CSISD Election

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chrisfield
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Based on the handful of examples given on this thread which has presumably been read by hundreds if not thousands of parents, it seems likely some of the things being focused on here are not a tremendously widespread thing in our district. This also aligns with my experience as a parent in the district (kids currently at intermediate, middle, and elementary currently). I also personally know dozens of teachers in the district none of whom would "push" any agenda regardless of their personal political beliefs. So no, I do not believe this is near the top of the list of the challenges facing our district for the next decade based on the data points I shared above.
Stupe
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Quote:

Based on the handful of examples given on this thread which has presumably been read by hundreds if not thousands of parents, it seems likely some of the things being focused on here are not a tremendously widespread thing in our district.
I would agree with that statement completely if it ended with "right now".

No, some of the the concerns that have been voiced on here may not be widespread right now. Five or ten years ago, they weren't widespread concerns in other districts. Now they are.
Look at Loudoun County in Virginia. How often has that been in the news over the past year?

The problem with using the "it's only a small problem" and not taking action is that it then becomes a large problem.

That goes for ANY issue.
rsa
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[That is not a school board level decision and is a State level decision. Thank you. -Staff]
HMIC
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Here's the video in August 2021 when McAdams goes on and on about wanting kids to be masked for the school year. Nolan is no better, but she's up for re-election next year….

So yes, McAdams wanted to keep masking and thought virtual school was a good option.

Mangan's got my vote.
cslifer
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I am curious if Mangan is ever going to come back and give us any specifics of actual plans and how she would execute them.
Vinewood_03
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She's provided her email and phone number.
KaneIsAble
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This thread went super political and as a casual observer it's pretty easy to tell who's a D and who's an R. You know her but y'all are hiding behind user names so I don't blame her for dropping out; she stated what she supports.
SCHTICK00
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KaneIsAble said:

This thread went super political and as a casual observer it's pretty easy to tell who's a D and who's an R. You know her but y'all are hiding behind user names so I don't blame her for dropping out; she stated what she supports.


It has become political and I think you'd be hard pressed to find an elected race that's not. But I'd say the main reason for the politicization is because teachers have become political in their classrooms
cslifer
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She threw out some talking points, but when asked pointed questions goes radio silent. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't or won't articulate actual plans?
chickencoupe16
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cslifer said:

She threw out some talking points, but when asked pointed questions goes radio silent. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't or won't articulate actual plans?
Sometimes, it is about voting for the lesser of two evils. If someone at least shares my values but I do not know their plans, I can at least hope with some certainty that they will match mine. But if their plans do not match mine AND their values do not match mine, they are clearly the worse of two evils.

This is more complicated in a 3 way race, but the concept is the same.
SCHTICK00
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cslifer said:

She threw out some talking points, but when asked pointed questions goes radio silent. Why would anyone vote for someone who can't or won't articulate actual plans?


Her website offers where her priorities are and where her heart is when making decisions. You just sound like you're looking for something to hang her with.
KaneIsAble
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Exactly.
cslifer
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It is a sad day when we should vote on "where someone's heart is" and not actual facts or well articulated plans and ideas. It is even more sad that asking questions of a candidate is "looking to hang them".
We are essentially hiring the candidates to do a job. If you were hiring someone to run a project and they could not answer specific questions you asked them would you hire them? Of course not, so why is this different?
SCHTICK00
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cslifer said:

It is a sad day when we should vote on "where someone's heart is" and not actual facts or well articulated plans and ideas. It is even more sad that asking questions of a candidate is "looking to hang them".
We are essentially hiring the candidates to do a job. If you were hiring someone to run a project and they could not answer specific questions you asked them would you hire them? Of course not, so why is this different?


Have you contacted her with the email she provided?
MS08
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SCHTICK00 said:

cslifer said:

It is a sad day when we should vote on "where someone's heart is" and not actual facts or well articulated plans and ideas. It is even more sad that asking questions of a candidate is "looking to hang them".
We are essentially hiring the candidates to do a job. If you were hiring someone to run a project and they could not answer specific questions you asked them would you hire them? Of course not, so why is this different?


Have you contacted her with the email she provided?


