Personally,I think it's hideous

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maroon barchetta said:

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I think TENS of people will utilize that fiscally conservative expenditure.

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I was trying to figure out how people would utilize a sign... then I saw the I in the sign is hollow... is the purpose of this thing for people to stand in the I and then have someone take a picture????

Please tell me i am wrong.

You have to be standing so far back to get the whole sign in the picture that you won't be able to recognize the person standing in the I part.

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And where exactly is it going to be easy to park to ummm utilize this sign?

This is quality feedback. Thanks. I serve on the compensation and benefits committee and strongly supported one of the largest pay increases in years at 6% across the board. Paramedic step pay was doubled and I fought like hell for more, as well as a 6th police officer. We're not there yet. Police are stretched thin and compensation and work life balance need more attention. The fight continues. Stay tuned.

There is a 120 space parking lot 50 feet away.

Bob, please tell me a local company was hired to manufacture and install that Instagram prop.

And how many city employees are regularly parked there?

Bob Yancy said:

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I'm almost afraid to ask, but what do you folks think about this? Full disclosure: I think it's neat, helps with branding and identity, and yes, I supported and voted for it…I'll hunker down in my foxhole now and standby for incoming…

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Wow that is bad. Y'all really thought this was a good idea?

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Bob Yancy said:

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I'm almost afraid to ask, but what do you folks think about this? Full disclosure: I think it's neat, helps with branding and identity, and yes, I supported and voted for it…I'll hunker down in my foxhole now and standby for incoming…

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Wow that is bad. Y'all really thought this was a good idea?

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Since the board of regents voted last year to name Bryan AND College Station as the "home of Texas A&M," College Station has been trying hard to differentiate themselves. If you notice, the new water tower by rock Prairie says "Welcome to College Station The Heart of Aggieland." Then they made City Hall match Kyle Field, and now they have this thing out on the lawn.

Bryan recently approved a new water tower design - The Birthplace of Aggieland



https://wtaw.com/bryan-city-council-makes-preliminary-choices-for-logos-of-a-new-westside-water-tower/

And, they are installing new welcome monuments in two locations.



https://wtaw.com/bryan-city-council-receives-updates-on-new-gateway-monument-signs-and-traffic-signals/

Bob Yancy said:

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This is quality feedback. Thanks. I serve on the compensation and benefits committee and strongly supported one of the largest pay increases in years at 6% across the board. Paramedic step pay was doubled and I fought like hell for more, as well as a 6th police officer. We're not there yet. Police are stretched thin and compensation and work life balance need more attention. The fight continues. Stay tuned.

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Is it true that the new PD doesn't have a holding cell and that officers are required to provide their own transport to county? This seems like it would stretch the department thin on any given night depending on intake volume?

Bob Yancy said:

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I'm not saying this is the same thing, but this debate reminds me so much of something. Back in 2010, there was this wonderful organization here. They'd been around awhile. For years they kept their head down and did a great job. Nothing flashy. Then they had a vision. The vision was a commitment to this community. The vision was to build a state of the art hospital and medical campus. "This town will never support another hospital," many said. "There's better use for that land," they exclaimed.

Today, the parking lot is full, a thousand+ people have fantastic jobs and they're in the middle of a $90 million expansion. They're part of the largest nonprofit health system in Texas and the most awarded health system in the country, according to US News & World Report.

And the quality of life, and health, for an entire community improved.

Totally different scenario. Agreed. Feels familiar, all the same. I repose the question: "Exactly how big are we going to get in Brazos County and STILL not have a convention center?"

300,000 population? (2027) Half a million? What's the number?

Respectfully.

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One is a need, the other is a want

Oh, Dennis Maloney has probably blown a few gaskets over Brayn's new designs.

Back in February 2021, Maloney said College Station "We are Aggieland, and we are home of Texas A&M University. And stopping the disinformation that is being propagated by competing cities."

https://wtaw.com/college-station-councilman-takes-offense-at-bryan-saying-they-are-the-home-of-texas-am/

Bob Yancy said:

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I'm almost afraid to ask, but what do you folks think about this? Full disclosure: I think it's neat, helps with branding and identity, and yes, I supported and voted for it…I'll hunker down in my foxhole now and standby for incoming…

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How exactly does this fall under "fiscally conservative"? Even if it's only $85k, that $85k could be used elsewhere, maybe hire a crossing guard? Something other than building something else that has to be maintained.

Maybe your definition of fiscally conservative and mine is radically different? From my standpoint continuing to build more and more window dressing does not fall into that category.

Bob Yancy said:

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I'm almost afraid to ask, but what do you folks think about this? Full disclosure: I think it's neat, helps with branding and identity, and yes, I supported and voted for it…I'll hunker down in my foxhole now and standby for incoming…

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This is both gaudy and ugly.

