Gun Control Remains Alive & Well in D.C.

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ChampionFirearms
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Howdy Everyone,

Here is an article from The Wall Street Journal detailing the current gun contol policy in D.C.

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Gun-control supporters say the District is acting within the Constitution, in that Heller didn't outlaw all gun control. "From our perspective, there's a broad range of gun-control steps that can be taken that would be constitutional post-Heller," said Chad Ramsey of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.


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Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, said the city's new rules strike against the spirit of the Supreme Court's decision. "Can you go out and buy guns in D.C. and defend yourself as the Supreme Court said you should be able to? No. The citizens can't experience the freedom from a practical level. What good is winning it philosophically?"


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704093204575216680860962548.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth

To summarize the article:

After the Heller decision, the D.C. city council passed the "Firearms Registration Amendment Act of 2008"

Under the law, would-be gun owners (just to own, not carry the firearm) must go through a process requiring fingerprints, photographs and the detailing of some job history

Applicants have to take a 20-question test on the District's gun laws and regulations.

There is a five-hour class, including at least one hour at a gun range, although the city doesn't have a public range.

Buyers are required to find trainers from a list approved by police. And, it can take days before an approved trainer calls back to set up an appointment

There is also a 10-day waiting period.

There is a vision exam, and once the process is complete, the gun must be taken back to the police to be fired for a ballistic identification.

The registration expires after three years and must be renewed. If it lapses, the police can seize the gun, and for a first offense, the owner could be jailed for up to one year and fined $1,000.

The law designates certain guns as assault weapons that can't be bought in the city. It limits the size of the ammunition-feeding devices to no more than 10 rounds.

In 2011, the city will require semi-automatic pistols owned in the city to be produced with devices that imprint shell casings with a code or serial number as part of the firing process, even though this new technology for "micro-stamping" does not yet exist.

There are no gun stores in the city. It has few federally licensed firearms dealers—businesses that can transfer a handgun into the city that was bought elsewhere.

It is estimated that the fees for registration, testing, fingerprinting and transfers can double the cost of a gun.

In an intersting note, homicides have dropped by 25% in the first full year since the Heller vs. D.C. ruling.

Finally, it has been predicted that a new D.C. gun case will yet again reach the Supreme Court...this time challenging the new gun registration process.

-Mike Stulce


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Sweet Kitten Feet
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Politics board?
ChampionFirearms
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Politics board?


Your point?

-Mike Stulce


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australopithecus robustus
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The point is....

Put it on the politics board where it belongs.
Doc Brown
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What does this have to do with B/CS?
allenhondaCSTX
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I would think since BCS is in Texas, where 50% of the population owns a firearm, this will have quite a bit of interest in our town.

Believe it or not, there is politics involved in BCS besides our local politicians in office.
Doc Brown
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Yea, but do we live in DC and have to abide by their registration rules?
cohibasymas
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Thanks for posting Mike
ChampionFirearms
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The point is....

Put it on the politics board where it belongs


I have to agree with allenhondaCSTX on this one, there are quite a few gun owners in BCS that should be aware of this issue b/c it concerns them as well.

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Yea, but do we live in DC and have to abide by their registration rules?


Last time I checked, BCS was still a part of the United States. And, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the 2nd Ammendment was an individual right.

After this ruling, the city council of D.C. took it upon themselves to pass a city ordnance enacting gun control, further infringing on an individual's right protected under the 2nd ammendment.

With our own local city council elections coming up, isn't this something to consider?

-Mike Stulce


Champion Firearms - Aggieland's Premier Gun Source Since 1993!
dachsie
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Why do we have so many board police on here? If the staff wants to move a thread, they will. If you dont like a thread, dont read it and dont comment on it. Get a life!
telefunk
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DC is part of the US, too, and last time I checked they still do not have voting representation in Congress. To me, this is a much bigger issue than their gun control regs.

And do you seriously think the CS city council would take this issue on and try and ban guns in the city?
ChampionFirearms
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And do you seriously think the CS city council would take this issue on and try and ban guns in the city?


No, b/c I know Ben White and most of our CS city council. The mayor and the city council are good folks and that's why they will continue to get my vote.

But this is the point...where does it begin and how far could it go? With D.C. and places like them, it all started somewhere and the people just stood by and let it happen. This article in te WSJ is a wake-up call for the rest of us to stay involved in our local process.

-Mike Stulce


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AgFan1999
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Doc Brown
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So it's not OK for a normal poster to post something in here unrelated to Aggieland but sponsors get a free ticket?
95_Aggie
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Since sponsors actually pay, I wouldn't exactly call it a "free" ticket
LGAggie
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dude, chill out. It's good info that people need to know about.

I am starting to notice a pattern to docs posts. There always seems to be a chip on your shoulder about something.
4lilmonkeys
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You see the title of the thread, right? If you have a huge issue with it, it's simple enough to not click on the thread. And as it's already been pointed out, staff will move it if necessary.

