College Station Utilities Bill

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91_Aggie
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Yep, mine was the highest its ever been in 12 years... $392. Last month was the previous high $280.

And with just announced new higher rates, I shudder at what next summer's bills will be.

robertcope
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I can't believe how many of you try and keep your house in the 70s. You folks better not ever, ever complain about large SUVs, sports cars, etc that get 'bad' gas mileage.

We keep our house at 88F, which is plenty comfortable. To be honest, I still feel that is a bit unnatural.

robert
(grew up without AC, apparently survived)
PseudonymK
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Some of us like to not be in a sauna all day. I have an a/c, and I'm going to use it.

I think most of us would just like to know why our bills are jumping up by $100 in some cases.
aggiepaintrain
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88?

Why even have central air?

I expect my bill to be $600+
luvmydoc
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quote:
I can't believe how many of you try and keep your house in the 70s. You folks better not ever, ever complain about large SUVs, sports cars, etc that get 'bad' gas mileage.

We keep our house at 88F, which is plenty comfortable. To be honest, I still feel that is a bit unnatural.

robert
(grew up without AC, apparently survived)


More power to you Robert (no pun intended I think most people would agree that 88 degrees inside is pretty dang warm. We have a ton of electronic equipment that would suffer at my house, not to mention how humid the house would seem that warm.
csagyo
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I keep mine on 76. I am very hot natured and would be sweating profusely at 80, much less 88.
NFLFAN
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If you can afford a 2500 sq ft home, I would think that a $500 utilities bill wouldn't seem like much.
Twix
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5 yr old brick home, 1700 sq ft

80 during the day, kicks down to 76 in the evening, and 74 at 10 pm with ceiling fans on all the time.

Our entire utility bill was $296.
BlueTeam02
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That Robert guy is insane.

One thing that nobody has mentioned on here is insulation and double pane windows.

We used that spray foam insulation because we heard that it is really good and will help on the utility bills. I figured it might take 7 or 8 years to get the money back, but would be a good investment. Wife also highly recommended it since she works at a engineering company that deals a lot with heat transfer.

Also have double pane windows.

And a new 15 SEER A/C

Anyway, we also have a programmable thermostat.

It is set at 76 during the day when we are gone, 73 when we return home from work, and 70 at night. Yes I like it cold.

Our bill is around $100 bucks per month.
PseudonymK
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But I rent...so I'm stuck with my bill.
AgResearch
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BlueTeam02 FTW!

Spray foam is the way to go in new construction.
AgFan1999
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Mine was $82 for a 1200 sq ft house.
BlueTeam02
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Actually I have heard of people just doing the attic on their existing home and it helping some.

MisterShipWreck
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My house is 5 years old and has all the latest energy stuff and insolation...

I think the average citizenry does not know that 20+% of their bill is for the city fund.

Before a petition is done, if 100 people showed up to complain at a council meeting during that opening time they allow anyone to go and speak about anything - it would be the first step to get attention on this issue. THEN other steps could be done...
AgResearch
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I'd do it in a heartbeat if I planned to be in the house for a while but I only plan on being here for another 2 years. I can't justify spending any more money in my house given the current market.
TKDMom
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Everyone who had a higher-than-usual bill: did it seem to come from your water? And was the amount of units of water quite a bit higher than previous months?


Well, ours actually dropped a tiny bit. It went from $374 in July to $343 in August. We've kept the house fairly warm during the day and programmed the thermostat to drop in the early evening. However, yes, the water usage was up for August. Which seems odd, given that we've pretty much let all the grass and gardens die this past month.
Marooned_n_Aggieland
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Let's look a little deeper (non-political) ..

CS Utilities charges 12.2 cents per kilowatt hour.

According to the interwebs an average central air system consumes between 2kW and 5kW of energy.

If your AC eats 3kW and you run it continuously for 10 hours per day ... and you have 33 days in a billing cycle (what I had for CSU August then ...

(Consumption) (Rate)
3 x 10 x 33 x $0.122 = $120.78

And this for the AC alone. How much time does your AC run? Mine ran about continuously between noon and 7pm to keep up with the 100F + temperature.

My CSU electric was $149.
county resident
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You think its high now wait and see what happens if cap and trade passes. I have heard that your bill will almost double.
spike427
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We have spray foam in our attic. Our pest control also said it was great rodent protection since they don't like chewing it! I can't wait to see if it helps out.

The blanket statement about affording a $500 bill just because you have a 2500 SF house is pretty unrealistic. Our new house is 2700 SF and we bought it for under $200k. A $500 utility bill messes up my monthly budget. Hopefully it won't come to that.

Re: keeping your house at 88: don't forget that your A/C is also your dehumidifier!! Farther north/drier maybe you could get by with it. But it's still too humid here to not run it more during the day.
spike427
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TKD, interesting about the water. I think we will start monitoring our meters ourselves. Last month the bill stated that we used 20 unites of water, up from 9 the month before. Both of those are pretty high but the 20 made me fall out of my chair.
mhnatt
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[This message has been edited by mhnatt (edited 4/16/2012 3:32p).]
BlueTeam02
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see - spray foam makes sense, although I have two differences from Mike - we don't run all those landscaping lights, and I would be sticking to the furniture if it was 83 in my house.....

And our house is half the size of his, so our ~$100 dollar bill makes sense.
dachsie
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I have ~1400 sq ft. I keep it at 70 at nite, kick up to 80 when not home and try about 73 when home. I cant deal with being hot, esp when i sleep. My bill for June was $320, July $310 and Aug $386. I just moved in Nov to this house so cant compare to previous. i play to go to leveled billing in Dec when i am qualified to.

