I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the answer is still Ravelco. The need to remote start does not supercede the need to keep your truck from being stolen. I know YMMV and all that, but if you can't handle 10-15 minutes of an uncomfortable cab in exchange for essentially complete theft protection, I'm not sure what to tell you.

I don't know what IGLA is, but the ravelco harness is hard wired into your system and it's essentially not possible for a casual car thief to start and steal the vehicle on site when the fob is physically removed without spending hours of time and attracting way more attention than they are willing to do because they have to work outside the vehicle under the hood. If IGLA is 100% theft proof and allows you to remote start, that's great to hear. How much does it cost and how reliable is it?

My 2020 AT4 was stolen before Thanksgiving, I posted about it on the Houston board.

https://texags.com/forums/38/topics/3417727

It took them 1 minute to steal it from my driveway; never recovered. I replaced it with a 2024 AT4 HD, cable tied an AirTag underneath the seat and installed the Trackhawk kill switch into the ignition. No one is stealing my truck again

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Ravelco. Trust me on this.

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Yep.. Ravelco and a hidden AirTag ! I leave my ravelco in at home, remote start it as long as the it's plugged in..

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Hidden air tag is going to do nothing for you. They'll get a notification that an air tag is tracking their location and disable it within minutes.

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Then do a good job of hiding. They have to find it first.

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No they don't have to find the AirTag to disable it, if they have an IPhone they will get a notification on their phone within minutes that they are being tracked by an AirTag not connected to their iPhone and it will give them the option to disable tracking on the AirTag from their IPhone. Works the same for AirPods.

An AirTag for tracking criminals/theft of property will only work if the criminal doesn't have an iPhone. If they have an iPhone your airtag will be disabled within minutes regardless of if they physically find it or not.

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I've had the unfortunate luck of dealing with several situations with criminals, thieves and even illegal aliens. I know it's not a scientific study or anything, but I can't think of a single time any of them have had Apple products. They ALL had Android devices. I don't know why that is other than the fact the Apple products aren't cheap. Android devices are cheap, easy to get, available anywhere, and can be sacrificed with little monetary loss. An AirTag, in my opinion, it's a solid option, albeit not perfect or guaranteed. Looks like most other anti theft devices aren't much better.

Either way, The AirTag can be disabled for tracking by that one iPhone that notifies the user. It will continue to latch on to crowdsourced networks and allow the user to track it unless someone finds it and destroys it or removes the battery. To find it, they will have to listen for the beeping which is thought when the speaker is removed or taped over and it's buried deep in a body panel. While they are trying to find the AirTag at their ****hole apartment complex, AirTag is sending beacons home every time some patron passes it or it can grab a signal.
It's not perfect but it's something.

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Ravelco. Trust me on this.

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Yep.. Ravelco and a hidden AirTag ! I leave my ravelco in at home, remote start it as long as the it's plugged in..

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Hidden air tag is going to do nothing for you. They'll get a notification that an air tag is tracking their location and disable it within minutes.

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Then do a good job of hiding. They have to find it first.

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No they don't have to find the AirTag to disable it, if they have an IPhone they will get a notification on their phone within minutes that they are being tracked by an AirTag not connected to their iPhone and it will give them the option to disable tracking on the AirTag from their IPhone. Works the same for AirPods.

An AirTag for tracking criminals/theft of property will only work if the criminal doesn't have an iPhone. If they have an iPhone your airtag will be disabled within minutes regardless of if they physically find it or not.

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So if I buy an airtag to throw in a suitcase, or briefcase or backpack, or whatnot when traveling, and if I'm on a bus with a bunch of strangers, a random person has the ability to just shut it off? Seriously?

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No, if you the owner of the AirTag is nearby it will not send the notification. But, if you are not nearby and it is traveling with someone that has an iPhone that the AirTag is not registered with it will send the notification with the ability to make it make a chime so you can find it and the ability to have it stop tracking.

Essentially they were being used nefariously to track people without their knowledge so Apple put these protections in place to be able to find/disable them.

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That's not the way air tags work, it can't be disabled with another person's iPhone. A thief would have to physically remove the battery. Yes, they can get an alert and audible chime (if speaker is not deactivated). Apple tells you to physically locate the air tag to disable it or go to the police, no "remote disabling" option, which would of course defeat the whole purpose.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212227

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Read the link you sent, there are instructions in it for disabling an AirTag that is tracking you, even if you can't locate it.

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No, you can't. Read closer.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the answer is still Ravelco. The need to remote start does not supercede the need to keep your truck from being stolen. I know YMMV and all that, but if you can't handle 10-15 minutes of an uncomfortable cab in exchange for essentially complete theft protection, I'm not sure what to tell you.

I don't know what IGLA is, but the ravelco harness is hard wired into your system and it's essentially not possible for a casual car thief to start and steal the vehicle on site when the fob is physically removed without spending hours of time and attracting way more attention than they are willing to do because they have to work outside the vehicle under the hood. If IGLA is 100% theft proof and allows you to remote start, that's great to hear. How much does it cost and how reliable is it?

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Ravelco is great but it had 3 flaws in my book while I was doing my research: you have a physical "key" to remove or it doesn't work (didn't want to accidentally forget one day), the remote start reason already mentioned, and install requiring cutting on the front panels (from what I was told) in some vehicles.

I've got an IGLA system on 2 of my vehicles after having a previous truck stolen in the last 8 months so this conversation is a hot topic to me. IGLA is hard wired and won't be defeated by the casual thug.

They do run more ($1200) than Ravelco installed and there are places all over Texas that install them. I got my installed by Randall at ModFX in Spring.

Thanks for that info. I'll have to check them out on my next vehicle. I was referred to Ravelco on the auto board. Didn't know there was another effective option.

Given our current state of culture here in the US I won't own another vehicle without a true anti-theft system. I have no time or patience for a complete vehicle loss. My Ravelco was 1100 bucks, no front panel cutting. 2019 F250. Had it installed in Spring. They did it at a job site in about an hour.

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Thanks for that info. I'll have to check them out on my next vehicle. I was referred to Ravelco on the auto board. Didn't know there was another effective option.

Given our current state of culture here in the US I won't own another vehicle without a true anti-theft system. I have no time or patience for a complete vehicle loss. My Ravelco was 1100 bucks, no front panel cutting. 2019 F250. Had it installed in Spring. They did it at a job site in about an hour.

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$1100 Ravelco? YouSeriousClark.gif

I paid $649 last year in DFW. Did it in my garage.

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That's not the way air tags work, it can't be disabled with another person's iPhone. A thief would have to physically remove the battery. Yes, they can get an alert and audible chime (if speaker is not deactivated). Apple tells you to physically locate the air tag to disable it or go to the police, no "remote disabling" option, which would of course defeat the whole purpose.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212227

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Read the link you sent, there are instructions in it for disabling an AirTag that is tracking you, even if you can't locate it.

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Ok, I did. Now you try.

This thread prompted me to get an Igla installed tomorrow. I had been searching for something like this, but only found the Autowatch Ghost II system popular in England. Turns out that is the Igla rebranded.

Have y'all seen the unmatched reliability of Ligma Tracker?

I don't get the point of airtags if they can so easily be disabled.

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I don't get the point of airtags if they can so easily be disabled.

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You have to find the AirTag to disable it. And a hammer or pair of wire snips will disable any tracker anyway if they find it.

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I don't get the point of airtags if they can so easily be disabled.

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I think they're intended more to keep up with things you may misplace rather than as a theft deterrent.