Yeah, please do not whine to us. If you are not comfortable with something reach out to the person who has clearly posted on here about them being available. She even said she would provide her number after being contacted. She is not going to engage further on this thread and that is right of her to do since she has made herself available through more private and professional means.
cslifer
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Why do you think I am whining to you or anyone on this board? I find it amusing that a candidate refuses to answer direct questions on a public forum. That is a massive red flag for many people, myself included.
AllTheFishes
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Ms. Magan is against "romanticize and push ideologies like CRT" but doesn't seem to understand that in Texas it's against the law to teach CRT. In fact the law is so extreme that even discussing actual historical events like our founding fathers owning slaves is against the law. But yet that's somehow an issue that needs to be addressed at the CSISD school board. I'm sorry, she doesn't sound like he has a clue what's actually being taught in a classroom.

I suspect she will get elected, go to her first board meeting and raise such subjects only to be told by the Superintendent that nothing she's talking about has any foundation in reality and then she will get board and be an empty seat.
MS08
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SCHTICK00 said:

KaneIsAble said:

This thread went super political and as a casual observer it's pretty easy to tell who's a D and who's an R. You know her but y'all are hiding behind user names so I don't blame her for dropping out; she stated what she supports.


It has become political and I think you'd be hard pressed to find an elected race that's not. But I'd say the main reason for the politicization is because teachers have become political in their classrooms


This. Generally, all elections of any kind, at any level, have political undertones. That is the way it has always been. Unfortunately, we have to deal with garbage issues and rogue ideals infiltrating the classroom that are far more detrimental to a kid's mind so they take center stage. If there is trash in my house the best thing to do is to take it out. It has become a thing because teachers and the school system crossed the line. Can't smoke til you're 18. Can't drive until you're 16. Can't drink until you're 21. But, sure let's discuss gender identity and sexual preference when you're younger than all of those ages…on something that is honestly far more important than all of those things?!? Get outta here! That's garbage! Even if it's one piece (teacher) lying around, it needs to be taken out. Doesn't belong in the house that is the school system!
SCHTICK00
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You must have missed the evidence I posted earlier in the thread substantiating Mangan's claims. Pictures of Consol classrooms this year. I can also fill you in on Xrated books on the AMCMS reading list last year. I won't post those pictures because I might get banned.
HMIC
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Really? I'm thinking it's you that is relatively uninformed. Last year my 11th grader was taught a book on the approved district list, but the teacher put her own liberal spin on it. She asked the white kids in the class to stand up and explain what their white privilege was. That was only the first day. I could go on. And I have copies of the slides. CRT and CRT-like is alive and well in our schools. You should probably be asking more questions. And no, the teacher no longer works in the district.
SCHTICK00
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aggiebiz said:

Really? I'm thinking it's you that is relatively uninformed. Last year my 11th grader was taught a book on the approved district list, but the teacher put her own liberal spin on it. She asked the white kids in the class to stand up and explain what their white privilege was. That was only the first day. I could go on. And I have copies of the slides. CRT and CRT-like is alive and well in our schools. You should probably be asking more questions. And no, the teacher no longer works in the district.


This is information I want to know. What happened and how it was dealt with.
Mr.Short-termMemory
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cslifer said:

Why do you think I am whining to you or anyone on this board? I find it amusing that a candidate refuses to answer direct questions on a public forum. That is a massive red flag for many people, myself included.
Do you feel the same way about the other two candidates, who have not availed themselves at all this forum? If not, why not? If so, will you just abstain from voting in this race?
VetSurg
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cslifer said:

Why do you think I am whining to you or anyone on this board? I find it amusing that a candidate refuses to answer direct questions on a public forum. That is a massive red flag for many people, myself included.
So, I assume you know the other candidates positions, plans and how they expect to implement them? Have either of them invited you to contact them personally?
MS08
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cslifer said:

Why do you think I am whining to you or anyone on this board? I find it amusing that a candidate refuses to answer direct questions on a public forum. That is a massive red flag for many people, myself included.


"I appreciate your concern regarding this race and would be happy to answer any questions. I feel very strongly that I am the only candidate in this race that possesses the fortitude to speak out and fight against the woke ideologies poisoning children.

I would be honored to have your support. The link posted above goes to my website, however you can email me directly at MorganManganBCS@gmail.com and I will share my cell number. Thank you."

