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For those interested in the wolf program in CO

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Hoyt Ag
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Not really all that surprising.
McInnis
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Montana says it won't send wolves to Colorado and it sounds like Idaho is moving in that direction as well.

Montana says no

I talked to a friend who lives in Saratoga Wy yesterday. It's near the Colorado border and he said six wolves have already been killed in that area. These are wolves that have moved on their own from Yellowstone across hundreds of miles of red rock dessert. That genie's really hard to put back in the bottle.
cupofjoe04
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So: Coloradans (at least a significant portion of them) vote to force the DOW to come up with and enact a plan to reintroduce wolves. But, everyone who currently has wolves is refusing to be a party to this. So, where will CO get the wolves they "need"?

The only inevitable solution is that an ancient native specie of wolves will be grown in a lab using frog DNA, so we can have more control over their reproduction rates. The engineered wolves will mutate and get out of control. We will creat a vast wolf sanctuary in NW CO where they can be free and safe. Of course, they will break containment and begin terrorizing local neighborhoods, snatching people out of portapotties.

We then will be forced to take drastic measures, and someone will breed a new super wolf to hunt the reintroduced wolves- one crossed with North American black panther and chupacabra DNA. This will be stolen and sold on the black market, and become Russia's new weapon on the front lines of Ukraine. The US will have no choice but to be dragged into the war, employing our super top secret fighting robots that are controlled remotely by a team of pilots. This reveals the true purpose the Space Force was created, and launches a new international arms race of robot fighting tech development.

Those robots will eventually be developed with enhanced AI capabilities, and given more autonomy, which we all know will eventually turn on us and murder 3/4 the human population in order to "protect" the world from us. With the vastly reduced human presence on earth, they natural flora and fauna begin to thrive once again. The remaining humans return to the practices of our ancestors, being one with nature and the land, because that is the only thing that keeps us safe from the ever present gaze of our sentient robot overlords. Wolves are seen hunting packs of wild bison all across the central US, while people wait on the wings to scavenge the scraps. Order is finally restored.

JustPanda
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Sounds like they're coming from Washington/Oregon.
docb
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https://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/u-s-fish-and-wildlife-decision-to-provide-flexibility-in-gray-wolf-reintroduction/
Jack Squat 83
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I for one appreciate all of that effort, Joe. It was out there.
I don't think you know me.
Apache
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JustPanda
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docb
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https://www.steamboatpilot.com/news/colorado-parks-and-wildlife-shares-updated-regional-map-of-collared-wolf-activity/

https://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Pages/Wolves-Activity-Map.aspx

Amazing the range these wolves are covering. Thankfully they will likely have trouble acquiring more of them. Recent chatter is about re-introducing the wolverine although I have no idea where they would get those from.
Hoyt Ag
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Good news is 2 of them are trending north, and WY ranchers do not play around.
docb
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Hoyt Ag said:

Good news is 2 of them are trending north, and WY ranchers do not play around.
I wish they would have let all these wolves go in downtown Denver since that's who voted for them
Hoyt Ag
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Agreed. I saw the Denver Mayor was asking the residents to house the illegals. LOL.
marcel ledbetter
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Saratoga is a nice place! We really enjoyed that area when we lived in Rawlins.
mpl35
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Wolves are enjoying the west side!
docb
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neat little video of some of the wolf pups
WestTexAg12
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Update to this wolf program:

It's like everyone predicted. Multiple livestock killings.9 cattle and15 sheep, conservatively. But hey, we're gonna do it all over again in January 2025 but with more wolves.

https://www.chaffeecountytimes.com/news/cpw-to-release-gray-wolves-in-january/article_7cab5d16-beeb-11ef-80ce-6b0bd7377f96.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-wildlife-commission-urged-deny-110003867.html

I foresee this really becoming a problem once they reach their target of 50 introductions in 2028.

Leave it to democrats to mismanage funding and spend 7x what you said you would. Also, Polis is an idiot.

https://www.skyhinews.com/news/polis-blames-ranchers-for-high-cost-of-wolf-restoration-at-recent-meeting/

Quote:

In October, Colorado Counties members voted unanimously to ask Parks and Wildlife to pause wolf releases scheduled for December. One of its key concerns was the expense of the restoration.

Colorado Counties said while Proposition 114 originally estimated the program's costs at $800,000 annually, it has already required $5 million to date, and current funding levels remain insufficient. Given the status of the state budget, it seems unlikely that the funding challenges will be resolved this fiscal year.

Hoyt Ag
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Not shocking in the least bit. Its like we called it from the beginning.

At least Prop 127 failed in the election. A great loss to Polis' husband but he is gonna get it back on the ballot in 4 years.
WestTexAg12
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Hoyt Ag said:

Not shocking in the least bit. Its like we called it from the beginning.

At least Prop 127 failed in the election. A great loss to Polis' husband but he is gonna get it back on the ballot in 4 years.

Yep. I believe if Prop 114 would have been on the ballot this year instead of 2020, it wouldn't have passed.
Bayou City
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Team Wolf forever
"I've lived through some terrible things in my life, some of which have actually happened."