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Bob Yancy said:

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I'm almost afraid to ask, but what do you folks think about this? Full disclosure: I think it's neat, helps with branding and identity, and yes, I supported and voted for it…I'll hunker down in my foxhole now and standby for incoming…

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This These is are both gaudy and ugly.

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FIFY

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Oh, Dennis Maloney has probably blown a few gaskets over Brayn's new designs.

Back in February 2021, Maloney said College Station "We are Aggieland, and we are home of Texas A&M University. And stopping the disinformation that is being propagated by competing cities."

https://wtaw.com/college-station-councilman-takes-offense-at-bryan-saying-they-are-the-home-of-texas-am/

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Uhh Bryan was the closest town that was next to the university that was in a field in the middle of nowhere. Bryan had the stores, train stop, post office and everything else that the college needed to survive. There was nothing else in "college station". College station was incorporated in 1938. The railroad gave the college a stop in 1883, 7 years after classes were first held and that was called "college station".

For example - Old Lou class of 32 created a living from lazy people that didn't want to go into Bryan by first creating a store in his dorm room and later the spot where the chicken is now and finally to final location just down the way on north gate no longer in existence.

I like that Bryan is part of the history of Texas A&M and for that matter college station and I can't believe that anyone would think differently and say they weren't. Bryan like it or not will always and continue to be part of Texas A&M history.

These people need to get along and work together.

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HWY6_RunsBothWays said:

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Oh, Dennis Maloney has probably blown a few gaskets over Brayn's new designs.

Back in February 2021, Maloney said College Station "We are Aggieland, and we are home of Texas A&M University. And stopping the disinformation that is being propagated by competing cities."

https://wtaw.com/college-station-councilman-takes-offense-at-bryan-saying-they-are-the-home-of-texas-am/

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Uhh Bryan was the closest town that was next to the university that was in a field in the middle of nowhere. Bryan had the stores, train stop, post office and everything else that the college needed to survive. There was nothing else in "college station". College station was incorporated in 1938. The railroad gave the college a stop in 1883, 7 years after classes were first held and that was called "college station".

For example - Old Lou class of 32 created a living from lazy people that didn't want to go into Bryan by first creating a store in his dorm room and later the spot where the chicken is now and finally to final location just down the way on north gate no longer in existence.

I like that Bryan is part of the history of Texas A&M and for that matter college station and I can't believe that anyone would think differently and say they weren't. Bryan like it or not will always and continue to be part of Texas A&M history.

These people need to get along and work together.

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Well said.

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HWY6_RunsBothWays said:

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Oh, Dennis Maloney has probably blown a few gaskets over Brayn's new designs.

Back in February 2021, Maloney said College Station "We are Aggieland, and we are home of Texas A&M University. And stopping the disinformation that is being propagated by competing cities."

https://wtaw.com/college-station-councilman-takes-offense-at-bryan-saying-they-are-the-home-of-texas-am/

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Uhh Bryan was the closest town that was next to the university that was in a field in the middle of nowhere. Bryan had the stores, train stop, post office and everything else that the college needed to survive. There was nothing else in "college station". College station was incorporated in 1938. The railroad gave the college a stop in 1883, 7 years after classes were first held and that was called "college station".

For example - Old Lou class of 32 created a living from lazy people that didn't want to go into Bryan by first creating a store in his dorm room and later the spot where the chicken is now and finally to final location just down the way on north gate no longer in existence.

I like that Bryan is part of the history of Texas A&M and for that matter college station and I can't believe that anyone would think differently and say they weren't. Bryan like it or not will always and continue to be part of Texas A&M history.

These people need to get along and work together.

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Sewer line
EMS/fire responses

Just two off the top of my head that shows one side is not great at working with others.

maroon barchetta said:

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whoop1995 said:

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HWY6_RunsBothWays said:

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Oh, Dennis Maloney has probably blown a few gaskets over Brayn's new designs.

Back in February 2021, Maloney said College Station "We are Aggieland, and we are home of Texas A&M University. And stopping the disinformation that is being propagated by competing cities."

https://wtaw.com/college-station-councilman-takes-offense-at-bryan-saying-they-are-the-home-of-texas-am/

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Uhh Bryan was the closest town that was next to the university that was in a field in the middle of nowhere. Bryan had the stores, train stop, post office and everything else that the college needed to survive. There was nothing else in "college station". College station was incorporated in 1938. The railroad gave the college a stop in 1883, 7 years after classes were first held and that was called "college station".

For example - Old Lou class of 32 created a living from lazy people that didn't want to go into Bryan by first creating a store in his dorm room and later the spot where the chicken is now and finally to final location just down the way on north gate no longer in existence.