This is her engaging on this thread: Making herself available. You've continually been asked by multiple posters on whether or not you have tried to contact her. Based on how you continue to post, and never have answered the question, we can all assume it is a "No."
TexAgs is a worthy place to dialogue and get information but it is hardly a formal public forum. She used it to reach out and connect with a broader audience but it should not be expected of her to jump into all of this back and forth. She got better things to do, like figure out how to address issues within the school system.
cslifer
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Surely even you see the irony of the last line of your post!
MS08
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TexAgs subscription is a write-off for me because of the various network opportunities it offers for my line of work. Also, I just finished wrapping up a 3-year project so I am taking some time to lay low while I continue to do a little of this and that. I am chilling and having fun on this thread. Gig Em!
BluHorseShu
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MS08 said:

SCHTICK00 said:

cslifer said:

It is a sad day when we should vote on "where someone's heart is" and not actual facts or well articulated plans and ideas. It is even more sad that asking questions of a candidate is "looking to hang them".
We are essentially hiring the candidates to do a job. If you were hiring someone to run a project and they could not answer specific questions you asked them would you hire them? Of course not, so why is this different?


Have you contacted her with the email she provided?


Yeah, please do not whine to us. If you are not comfortable with something reach out to the person who has clearly posted on here about them being available. She even said she would provide her number after being contacted. She is not going to engage further on this thread and that is right of her to do since she has made herself available through more private and professional means.
So if we want to know what the plans are for those running for office we have to contact them, privately/individually? Seems like if you had policy plans, you could easily broadcast them to the public. Sounds like a public office may not be the place for someone who isn't inclined to engage the public. People are getting too defensive about simply asking about a candidates plans. At least in Bryan our officials are engaging people in public forums. It certainly doesn't have to be on TexAgs (bc we all know how fast that can go south here), but I don't think it's unreasonable what was asked
billydean05
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No doubt after reading the COVID question in The Eagle Morgan Mangan has my vote.
BluHorseShu
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billydean05 said:

No doubt after reading the COVID question in The Eagle Morgan Mangan has my vote.
For all candidates, I always find their personal Facebook pages interesting. Especially when they claim to not have a background in politics. People may not have held a political office, but everyone is political to varying degrees. Peoples posts, likes etc can be helpful in getting to better understand candidates beyond just media soundbites
DavysApprentice
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AllTheFishes said:

Teachers are leaving and we can't recruit top candidates, that is the problem. Chris is correct, the number one issue our school board should be dealing with is teacher pay and quality of life issues.

A couple of anecdotes to prove the point.
An elementary school has a student teacher from A&M who was described to me as the best student teacher they have seen by the grade lead. The principles top recruiting goal was to get that student teacher on contract for the next year and was told no they would be going else where to teach and starting salary was a top reason given.

A long time high school teacher leaves the school district to take an at home remote job for a company in Houston for a raise in salary. They will have to buy out the rest of their retirement through TRS at a significantly higher rate because they are now paying into social security. The work isn't very fulfilling, certainly not the same as teaching, but being at home when their kids get home from school and not missing sports events and other family things because they are home grading papers sure makes up for it.


Teachers can go work for K-12 almost completely remotely and make 50k a year. Those teachers won't get TRS but they do get decent healthcare and have a significantly smaller workload.

It's really tough to compete with that for a traditional public school system. Not all teachers will like that kind of virtual work but a lot of the younger ones are more comfortable with learning and teaching through technology.

The teacher recruitment problem for public schools will be a huge issue for many years to come and I am not sure there is a viable solution honestly
Anna Molly
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SCHTICK00 said:

You must have missed the evidence I posted earlier in the thread substantiating Mangan's claims. Pictures of Consol classrooms this year. I can also fill you in on Xrated books on the AMCMS reading list last year. I won't post those pictures because I might get banned.
Not pictures, but can you post titles of books that CSISD is recommending or requiring 7th & 8th graders to read that are X rated? Or a link to the 7th/8th grade reading list? I remember when I was going into 9th there was a reading list and I only found out about it 2 weeks before school. Oops.
Another Doug
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For those with questions, I emailed Morgan a few questions and received detailed answers.
deh40
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cslifer said:

But getting back to what I said, let's talk about plans and qualifications! These are the things that really matter!
Quite honestly who cares what a teacher hangs outside their door? Hopefully we are raising our kids well enough to be able to filter through the BS
I do!
ukbb2003
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CSMS has a GSA (Gay Straight Alliance) after school club that is promoted during the announcements at the school.
happyinBCS
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