I forgot to add that my ceiling fans run 24/7 in LR and in 2 BRs

[This message has been edited by dachsie (edited 9/2/2010 11:22a).]
spike427
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We have spray in the attic only but spider in the walls. And our layout is also better than our old house - garage/guest/home office gets the hotter sun at the end of the day.
harley98
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~2500 sf. built 1976. in college station. our TOTAL bill was $458. (only 36$ was water)thats the highest in the 12 years we've lived here we have paid EVER in ANY house we've lived in (in both bryan and cs)

programmed 82 during the day
76 at night.
water only when absolutely necessary (average once a week) we use our airconditioner drippings to water potted/flower bed plants.

BlueTeam02
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pretty sure the 1976 explains that.

What insulation there is left can't be doing you any favors....
capn-mac
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ISU is entirely correct that in retrofit, moving the insulation plane to the bottom of the roof deck is one of the singular most effective choices a person can make.

The reasons for this are logical when thought out. Our roofs, by and large, soak up sun from dawn to dusk every day during the summer. The roof and the deck underneath gain that insolation and store it. This heats the rafters and structure in the attic. We will see attic venting proposed as an answer to this.

But the minimums for this are as low as 1:350. Just like with your car, cracking the car windows open 1/2" will cool your car 3-5º--1:350 will lower attic temps about 3-5º, from around 135º to 130º. If you roll your car windows 100% down, similar to power venting your attic, you can get to 6-10º temperature change. But, you need power vents that will run 2-3000 hours per year in our climate. Which then brings our humidity into question, too. Hard to "cool" an attic with 90+º at 60%RH air.

With an attic running 120-140º, the temperature difference ("delta-T" being the term-of-art) to the inside at 78º is near 50º; the side walls of the house on a 95º day are only 17º difference.

Also, the hardest plane in any house to air-seal is the ceiling. Any leak of air will be sucked into the attic by just the Delta-T.

Most of our local houses have the HVAC ductwork in that oven-like attic. Ok, most ducts are wrapped in insulation--but that insulation is only R-5 to R-8 at best. The joint sealing on the ductwork in too many residences is nearly non-existent. So, the air in the ducts gets warm. The stat kicks the blower on, and heated air is pushed out into our conditioned spaces, all while the leaky ducts are blowing expensive air into the attic. Not ideal.

So, move the insulation away from the ceiling, and to the bottom of the roof deck. Closed-cell spray foam can be the easiest for getting into nooks and crannies. It can be installed over vent channels, if those are required. But, it is also the most expensive answer. An alternative is to use rigid insulation across the bottom of the rafters. This can be supplemented with blown-in cellulose economically. Foil-faced insulation board can add "radiant barrier" to the strategy.
Also, since you no longer have 12-24" of insulation over the ceiling joists, you get to have the attic "back" as a storage space.

This works in existing structures--if sometimes needing creative answers for low-pitch and high-pitched roofs. You almost can defer insulating the walls, having brought the ceiling plane to about the delta-T of the wall planes.

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JMac03
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Ours was $500 for a 2300 sq ft house, 68 degrees at night. Its rarely under $450 in the summer for us.
J^K
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I think it takes quite a bit of water to make a substantial difference in your combined bill. I would go straight to the electricity and compare kW hours used from month to month. That's where most of your dollar increase will come from.
aggiepaintrain
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Well I was off... $734, water was $245
3300 sq ft 3 year old
Yard is going to die now
Curly Bill Brocius
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Try this if your bill is too high:
1. Turn everything off after your next meter read which can be obtained from the utility. Either utility.
2. Turn your main breaker off
3. Leave it off until the meter reader comes around again.
4. Several days later you'll get a bill.
5. It will likely be $8-10, which is the customer service fee.
Wall-la. No more high bills.
CSU went up a lot over the last couple of years. BTU went down twice in the last 10 years. If your bill is higher, you used more or your on CSU!
dubi
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2100 sf home built in 1967. Hubby has replaced all windows, doors, insulation, soffit vents, and added a thermostat controlled attic fan.

My bill was $340 ($100 was the water & sewer).

[This message has been edited by dubi (edited 9/3/2010 10:38p).]
aggiepublius
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And it is only going higher:

quote:

The proposed budget includes a 6 percent increase in electric rates to pay for increasing power supply costs, as well as expansion of infrastructure; a 2 percent increase in water rates to pay for the planned increases in purchased power costs that have been phased in over the past several years; and a 3 percent increase in wastewater rates to fund the projected operating debt service and capital costs for the wastewater utility system, he said.


http://www.theeagle.com/local/CS-may-impose-tax-hike

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Electric rates in College Station were among the lowest among cities with city-owned utilities. Now it’s among the highest. And they’re going up. A six percent increase is planned for next year.

Chief Financial Officer Jeff Kersten says at one time it was set at nine percent. College Station electric rates went this year by nine percent and in 2012 a four percent increase is planned.



http://www.wtaw.com/2010/08/23/utility-rates-increasing-in-cs-holding-in-bryan/
texanna
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$187 (not sure water/electric separation). I'm in a 1 bedroom apartment. This is by far the highest I've ever paid, here or elsewhere. I don't think it's water usage either, considering the yard and bushes are dead.
Curly Bill Brocius
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BTU commented on the radio that they hit an all time peak of over 300MW. That was about 8% higher than ever before. we had a lot of 100+ degree days, so the best way to be really sure we're not getting the shaft is to compare HDD's from last month to the same month last year and maybe even the previous month. My AC ran constantly because they are generally only good for about 18 degrees below the outside ambient air temp.
 
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