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the worst thing that ever happened was when these were called "silencers" and Hollywood making them sound like a silent but deadly fart. So anyone who has never shot one thinks that's what it sounds like.
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GeorgiAg said:

shalackin said:

why would a supposed conservative, trump appointed, AG allow the DOJ to appeal this against the 2A?

Right now, this is not binding nationwide. A Federal Court in Cali or NY could come out with an opposite holding. We don't want that and like the judge's order here So we NEED this to get appealed to the 5th Circuit and on to the S.Ct. for a nationwide ruling.

Yet when some Hawaii district court judge issues a ruling stating that we have to allow illegals in willy nilly, it is somehow a nationwide ruling.....
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GeorgiAg said:

shalackin said:

why would a supposed conservative, trump appointed, AG allow the DOJ to appeal this against the 2A?

Right now, this is not binding nationwide. A Federal Court in Cali or NY could come out with an opposite holding. We don't want that and like the judge's order here So we NEED this to get appealed to the 5th Circuit and on to the S.Ct. for a nationwide ruling.

Hey GA...what happens if DOJ/ATF decides not to appeal? Does the district court then issue a nationwide injunction? Or does this particular group just get to start buying stuff with no stamp and the rest of the country has to keep on as is?
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The Sun said:

GeorgiAg said:

shalackin said:

why would a supposed conservative, trump appointed, AG allow the DOJ to appeal this against the 2A?

Right now, this is not binding nationwide. A Federal Court in Cali or NY could come out with an opposite holding. We don't want that and like the judge's order here So we NEED this to get appealed to the 5th Circuit and on to the S.Ct. for a nationwide ruling.

Hey GA...what happens if DOJ/ATF decides not to appeal? Does the district court then issue a nationwide injunction? Or does this particular group just get to start buying stuff with no stamp and the rest of the country has to keep on as is?


I've read a little bit more into it and I really don't wanna speak definitively on it because it's not like it's my case and I'm reading every single thing. I also avoid Federal Court whenever possible (tough deadlines, etc) and only have a handful of cases there at a given time.

The current stay is just a stay against the injunction issued by judge Hendrix against ATF registration by covered parties becoming effective. Meaning for the covered parties, the ATF would be enjoined from enforcing it against them if they don't ask the 5th circuit to extend the stay. The time for appeal is 60 days so we're looking at October as the appeal deadline for the ATF.

Weird scenario. ATF doesn't get the stay extended. Next week the covered parties run amok buying suppressors and SBRs. ATF appeals before the October deadline. They win on appeal. Now everyone who bought an SBR and suppressor is a felon. Ha! Awesome.

Net net. This is a legal mess in its current state and MUST be appealed. Also ATF must ask 5th Circuit to extend the stay or its' bedlam. Plus the state like New York or California or Hawaii have a district judge that issues an opposite rolling and it's even more of a mess.

Gotta appeal.

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Any reason I should wait until October to buy my first suppressor? Or just go ahead and get one?
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Milwaukees Best Light said:

Any reason I should wait until October to buy my first suppressor? Or just go ahead and get one?


Just buy now.

People talked about waiting for Hearing Protection Act and other lawsuits for cans like commerce act stuff.

Not worth waiting on what might be in the future.
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Milwaukees Best Light said:

Any reason I should wait until October to buy my first suppressor? Or just go ahead and get one?

buy now. No tax stamp. My sporting goods store has a Silencer Shop kiosk. Super easy to input your info - they do all the work for you.

For my second, I just picked the one out I wanted to buy, paid for it and they said, "we'll notify you when it's ready." From what I've heard and what has been posted here, the wait times are not that bad now.

By the time they appeal to the 5th Circuit and then on to the S.Ct., it's gonna be forever.
 
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