Personally, I appreciate these posts in this forum. I don't venture to the General or Politics boards often, because sometimes it feels like vultures waiting for the kill (although, the same can be said of a few of you here too...jeez). Sometimes, important information gets lost in the shuffle because it's so fast-paced. Whether you'd like to believe or not, these things do effect our small community. And, if they don't currently, I'm sure they will soon enough. At least, as long as this current administration remains in power.

Thank you Champion.
bcsculliganman
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Mike
Thanks for the heads up...I got an email about this today and jumped on here because i knew you would have the facts..
telefunk
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Mike, you do know that CS just had an election and Ben was defeated? I don't recall gun rights being a huge local issue during the election.

And as far as the DC folks standing by and letting this happen to them, maybe this is what the citizenry wanted and asked their elected officials for? Keep in mind there are some places in the US/world where gun ownership is viewed differently than here in Texas. Just a thought.

And a far as posting this kind of info on the CS board, I guess this means that anything of a national or international nature that impacts us folks here in the valley is fair game? Which is just about everything, right?!

Amd I do agree that I would rather read political threads here than on the politics board - some of those folks are crazy and really rude - I do however think there should be some attempt to link said issue to the local scene or perspective.

Mike Stulce
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Hello telefunk,

I don't recall gun rights being a huge local issue during the election either. But, my point earlier was not just limited to gun rights- it's about any issue where a city council can enact a policy that goes directly against the best interest of their constituent's. Or in the case of D.C., against their Constitutional rights.

For example, a few years ago the College Station city council decided to install cameras at selected intersections. Initially, I thought this was a good idea b/c I was tired of dodging cars that were running red lights.

But then Jim Ash stepped forward and we learned that there was no due process invloved, and the cameras were abandoned.

I also agree that other people from around the US/world may hold different views or opinions on gun ownership than Texans. While I cannot speculate on the particular views of the citizens of District of Columbia, the D.C issue happens to be about rights that are guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States.

As far as posting this type of info on myBCS, out of respect, I will be happy to take this issue up with the staff at TexAgs/myBCS. In all fairness, when I signed up to be a sponsor here on myBCS, I do not remember receiving notice that posting "anything of a national or international nature that impacts us folks here in the valley" was prohibited.

Sorry, I was just trying to keep everyone here better informed.

-Mike Stulce


Champion Firearms - Aggieland's Premier Gun Source Since 1993!
cje32
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Thanks for the post and the info Mike.
TexasHealthNut
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Great post, Mike!
telefunk
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Hey Mike,

First, re guns as a local issue, see winky face on previous post. Some sarcasm in my response to be sure.

Second, who is to say what "the best interest of their constituent's" are - this is my point. The good folks in DC elected people to represent them and this is the policy they came up with. Some may agree and some may disagree, but that is part of our representative form of government. From the article it sounds like they are making it difficult to acquire guns in DC, but not impossible, so are their 2nd amendment rights being trampled? I cannot say. I don't recall anything in the constitution about making it easy (or difficult) to keep and bare arms. So it comes down to interpretation and the courts and lawyers...

As far as what you post, I could care less! Trust me , I am not a posting nazi (more of a first amendment guy than a second, to be honest)! Like another response stated, just don't read it! So post on, dude. I do, however, reserve the right to respond and challenge posts as I see fit (and am interested in engaging in dialog on the issue). So, no need to apologize as far as I am concerned.

Mike Stulce
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Hello again telefunk,

Fair enough & thanks for the response.

-Mike Stulce


Champion Firearms - Aggieland's Premier Gun Source Since 1993!
LGAggie
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Glad to see everyone is friends again!
NateDog
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Glad to see everyone is friends again!

If it had escalated any further, that logo might've ended up being banner-sized!
AggiePhil
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Some of us ONLY check the MyBCS board, and I believe that sponsorship between MyBCS and TexAgs is separate. So I don't see any problem with a MyBCS sponsor posting about a subject of importance to them...on MyBCS.
c870
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Gun Control remains alive and well at Texas A&M as well, where the same professors who are expected to protect their students in case of fire are forbidden from protecting them in case of murder; and the same students who can carry a handgun while studying late at Starbucks are forbidden from carrying while studying late on campus.
KurtK85
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Some of us ONLY check the MyBCS board, and I believe that sponsorship between MyBCS and TexAgs is separate. So I don't see any problem with a MyBCS sponsor posting about a subject of importance to them...on MyBCS.

Champion Firearms is a sponsor on both TexAgs and myBCS
Sweet Kitten Feet
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Mike, just a little FYI. Just because you're a sponsor doesn't mean you get to control the subject matter of the board.

Besides, everyone knows the only acceptable thread subjects for this board are:

1) Lost Pets
2) Found Pets
3) The corruptness of the local politicians
4) Complaining about restaraunts.

oh, and 5) Anything having to do with Stover Boys.
Scruffy
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NateDog
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for #5
Mike Stulce
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Hello Sweet Kitten Feet,

Not trying to be controlling, just offer up a little variety...I hear it's the spice of life.

-Mike Stulce


Champion Firearms - Aggieland's Premier Gun Source Since 1993!
SideshowBob
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+1 Mike.
csagyo
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Mike, SKF I'm sure is on your side!
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