College Station is slow growth. Has been for years, even while everyone else struggles. It's a good thing compared to the crazy ups and downs seen elsewhere.
Is B-CS going through a recession?
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Last: 9 yr ago by dgonzo99
Bryan certainly has it's run down areas. I think the city is working on that, we all know where those areas are. For those who think tear down first, let's think about the middle-America neighborhoods that are 20-40 years old....they offer alot. Pretty well built homes in what would be considered enormous lots by today's standards. Basically a mile or so out on either side of Texas are areas that offer homes that can be remodeled, thus upgrading the neighborhoods, and the tax base. That would be a far better outcome then College Station with row after row of 4/4 that will be the new slums of the future.
Interested to see how the century square project
Plays out.
Plays out.
Does anyone know if the deal to move NASA's Backup Mission Control from Alabama to downtown Bryan ever happened? I know that the Bryan company TSTAR had something to do with it, but I have not heard much about it in a while.
quote:I'm sorry, but of all the outlandish things you have posted, this takes the cake.
It's not a bias, it's a developers decision on what will make a store successful. Walgreens and CVS are great examples. They want out of Bryan so bad they can't see straight.
quote:Brazos Bingo didn't want to move is the word I have heard. It brings in a ton of money. CVS definitely wanted a location there.quote:I always thought that CVS going there was a joke because people always say where there is a Walgreens, CVS will build near by.quote:quote:What??? The Walgreens across from Bryan High is one of the most profitable and its the only 24 hour Walgreens out of all the location in Bryan and College Station.
It's not a bias, it's a developers decision on what will make a store successful. Walgreens and CVS are great examples. They want out of Bryan so bad they can't see straight.
CVS did have plans for a new store in Bryan at the corner of Villa Maria and 2818 (north east corner), I don't know if that is still happening.
If what some of you are saying is true (retailers don't look at Bryan's Population) then Bryan could support a lot more retail and needs to start recruiting businesses to the Bryan side of the border.
Where's the CVS that was supposedly going to replace the old Safeway at Briarcrest and 29th?
Did you graduate Mays in 15? You sure do say a lot without providing any proof. Your extensive knowledge would be more credible with links, quotes or some sort of source. Additionally, it would be great if you knew the difference between then and than.
I doubt there will be links for what is likely proprietary information. That internship or project you worked on likely had a NDA. Careful, Bro.
Thanks guys! If Bryan is a dying city then Hearne is the fastest growing city in the world. It just doesn't make any since.
Our Lord Mayor is a real estate magnate. No way will be let our fair city die!
I don't feel like being sued by one of the largest developers in Houston. I was in the office today with a CVS Walgreens map and ALMOST took a picture to negate BS comments like these, until I realize if I took it to be an Internet tough guy, my employer would have me black balled.
PM if you want details. I've said enough proprietary info already. Those Walgreens rankings are no where near public info.
PM if you want details. I've said enough proprietary info already. Those Walgreens rankings are no where near public info.
I have a masters and Phd. I taught at A&M for multiple years. The attempt to correlate a user name to age eco it's the inability to think outside your obviously quite contracted paradigm.
God bless sir/Madame.
God bless sir/Madame.
quote:Insulting me doesn't prove your prowess, sir/madame. You just admitted that you were spouting proprietary information. Wish I knew who you were so that I'd never employ your expertise in any business dealings of my own.
I don't feel like being sued by one of the largest developers in Houston. I was in the office today with a CVS Walgreens map and ALMOST took a picture to negate BS comments like these, until I realize if I took it to be an Internet tough guy, my employer would have me black balled.
PM if you want details. I've said enough proprietary info already. Those Walgreens rankings are no where near public info. I have a masters and Phd. I taught at A&M for multiple years. The attempt to correlate a user name to age eco it's the inability to think outside your obviously quite contracted paradigm.
God bless sir/Madame.
I don't work for you because you probably can't afford the payroll taxes on my salary. Stop kidding yourself, and making underhanded insults and insinuations. I've answered every question I was asked. Go blow smoke up another chimney.
Blue star for you. You won the Internet tonight for hurling insults and proving nothing.