I like that Bryan is part of the history of Texas A&M and for that matter college station and I can't believe that anyone would think differently and say they weren't. Bryan like it or not will always and continue to be part of Texas A&M history.

These people need to get along and work together.

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Sewer line
EMS/fire responses

Just two off the top of my head that shows one side is not great at working with others.

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Great things can happen when they do work together. For example, Bryan and College Station probably have the lowest landfill disposal rates in the country:

https://wtaw.com/update-on-twin-oaks-landfill-operations/

Maybe they can learn from this success and apply it to other areas?

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Bob Yancy said:

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Jeez man. First of all those stories are years old! Secondly, I worked at City Hall starting in 1992 and we were stuffed in that building even then.

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Are the news articles factual? If yes, what's the issue? One is from 2023, one from 2020, and one from 2019.

Rather than building a $39M Taj Mahal, the city could have moved some personnel to the old police department building rather than leasing it to IL Texas.

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Or sold the land on Texas avenue for a mint, built it on land they own on Krenek Tap and more than payed for O&M with the tax revenues. Instead, they have locked up some of the most valuable real estate in town to be tax free in perpetuity.

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Bob Yancy said:

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I'm not saying this is the same thing, but this debate reminds me so much of something. Back in 2010, there was this wonderful organization here. They'd been around awhile. For years they kept their head down and did a great job. Nothing flashy. Then they had a vision. The vision was a commitment to this community. The vision was to build a state of the art hospital and medical campus. "This town will never support another hospital," many said. "There's better use for that land," they exclaimed.

Today, the parking lot is full, a thousand+ people have fantastic jobs and they're in the middle of a $90 million expansion. They're part of the largest nonprofit health system in Texas and the most awarded health system in the country, according to US News & World Report.

And the quality of life, and health, for an entire community improved.

Totally different scenario. Agreed. Feels familiar, all the same. I repose the question: "Exactly how big are we going to get in Brazos County and STILL not have a convention center?"

300,000 population? (2027) Half a million? What's the number?

Respectfully.

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And it canibalized The Med in the process.

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That it did. Although the Med was run by a corporation full of idiots.

That said, how much did the litigation with Weingarten associated with that tract cost the College Station Taxpayer? I guess much like the land parcels the city recently sold, it gets washed out because the hospital ended up there? How about this novel idea? Let's see the city not commit massive blunders that need to be purportedly "canceled out" by profits later from land sales? This is like my daughter saying the dress she paid too much for and never wore, was offset by the next dress she bought at clearance for 80% off. SMH, these people really do forget who they work for at all levels of government in this country.

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Not even sure it is that good. My understanding is that the hospital is a non-profit so doesn't pay any taxes on the land. So, by the nimbys chasing off Weingarten (aka Walmart), not only did they lose a lawsuit, they lost the opportunity to have them pay for the Rock Prairie Bridge over 6 as well as all the taxes that would have come from full commercial use of all that land. Hmm, seems like a pattern (see my other post above) that leads to citizen (or at least MyBCS) suspicion of the City's ability to make sound investments.

Bob, I think I can sum up what most people are saying on here. In the words of Bud Kilmer, "Stick to the BASICS!". Don't try to get cute/fancy. Just provide what a city government should and leave the rest to private entities.

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Bob, I think I can sum up what most people are saying on here. In the words of Bud Kilmer, "Stick to the BASICS!". Don't try to get cute/fancy. Just provide what a city government should and leave the rest to private entities.

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THIS is an example of "fiscally conservative"… just saying… when you tell people you're "fiscally conservative" this is what we hear, and vote for. I won't make that mistake with my ballot twice.

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Bob Yancy said:

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Jeez man. First of all those stories are years old! Secondly, I worked at City Hall starting in 1992 and we were stuffed in that building even then.

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Are the news articles factual? If yes, what's the issue? One is from 2023, one from 2020, and one from 2019.

Rather than building a $39M Taj Mahal, the city could have moved some personnel to the old police department building rather than leasing it to IL Texas.

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Or sold the land on Texas avenue for a mint, built it on land they own on Krenek Tap and more than payed for O&M with the tax revenues. Instead, they have locked up some of the most valuable real estate in town to be tax free in perpetuity.

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But then they don't get the full effect of a "LOOK AT ME!!!!!" building since Krenek Tap doesn't get as much traffic.

Big shocker they put an Instagram prop in front of their attention desiring building.

Hi, KBTX!

