shut down too.
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New malls are being built though. Century Square is essentially a mall and appears to be thriving. Malls just need to evolve.
Rexter
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They should just use the Macy's spot for the YMCA. If Mayor Moonbeam says it isn't good enough, then there isn't a need for a Y.
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Rexter said:

They should just use the Macy's spot for the YMCA. If Mayor Moonbeam says it isn't good enough, then there isn't a need for a Y.

I think the possible uses for that space will be limited by the vertical support columns throughout the building (among other things, probably). Can't really have basketball or pickleball courts with columns every 20 or so feet.
Andrew Dufresne
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Post Oak Mall isn't what it once was, not even close, but it isn't as dead as many like to portray it as. It can still get busy at times.
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I liked being able to shop without having to go outside from store to store in the heat or rain.
Bob Yancy
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Agreed
Andrew Dufresne
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I'm over here getting all nostalgic thinking about the mall in the 90's. I remember they used to have that big play area in the middle of the food court. There used to be a McDonald's in there as well. My mom would always get me the classic 2 cheeseburger meal while we were in there shopping for school clothes.

I loved going into Sam Goody and KB Toys.

Good times.
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How did us Texans get duped into thinking indoor malls needed to be abandoned in favor of outdoor concrete hellscapes called "outlet malls"?

I can't think of a worse experience than walking between stores in the blazing sun getting drenched with sweat and then needing to try on clothes.
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Andrew Dufresne said:

Post Oak Mall isn't what it once was, not even close, but it isn't as dead as many like to portray it as. It can still get busy at times.


I was there today. It's pretty bad. Not very clean either.
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wareagle044 said:

Andrew Dufresne said:

Post Oak Mall isn't what it once was, not even close, but it isn't as dead as many like to portray it as. It can still get busy at times.


I was there today. It's pretty bad. Not very clean either.



Agree. That place is bad. Bath and Body seems to kill it (at least in Nov and Dec). The anchor stores seem to be mailing it in. None of the anchor stores have done any kind of reno/upgrade since they opened like 40 years ago. Again, no innovation.
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Part of the problem (a big problem, really) is CBL's lack of interest in maintenance or coaxing interesting tenants in, and a good part of the 2000s was spent raising rents and driving long-term tenants, including higher-end, local establishments out. Stores like Scripture Haven and Taste of the Tropics are last of a kind.

The other problem is demographics and demand. There's no reason to redevelop the mall as an outdoor center if there's the same low-end apartments around it (most malls that are redeveloped into high-end "districts" are in nice parts of town...otherwise it just gets torn down for Walmart and friends).

I think the city needs to step in and take a role in the mall. It bugs me how people here condemn the City of College Station for buying the Macy's building while Bryan engages in selling out parkland to developers.

I believe there are lease agreements for retail only in the mall (Don't quote me on that). It shouldn't just be repealed...I don't want to see anchor spaces leased by the university or some fly-by-night call center, but it needs something that's retail-adjacent (and integrated with the main mall).
CBL is broke, but even if they weren't, you can't just bring in tenants, the tenants have to want to be there and good tenants don't want to be in a 50 year old dying mall in secondary markets. About half of the malls in the US will be gone in 5-10 years, and the ones that remain will be high end ones located in major cities. Repurposing them is more expensive than the value that they create so developers do things like build a Century Square.
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1939 said:

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Part of the problem (a big problem, really) is CBL's lack of interest in maintenance or coaxing interesting tenants in, and a good part of the 2000s was spent raising rents and driving long-term tenants, including higher-end, local establishments out. Stores like Scripture Haven and Taste of the Tropics are last of a kind.

The other problem is demographics and demand. There's no reason to redevelop the mall as an outdoor center if there's the same low-end apartments around it (most malls that are redeveloped into high-end "districts" are in nice parts of town...otherwise it just gets torn down for Walmart and friends).

I think the city needs to step in and take a role in the mall. It bugs me how people here condemn the City of College Station for buying the Macy's building while Bryan engages in selling out parkland to developers.

I believe there are lease agreements for retail only in the mall (Don't quote me on that). It shouldn't just be repealed...I don't want to see anchor spaces leased by the university or some fly-by-night call center, but it needs something that's retail-adjacent (and integrated with the main mall).
CBL is broke, but even if they weren't, you can't just bring in tenants, the tenants have to want to be there and good tenants don't want to be in a 50 year old dying mall in secondary markets. About half of the malls in the US will be gone in 5-10 years, and the ones that remain will be high end ones located in major cities. Repurposing them is more expensive than the value that they create so developers do things like build a Century Square.
CBL shirking their duties is a huge part of why the mall sucks. Printed directories got cut years ago, maintenance slipped, and overall they aren't keeping the mall to the same standards it was even in the early to mid-2000s.
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Harvey Road is a dead zone as it relates to economic development. It has been for decades. It will never happen, so what I will say next is a waste of time, but all of those "old" apartment complexes from the 80's need to be razed.
"Gimme a diablo sandwhich and a dr. pepper...to go"
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