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vic99
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Wanting to build approximate 40'x60' around my current 10'x15' well house/tank.
Looking for recommendations on prefab and what lessons have you learned?
Gunny456
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Make a provision to be able to have access with a well rig to be able to get above the well to pull it if ever need be. In addition make your roof above with an opening to get the cable from the well rig to the well head without having to tear a part of your roof off.
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I wouldn't build around a well house. One day you will have to access that well and having a building around it will only make it more expensive to do so. Unless your shop is going to be 30' tall and include an overhead crane to pull the well pipe anyway.
ZihuatanejoMan
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Why don't you build the 40'x60' next to the well house? Building around it sounds like a horrible idea.
AnScAggie
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Scoopen Skwert
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I'd first check with MFBarnes.
highvelocity
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1000' by 1000' of GTFO
vic99
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Thanks for the great input. Apologies. Let me clarify...actual well head is about 180' away.

In 2017 I moved components (pressure tank, booster, softener, pump saver, etc) toward the back of the property and added a 2500 gallon storage tank. Also ran 100A box from the house to power the components (currently using 70A).
Tank is currently exposed, components have small insulated shed built around them. I want to enclose all of it and remove the little shed. I will have roof access if I ever need to access top port of storage tank.

Curious if anyone has experience going with stock/standard dimensions vs custom and who you've used.
vic99
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bump since my initial information was misleading....
Codes12
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I would still prefer keeping the two separate. You still have a pressurized water source that with any issue could flood or soak the rest of the shop area. I currently have an 8' x 8' well shed and a 40' x 60' barn. I see no advantages of combining the two.
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The vfd and valves for my well are in my shop bathroom. I love it because I have a small space heater to keep everything from freezing (woke up to -9 yesterday morning).

I wouldn't change anything about my set up. My previous place was set up similarly and loved the set up there as well.

With "remote" controls and pressure tanks, it makes it easy to set up water softener, pressure regulation and control the environment. Keeping everything climate controlled should make things last longer and much easier to plug and play when replacement/repair is needed.
Gunny456
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Lots of folks in our area do that because of the cold temperatures that can be experienced. We are -2 this am and have not been above 20 for a couple of days.
Many ranches here have their wells, pressure tanks, water softeners, etc built into a corner of their shops. When pouring the slabs they lower like a 10 x 10 or 12 x 12 part of the slab down about 3-4" and put a floor drain or a way for the water to get out in that part to prevent flooding of the rest of the shop in case of a catastrophic water leak.
This set up also allows the well and plumbing to easily be heated as to the rest of the shop and it's convenient for installing a bathroom as all the plumbing is right there as well.
When building the shops like this they design the roofs with a 4' x 4' framed opening with an easy provision for well trucks to service the well.
ETA: I will add that our house here has similar slab designs as both water heaters and our mud room/laundry room have 4" down-set in the slabs with large floor drains to prevent flooding of the rest of the house in case of catastrophic water events from the water heaters or washing machine.
vic99
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Thanks. That's a large part of why I am enclosing it and I already planned on having the current 10x15 recessed with a drain around perimeter. 2021, everything was destroyed when we lost power for a week with single digit temps. I'm not letting that happen again and I'll still have plenty of room.
I was mainly looking for any direction/experience with some of the following that have been recommended by neighbors:
Mueller
Titan
Alansfactory outlet
rnmetal buildings
others?
Thx
Gunny456
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I had a 30 x 60 horse barn built by Mueller. Was a very good experience. Fair pricing. Took pride in their work.
TdoubleH
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Mueller is the way to go for a "kit" imho. However, I was able to get my structure turnkey'd (fab & erect) as a weld up building (vs bolt up) for the same price as their kit through a local metal building builder. Had some good references on him so it was an easy decision.
Gunny456
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I liked the Mueller option because I erected the frame myself… then had a contractor they recommended do the insulation, sides and roofs. Saved me a lot of money.
The overhead doors had to be done by a door company regardless of a Mueller building or weld up in my case.
I got multiple bids on weld up or bolt up, turn key and for my area the price was a wash… so I decided I could do the red iron myself, ( I rented a hydraulic boom for my tractor)….and had a couple of helpers.
My main issue was the weld up contractors could not get steel back then and were out 6 months on doing it.
Understand what you say and it's a good point.
schmellba99
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Moving the valves and electronic inside is fine. I wouldn't try to cover up the 2500 gallon tank though.

1. That is a lot of wasted space in the shop/barn
2. It will leak. They all do. You cannot stop it from happening.
3. That leak that is 100% guaranteed will happen at the most inopportune time imaginable. Without fail.
4. There is absolutely zero way that leak happens in any type of convenient spot. That goes against all laws of the universe, God and man.
5. In order to have good access, that tank cannot be in a corner and must be out in the open. Even more wasted space as a result of having to have access on a 360 degree area. Say the tank is 10' diameter - in order to have good workable access around it, you'll need 3' minimum. You have gone from using 80 SF for the tank footprint up to a minimum of 200+ SF of area for the tank footprint. That is 2.5x the space required - essentially 10% of your shop floor space.
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