We are glad you pushed this important story out today after finding it here, instead of waiting your usual five days!!

https://www.kbtx.com/2023/08/18/city-college-station-unveils-new-photo-opporunity/

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I'm not sure what you'd have me do about a 2009 land deal. I wasn't on council then. I am now, though, and you and the rest of my bosses have done very very well liquidating municipal land holdings to the private sector since November. I'm looking forward to that report. I can only hope it's met with your approval, keep doing my job, and try to have a vision for our future that you can support.

Respectfully

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Tell us more about Macy's.

I wasn't on council for Macy's and would not have supported it. But that's the past. The job now is making it a winner for the taxpayer, one way or the other.

Is there a city Webcam setup to watch the I heart aggieland sign and count how many people actually use it?

I mean who is going to be just driving by and seeing it on Texas Avenue and say "oh we need to turn around and go back and get a picture with that... oh damn, now we have to figure out how to Uturn back to get to it with all these medians... ahh forget it!"

That type of thing needs to be where people are already going or has foot traffic. City hall doesn't have that except for people doing business.

So you see our distrust about the city making wise decisions with our money. This was someone's pet project that had no study or planning done other than "Wow I think this is neat!"

Which is the vibe we get from the wanting a convention center. "Hey it would be neat to have concerts and comedians... let's build a convention center!" And then someone on a local forum with less than 5 minutes of research explains why you will never get big names here.

But of course the city moves forward with what will probably be a rubber stamped study.

Shhh…

City Council < Logic

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Bob Yancy said:

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This is quality feedback. Thanks. I serve on the compensation and benefits committee and strongly supported one of the largest pay increases in years at 6% across the board. Paramedic step pay was doubled and I fought like hell for more, as well as a 6th police officer. We're not there yet. Police are stretched thin and compensation and work life balance need more attention. The fight continues. Stay tuned.

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Is it true that the new PD doesn't have a holding cell and that officers are required to provide their own transport to county? This seems like it would stretch the department thin on any given night depending on intake volume?

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You are correct, CSPD does not have a holding cell. All those detained are sent to the Brazos County jail.

Someone needs to invent a non-intrusive test to see if someone is actually high. We can debate if 0.08% BAC is actually drunk. But it does show that someone would have consumed alcohol fairly recently.

I believe, if you are driving, at work, operating any type of equipment you should not be high. Since THC stays in your system for a while, is there a way to tell if someone consumed at lunch on Monday or over the weekend when they were off duty?

I think a test like that (and could hold up in court) would help make it 50 state legal in a heartbeat.

Mr Yancy,

Enhancements of northgate bars and football stadiums won't draw non-Ag corporations here to host conferences, no matter what Taj Mahal conference center gets built. Good grief man. Unless you are a hard core Aggie sports fan, what the hell do you think will draw people here for? Bluebonnets? Santa's Wonderland? George Bush library?

Seriously - it's embarrassing as hell when a non-Aggie colleague comes to visit BCS and asks what they can do in the off days. I'm like "sh*t bro, stay in Houston or Austin an extra day or so".

And you guys can only think of building a new conference center? What's next? Another research center?

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wareagle044 said:

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Bob Yancy said:

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This is quality feedback. Thanks. I serve on the compensation and benefits committee and strongly supported one of the largest pay increases in years at 6% across the board. Paramedic step pay was doubled and I fought like hell for more, as well as a 6th police officer. We're not there yet. Police are stretched thin and compensation and work life balance need more attention. The fight continues. Stay tuned.

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Is it true that the new PD doesn't have a holding cell and that officers are required to provide their own transport to county? This seems like it would stretch the department thin on any given night depending on intake volume?

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You are correct, CSPD does not have a holding cell. All those detained are sent to the Brazos County jail.

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That big new police station has no holding cell?

In Cub Scouts in tiny Portland, TX in 1975 we took a visit to the Portland police department. They let us all take turns in the holding cell to see what it was like.

Amazing that a tiny town had a holding cell in their tiny police department building almost 50 years ago. Sounds like their city leaders planned ahead.

I've had a tour. Asked. No holding cell.
It was planned by: the then Police Chief, the city manager, and/or city council.
OR since the county jail is controlled by the Sheriff/County Commissioner Court…
Who knows the truth why the CSPD building has no holding cell.

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Mr Yancy,

Enhancements of northgate bars and football stadiums won't draw non-Ag corporations here to host conferences, no matter what Taj Mahal conference center gets built. Good grief man. Unless you are a hard core Aggie sports fan, what the hell do you think will draw people here for? Bluebonnets? Santa's Wonderland? George Bush library?

Seriously - it's embarrassing as hell when a non-Aggie colleague comes to visit BCS and asks what they can do in the off days. I'm like "sh*t bro, stay in Houston or Austin an extra day or so".

And you guys can only think of building a new conference center? What's next? Another research center?

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New "technology corridor" to bring in high tech jerbs…. Because the biotech one is just killing it.