Nightforce NX8, Eotech Vudu or Vortex Razor

What about the Trijicon Credo HX 1-8? I've heard good things about their glass quality. Also, it can switch between red and green reticles.

It is new. I have never played with it. I only recommended the ones I have owned. Being trijicon, I assume it is a good optic.

Great concept, hopefully time and competition brings down the price. Local vendor has them for $1400.
Red dot/thermal combo.
https://holosun.com/products/reflex-sight/drs/drs-th.html

So is green light a lot better than red light for sniping out those bass turds?

I think I've decided on the trijicon credo hx. Can someone help me with how to choose the height of the scope rings? I see 1.54 inch height, 1.6 inch height, or 1.93 inch height typically. Is there an ideal hieght for running an LPVO? All of those heights would be compatible with the trijicon credo.

Really depends on personal preference for where you make your cheek weld. I like them high on ARs. Anything over 1.5 inches is good. If you are not used to it the 1.9 might be too high.

I used my Model 70 26" in 7mm Mag with a VX3 scope. I have a SloGlo hog light on my feeder. Really no need to do more than that unless you just want an excuse to spend money. If so, that's cool. Go for it. If you don't, this setup will let you get the job done.

No suppressor needed. Worried about hearing? Amazon has Howard Leigh earplugs…20 bucks will get you 20 pairs. I think I still have half a box from 15 years ago when I bought them.

BrazosDog02 said:

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I used my Model 70 26" in 7mm Mag with a VX3 scope. I have a SloGlo hog light on my feeder. Really no need to do more than that unless you just want an excuse to spend money. If so, that's cool. Go for it. If you don't, this setup will let you get the job done.

No suppressor needed. Worried about hearing? Amazon has Howard Leigh earplugs…20 bucks will get you 20 pairs. I think I still have half a box from 15 years ago when I bought them.

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To be honest, I'm looking for ways to trick out my AR-15 for the job, and my dad is looking for a budget gun to do the job.

I want to add a suppressor next, but I have zero knowledge on what to get: QD or screw on? Which 5.56 ammo? Subsonic or no?

Is there still a ridiculous fee or wait time to get a suppressor?

Tax stamp is $200 and ATF approval takes about a week right now

On my friends land in OK

State will pay for entire removal.

Great game!!!

Yes I was skeptical too. I found legit reviews elsewhere before ordering. But I received the night vision goggles and they really are incredible for the money.

The question is whether you trying to drop them on the spot - where there's about a zillion options depending on how much noise you want to make... or are trying to punch a couple holes in 'em and get them to run off and become buzzard food elsewhere - where a suppressed .22 works just fine.

BrazosDog02 said:

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I used my Model 70 26" in 7mm Mag with a VX3 scope. I have a SloGlo hog light on my feeder. Really no need to do more than that unless you just want an excuse to spend money. If so, that's cool. Go for it. If you don't, this setup will let you get the job done.

No suppressor needed. Worried about hearing? Amazon has Howard Leigh earplugs…20 bucks will get you 20 pairs. I think I still have half a box from 15 years ago when I bought them.

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7mm mag? Overkill and a waste. .223 will do the same job. Really no more need than that.

Hell, while we are going to bare needs, a .22 magnum will stone a pig if you put the round right behind tge ear.

Earplugs suck, btw. Suppressors are much better.

Thunderstruck xx said:

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Thunderstruck xx said:

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Based on the replies, I'm on the fence about a suppressor, but I understand the benefits. What red dot plus magnifier or "all in one" optic do you all recommend for this?

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Get the suppressor
1-6x LPVO scope with a red dot reticle is a jack of all trades optic (for daylight hunting or hunting where you have a light)

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Do you have any recommendations on a quality LPVO? Let's go with $2000 or less on the optic budget.

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$2k or less gets you just about any LVPO on the market

Vortex Razor, Eotech Vudu, Sig Tango6, Zeiss Conquest, Trijicon VCOG. Trijicon Credo, Leupold Patrol, Leupold VX-6HD, Primary Arms, etc.