Thanks. "Internet tough guy and Bum ~ EyeSmellRatz@yahoo.com"
ROFL.
ROFL.
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Why someone would share proprietary information and hint at their credentials on a discussion in a chat room smacks of insecurities and poor judgement. Express your observations if someone disagrees, so be it, move on. You win no awards here and saying too much about what you know would make you a liability to an employer in my view.
Eh. I should have done what I had done throughout the whole thread - Kept reading all the opinions and kept my fingers still.
But, I didn't and got called out for my tongue-in-cheek profile info. Live and learn....
But, I didn't and got called out for my tongue-in-cheek profile info. Live and learn....
quote:
Eh. I should have done what I had done throughout the whole thread - Kept reading all the opinions and kept my fingers still.
But, I didn't and got called out for my tongue-in-cheek profile info. Live and learn....
Why not just wait 6 months to a year, see if any drug stores close (spoiler alert: they do) and then we can get to apologies?
Honestly, I think it can go either way at this point.
quote:Are we suggesting the Walgreens at 29th and Briarcrest closes? Or all drugstores in Bryan besides Walmart?quote:
Eh. I should have done what I had done throughout the whole thread - Kept reading all the opinions and kept my fingers still.
But, I didn't and got called out for my tongue-in-cheek profile info. Live and learn....
Why not just wait 6 months to a year, see if any drug stores close (spoiler alert: they do) and then we can get to apologies?
Honestly, I think it can go either way at this point.
I get confused on who is posting on this account. Can you confirm which one of the Nichols this is?
There are MS Finance, MBA, and PHd in the postings but not sure belongs to which person behind the keyboard. Would be less confusing for all of you just used different usernames - with all the claims of people not being able to even pay your taxes, surely you can afford different handles.
There are MS Finance, MBA, and PHd in the postings but not sure belongs to which person behind the keyboard. Would be less confusing for all of you just used different usernames - with all the claims of people not being able to even pay your taxes, surely you can afford different handles.
Stop trolling.
quote:Oh is this the shared account? That explains a lot.
I get confused on who is posting on this account. Can you confirm which one of the Nichols this is?
There are MS Finance, MBA, and PHd in the postings but not sure belongs to which person behind the keyboard. Would be less confusing for all of you just used different usernames - with all the claims of people not being able to even pay your taxes, surely you can afford different handles.
quote:shouldn't that read OverLord Mayor or perhaps Dark Lord? LOL
Our Lord Mayor is a real estate magnate. No way will he let our fair city die!
What an interesting thread so ruined.
quote:The story of the Aggieland board ...
What an interesting thread so ruined.
Seriously, though, just for comparison, here's two five year segments that show that things aren't all that rosy in these days.
2003-2008:
Bryan gets a new H-E-B (replacing a small, old one), a new Kroger (replacing a small, old one), a nice new movie theater, and a Target.
College Station gets a ton of development on University, with two big developments (one mostly restaurants, the other with a bunch of big-box stores. It also gets a Gander Mountain.
2010-2015:
Bryan gets a new H-E-B (which isn't a whole lot bigger than the one it replaced), a new Walmart Supercenter, and a new Walmart grocery store.
College Station gets a new H-E-B and a new Lowe's, with a few fast foods around it. It also finishes up with a Walmart expansion, and gets a few new shiny new developments around Northgate, which mostly amounts to a new CVS and a fairly ugly tower that pollutes the A&M skyline.
2003-2008:
Bryan gets a new H-E-B (replacing a small, old one), a new Kroger (replacing a small, old one), a nice new movie theater, and a Target.
College Station gets a ton of development on University, with two big developments (one mostly restaurants, the other with a bunch of big-box stores. It also gets a Gander Mountain.
2010-2015:
Bryan gets a new H-E-B (which isn't a whole lot bigger than the one it replaced), a new Walmart Supercenter, and a new Walmart grocery store.
College Station gets a new H-E-B and a new Lowe's, with a few fast foods around it. It also finishes up with a Walmart expansion, and gets a few new shiny new developments around Northgate, which mostly amounts to a new CVS and a fairly ugly tower that pollutes the A&M skyline.
