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Whitetail in Velvet

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skysenderos
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These bucks won't be in velvet for much longer, but they sure do look cool on thermal before they harden up. Are the bucks around y'all already rubbing out of velvet?

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skysenderos said:

These bucks won't be in velvet for much longer, but they sure do look cool on thermal before they harden up. Are the bucks around y'all already rubbing out of velvet?


A phrase also heard in Austin bars near the tu campus on Saturdays.
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75% still in velvet Burleson County. 75% hard horned in Brazos. Rut is about 2 weeks later in Burleson.
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No velvet since last week in Nacogdoches county.
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Last weekend in Kimble County
S.A. Aggie
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No velvet in Anderson co.
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1 out of velvet so far in Uvalde County and its a 1.5 year old 5-6 point. Everything else is still in velvet, except for the red stag and other antlered exotics (Sika mostly - no Axis anymore )
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GIANT!!
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

1 out of velvet so far in Uvalde County and its a 1.5 year old 5-6 point. Everything else is still in velvet, except for the red stag and other antlered exotics (Sika mostly - no Axis anymore )


Are the axis all trapped out?
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If that's a low fence deer, it is impressive.
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Anthrax hit the Axis in areas very hard. That and the Snow event.
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If I would have been so fortunate to have ever had a deer like that on our high fence ranch it would have been impressive in my book……as we didn't raise deer in pens and never brought any in….all of ours were native to the ranch. We had some good deer but none looked like that.
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Gunny456 said:

Anthrax hit the Axis in areas very hard. That and the Snow event.


Yes sir, am aware of the anthrax event several years back particularly in western Edwards and western Real counties and a couple of harsh winters. I have also heard that trappers are pulling a lot of low fence axis to sell to high fence operations to restock their herds.

Was curious to hear what Ttha Aggie is experiencing regarding axis at his place in Uvalde Co.
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Yes sir. Hopefully he will chime in. He is very knowledgeable on the subject. I remember him commenting on the decline of Axis there but don't remember the details.
We allowed TPWD to trap some on our place years back. Axis are very temperamental to capture with dart guns as they are very susceptible to respiratory failure and myopathy.
They used chemical immobilization and also set drop nets with minimal success…..Axis are just relatively hard to capture. We had our best results (least mortality) with helicopter but it was expensive.
I had heard the same as you a couple of years back about the trappers, but due to high mortality when capturing with conventional methods (drugs and drop nets), I had understood many of them quite well doing it.
Be interesting to hear what ttha has to say about it.
Take care. Good talking.
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checking in from Brown/Comanche county are…. mostly hardened…. a few stragglers but wont be long… another week to 10days
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aggieforester05 said:



Last weekend in Kimble County


I dont think i would ever harvest that deer….. i want a buncha those running around…. lemme find the right does! lol
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Combination of multiple things but here recently it's the trapping. 2021 knocked a bunch back due to the freeze and the pricing on axis skyrocketed. There are trappers all along the Frio now…

I've seen them on the neighbors property but not in the numbers we used to see. Them not running any livestock and having much more grass is also a deterrent too.

We also had a pretty decent herd migrate out from Garner back in the day that no longer does. I personally believe that happened right after they started really shooting them there but I don't know the exact number they shot.

We were close to Anthrax and it did make its way all the way to 83 in parts but we didn't have any visible die off on our place.
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Glad you responded. As usual, spot on info.
Interesting you say you see Sika.
They will cross breed with both Elk and Red Deer. This will eventually dilute the pureness or pedigree of all three species. It's already difficult to find pure Rocky Mountain Elk or Red Deer free ranging in Texas.
It's become very important for breeders like high fence ranches, zoos, etc to keep papers of certification of lineage to prove the "pureness" of their animals.
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Saw 50/50 in Bosque last weekend. According to cameras they were just coming out of velvet as of beginning of last week.
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alvtimes said:

aggieforester05 said:



Last weekend in Kimble County


I dont think i would ever harvest that deer….. i want a buncha those running around…. lemme find the right does! lol


It won't ever be harvested, it's a breeder buck on high fence. I'm almost certain that was one the owner had brought in.
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

Combination of multiple things but here recently it's the trapping. 2021 knocked a bunch back due to the freeze and the pricing on axis skyrocketed. There are trappers all along the Frio now…

I've seen them on the neighbors property but not in the numbers we used to see. Them not running any livestock and having much more grass is also a deterrent too.

We also had a pretty decent herd migrate out from Garner back in the day that no longer does. I personally believe that happened right after they started really shooting them there but I don't know the exact number they shot.

We were close to Anthrax and it did make its way all the way to 83 in parts but we didn't have any visible die off on our place.


Thanks for the reply. Pretty much what I figured. It's happening throughout the Hill Country.

In regard to trapping of free range axis, for better or for worse, every landowner will have his/her own opinion. Some aren't happy about it, while some will applaud the removal of non-natives.
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Having a large free range Axis move into your set really gets your adrenaline going.
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