Pretty much a pick your favorite brand except for Night Force at that price point.

I have a feeling we probably busted a bag filling the feeder. Normally the deer cleanup all the corn within a few hours of each feeding. The coons will cleanup anything left after dark

Gunny456 said:

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Go through the trouble to get the suppressor. Save your hearing. You will appreciate that you did as you age.

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Listen to his message. I just went to the 77Ranch and finally had to get hearing aids after years of hunting/shooting (other than sightings in). My Dr. of Audiology said that every time I wore eye protection I should have worn ear protection. If you can't get an effective suppressor please get effective ear protection.

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Gunny456 said:

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Go through the trouble to get the suppressor. Save your hearing. You will appreciate that you did as you age.

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Listen to his message. I just went to the 77Ranch and finally had to get hearing aids after years of hunting/shooting (other than sightings in). My Dr. of Audiology said that every time I wore eye protection I should have worn ear protection. If you can't get an effective suppressor please get effective ear protection.

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Ok, questions:

1. Does a suppressor completely eliminate the need for hearing protection?

2. If so, do I need to use subsonic ammo to avoid needing hearing protection with a suppressor?

3. Do I need to use subsonic ammo to avoid damaging a suppressor?

1) Depends on the situation and how many times you shoot. For hunting I would say you do not need hearing protection with a suppressor. Target shooting or shooting a lot I still wear it. I typically hunt with supersonic ammo, suppressor, and no hearing protection.

2)Subsonic ammo does make it substantially quieter. But limits your range and energy on target. Most bullets do not expand well sub sonic. You need to buy subsonic expanding ammo. Typically: 300BLK, 308, or 8.6Blk

3)Most suppressors do not require subsonic ammo. Typically only pistol suppressors have ratings if shooting a rifle round.

There is a wealth of knowledge on here and thousands of suppressors owned by TEXAGS members. PewScience is the best resource online.

https://pewscience.com/

Thunderstruck xx said:

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Texarkanaag69 said:

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Gunny456 said:

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Go through the trouble to get the suppressor. Save your hearing. You will appreciate that you did as you age.

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Listen to his message. I just went to the 77Ranch and finally had to get hearing aids after years of hunting/shooting (other than sightings in). My Dr. of Audiology said that every time I wore eye protection I should have worn ear protection. If you can't get an effective suppressor please get effective ear protection.

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Ok, questions:

1. Does a suppressor completely eliminate the need for hearing protection?

2. If so, do I need to use subsonic ammo to avoid needing hearing protection with a suppressor?

3. Do I need to use subsonic ammo to avoid damaging a suppressor?

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I was just trying to encourage you to protect your hearing. I have absolutely no experience with a suppressor so just shoot away without ear protection and see where your hearing is when you get to the 77Ranch.

JeremiahJohnson said:

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1) Depends on the situation and how many times you shoot. For hunting I would say you do not need hearing protection with a suppressor. Target shooting or shooting a lot I still wear it. I typically hunt with supersonic ammo, suppressor, and no hearing protection.

2)Subsonic ammo does make it substantially quieter. But limits your range and energy on target. Most bullets do not expand well sub sonic. You need to buy subsonic expanding ammo. Typically: 300BLK, 308, or 8.6Blk

3)Most suppressors do not require subsonic ammo. Typically only pistol suppressors have ratings if shooting a rifle round.

There is a wealth of knowledge on here and thousands of suppressors owned by TEXAGS members. PewScience is the best resource online.

https://pewscience.com/

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Thanks for the info! My AR-15 is meant to shoot 5.56. If I wanted to shoot 300BLK, would that require a barrel swap?

Yes just a barrel swap for 300blk. I hunt with both calibers. While 223/5.56 is a great caliber for shooting it is still pretty loud suppressed. 300 blk is quieter suppressed even shooting supers and have the option shooting subs. I typically hunt with supers.