The story is not that BCS isn't booming, it's that its booming in a way you find disappointing. I have issues with the trajectory myself and what I'd like to see happen around here is even less likely than what you'd like to see. But it is what it is. People are moving here (second fastest growing metro area) for a reason. That doesn't happen with places in recession.
quote:I agree with this statement, though I believe Bryan and College Station are different markets.
The story is not that BCS isn't booming, it's that its booming in a way you find disappointing. I have issues with the trajectory myself and what I'd like to see happen around here is even less likely than what you'd like to see. But it is what it is. People are moving here (second fastest growing metro area) for a reason. That doesn't happen with places in recession.
I live in south College Station and can tell there is growth. The economy is heavily reliant on the university, and I am not positive, but I assume as the university grows, so does the economy that is reliant on the revenues it generates. Every year there's a record breaking freshman class.
That said, I am highly disappointed in the way we are growing. Tower Point is probably my biggest disappointment. When HEB and Lowes came in, I thought we'd get a few more sit-down restaurants. Instead we got another few bank branches, another few fast food places, and a couple more urgent care clinics. All three of these are the last thing we needed in S CSTAT.
I'm not sure who the developers are, but it seems like it's very haphazard. There are many mid-sized markets (like New Braunfels, for example) that have done a better job developing retail and restaurants. I've heard the pricing at tower point is part of the issue. They are very proud of their price per sq ft, which kept a lot of folks away.
These, of course, are just my opinions based on observations and not supported by hard data.
quote:quote:I agree with this statement, though I believe Bryan and College Station are different markets.
The story is not that BCS isn't booming, it's that its booming in a way you find disappointing. I have issues with the trajectory myself and what I'd like to see happen around here is even less likely than what you'd like to see. But it is what it is. People are moving here (second fastest growing metro area) for a reason. That doesn't happen with places in recession.
I live in south College Station and can tell there is growth. The economy is heavily reliant on the university, and I am not positive, but I assume as the university grows, so does the economy that is reliant on the revenues it generates. Every year there's a record breaking freshman class.
That said, I am highly disappointed in the way we are growing. Tower Point is probably my biggest disappointment. When HEB and Lowes came in, I thought we'd get a few more sit-down restaurants. Instead we got another few bank branches, another few fast food places, and a couple more urgent care clinics. All three of these are the last thing we needed in S CSTAT.
I'm not sure who the developers are, but it seems like it's very haphazard. There are many mid-sized markets (like New Braunfels, for example) that have done a better job developing retail and restaurants. I've heard the pricing at tower point is part of the issue. They are very proud of their price per sq ft, which kept a lot of folks away.
These, of course, are just my opinions based on observations and not supported by hard data.
I agree. I kind of expected Tower Point to be more like strip malls in Cypress. Having one sit down restaurant isn't good, and said sit down restaurant is the only thing in the area (besides Mooyah) that is actually new to the market.
Maysaggie,
what are your thoughts on the Century Square project.
Trying to get this discussion back on topic.
what are your thoughts on the Century Square project.
Trying to get this discussion back on topic.
quote:I wonder if some of the data the developers rely on is faulty.
That said, I am highly disappointed in the way we are growing. Tower Point is probably my biggest disappointment. When HEB and Lowes came in, I thought we'd get a few more sit-down restaurants. Instead we got another few bank branches, another few fast food places, and a couple more urgent care clinics. All three of these are the last thing we needed in S CSTAT.
I'm not sure who the developers are, but it seems like it's very haphazard. There are many mid-sized markets (like New Braunfels, for example) that have done a better job developing retail and restaurants. I've heard the pricing at tower point is part of the issue. They are very proud of their price per sq ft, which kept a lot of folks away.
quote:Agreed. As I said early in the thread, the short answer to the OP is "no."
The story is not that BCS isn't booming, it's that its booming in a way you find disappointing. I have issues with the trajectory myself and what I'd like to see happen around here is even less likely than what you'd like to see. But it is what it is. People are moving here (second fastest growing metro area) for a reason. That doesn't happen with places in recession.
Im not being a part of the typical aggieland board witch hunt. I'm off this thread for good. It was a good thread too.