I think the greatest selling point for 300blk is ability to shoot out of shorter barrels. A 16in. Barrel and 7-8 inch suppressor can be like a boat paddle some times. Switch to a 9inch barrel and 7 inch suppressor your overall length is just 16 inches.

5.56 gets its killing power from going fast. So short barrel in 5.56 kills its advantage. The 300blk bullet is 2x heavier than 5.56. You can lose velocity on a short barrel and still have plenty of energy. The range of 5.56 is further than 300blk. I would not shoot anything past 150 yards with 300blk but would feel ok shooting 5.56 to 400+.

However not much reason to switch unless you really just want to. I've probably killed 100 pigs with both calibers.

I'm sure other guys on this page will have differing opinions. Caliber choice is a touchy subject to some people. They hate it if it wasn't created 100 years ago. I'm more open minded and love to try new things.

12 pounder Napoleon with grape shot, targeted on the bait.

Does require some space to use.

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GentrysMillTX10 said:

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I have a few

I have a cheap AR with a red dot and a green light for illumination. This one rides on the can am with me. Gun + red dot + green light in sum was just under $500 new…but it works good!

Then I have a nice AR with a good scope. Fancy green light from elusive wildlife. Red laser on the barrel. I've had this one the longest. It's for sitting in the stand or spot/stalk. I have night vision binoculars or thermal monocular for spotting.

Then there's a browning .308 BAR with a pulsar thermal scope. I talked about thermal for a long time but never wanted to pay for it. So my dad bought this set up and put it in the safe. He said he probably won't use it and I can consider it an inheritance gift but can use anytime. It's been sitting in safe for 2 years, untouched lol

This is a surprisingly good product. Night vision binoculars for $100. https://militarymentalendurance.com/products/trailblazer%e2%84%a2-pro-1080p-night-vision-binoculars

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Thanks I just bought one!

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Site looks like a scam!???

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Yeah. Think I got took

I agree it looked shady but I texted you a video of how well it works.

Unless it's a well trusted vendor (Walmart, Amazon, etc.), I only buy from sites that use PayPal or Apple Pay and use those are my method of payment. Might not be any better but it makes me feel better at least! I have received a refund from PayPal before on a product that was never delivered.

I can text the sample video from the night vision to anyone that wants it. Just PM me a phone number

Email me at schmellba at yahoo.com. por favor

De nada

Gucci kit when chasing trash animals

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I agree it looked shady but I texted you a video of how well it works.

Unless it's a well trusted vendor (Walmart, Amazon, etc.), I only buy from sites that use PayPal or Apple Pay and use those are my method of payment. Might not be any better but it makes me feel better at least! I have received a refund from PayPal before on a product that was never delivered.

I can text the sample video from the night vision to anyone that wants it. Just PM me a phone number

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I should have sent DM to Gentry before posting.i did DMhim shortly after posting and he indeed sent a video to me of the product that was linked. The video was impressive for a $100night vision setup.
I was a little nervous after the purchase as the tracking service was none that I have seen. Thanks to gentry for help. I do look forward to using the product.

Thunderstruck xx said:

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I think I've decided on the trijicon credo hx. Can someone help me with how to choose the height of the scope rings? I see 1.54 inch height, 1.6 inch height, or 1.93 inch height typically. Is there an ideal hieght for running an LPVO? All of those heights would be compatible with the trijicon credo.

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I'd go 1.54 or 1.7 for mount height. I have a Nightforce NX8 1-8x in a 1.93 height mount and it isn't ideal for anything other than standing offhand.

I do a decent amount of shooting from kneeling through prone and the chin weld as opposed to a cheek weld isn't ideal from a consistency standpoint. Lots of people seem to like the Badger Ordnance 1.7" height mounts.

Thanks. I think we may be under feeding either way.

I didn't want to make it too complicated or expensive for the OP, but a suppressed 9" 300 blk with 110gr supers is what I use for night hog hunts. Lighter to walk around with for same energy as 16" 5.56. Where I hunt most frequently, I never take shots over 125 yards, so range isn't an issue. Like you said though, I've killed many pigs with both…right behind the ear.