Mark Twain
Bayou City
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Why? Colorado is one of the few states that went further left in 2024 than 2020 and 2022.
"I've lived through some terrible things in my life, some of which have actually happened."

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WestTexAg12
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Bayou City said:

Why? Colorado is one of the few states that went further left in 2024 than 2020 and 2022.

Well, with that you are incorrect.

2020 pres election was D55.2% to R41.9%
2024 was D54.2% to R43.2%

Pretty sure the R Gabe Evans won the new District 8 congressional seat, flipped from 2022 when it was D.
WestTexAg12
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BradMtn346 said:

From a Colorado rancher, that recently learned the second introduction of wolves will be in his National Forest allotment.

First off, I have not read all the other comments. Usually I do before commenting, but it might've resulted in too much drinking and cussing.

Second, I'm fine with wolves in the counties that voted for them, but the statute said west of the continental divide. The only places that need them, Rocky Mountain National Park, is east of the divide.

Since the gray wolf has been relisted, all of Colorado's plans have to be approved by the feds, and for some reason, wolves are not allowed near their petting zoos, I mean National Parks, or any Indian reservation.

So their plan is to let them loose here. They say they will pay for wolf damage, but I know in Montana their budget for that ran out in 2 weeks.


Wolves in Colorado will turn more ranches into condos. Less habitat for all wildlife.

Colorado didn't learn from Montana.
Gunny456
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You are so right I'm afraid.

Hoyt. May you have a blessed, safe and fun Merry Christmas my friend.
NRH ag 10
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You should probably tell your teammates to stop destroying any and all goodwill with the people actually impacted by this farce.
Bayou City
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Outside of the ranchers, almost everyone I know in Garfield and Eagle and Pitkin and San Miguel and Routt are on team wolf. It's the western Garfield, moffat, rio blanco, montrose, delta, dolores and jackson county ranchers and the farm/ranch lobbiests making a killing off them keeping this thing alive that are up in arms about it and alot of people in the State don't really have a high opinion of that sub population because they are the most conservative parts of western CO. I hate to be the person that says it on an Ag board, but the opposition is a vocal minority Statewide and have little sway in Denver due to the D polticos knowing they will never carry their votes and don't need them to control the State Government. Honestly, at this point most people outside of the counties listed couldnt care less about them depredating live stock because it doesn't impact them. Heck they don't even remember 2020 or have chosen to forget the COVID years. People here are more worried about ski season not sucking than wolves killing a ranchers cow or sheep or goat that they will never meet. Once ski season is over people will care more about their TABOR refund. Its an issue that impacts -5% of the State population and the rest stopped thinking about it Nov of 2020. For most here it's Out of sight out of mind.

Honestly, people we're angrier State wide over them THINKING the State euthanized one of the males than they we're combined over all of the depredation events. When they found out the wolf had a gunshot wound, the good will of the ranchers went down the drain. Put another way, probs 90-95% of the State or more really really really don't care and Polticians don't care because their voters don't care and those that do care are voting for the Perry Wills of Congress that control 30% or less of the house and 35% or less of the senate. #Democracy.
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Seems like CO ranchers are still struggling with these wolves the government forced on them.

Still mind-bending insanity that some dumbasses who live along I-25 can vote for ranchers on the other side of a mountain range have wolves released on their land.
Bayou City
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Summit Pitkin & San Miguel too
BurnetAggie99
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Liberals transplants from California have ruined Colorado.
Jalapeno Popper
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Why are Texans concerned with this? Let coloradoans make their bed
duddleysdraw88
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Jalapeno Popper said:

Why are Texans concerned with this? Let coloradoans make their bed


It appears you have zero clue!
Bayou City
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Garfield County Team Wolf forever.

Not everyone is against them. In fact, most arent at this point. Who's against them? A small and Very vocal minority that make you think it's more because they just yell louder and louder but offer next to nothing for solutions.
Bayou City
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Texas transplants have ruined Colorado.

FIFY.
Bayou City
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Posted this back in December and nothing has changed.

Outside of the ranchers, almost everyone I know in Garfield and Eagle and Pitkin and San Miguel and Routt are on team wolf. It's the western Garfield, moffat, rio blanco, montrose, delta, dolores and jackson county ranchers and the farm/ranch lobbiests making a killing off them keeping this thing alive that are up in arms about it and alot of people in the State don't really have a high opinion of that sub population because they are the most conservative parts of western CO. I hate to be the person that says it on an Ag board, but the opposition is a vocal minority Statewide and have little sway in Denver due to the D polticos knowing they will never carry their votes and don't need them to control the State Government. Honestly, at this point most people outside of the counties listed couldnt care less about them depredating live stock because it doesn't impact them. Heck they don't even remember 2020 or have chosen to forget the COVID years. People here are more worried about ski season not sucking than wolves killing a ranchers cow or sheep or goat that they will never meet. Once ski season is over people will care more about their TABOR refund, once refunds are issueD, then it's wildfire Risk. At no point ever is it worry about a rich ranger living on a huge piece of property losing a goat or a donkey or a sheep or a cow that is one in 10,000 that I Associate w a feed lot outside of Limn. That's Not the truth but that's 97.82% of the populations projection. Its an issue that impacts -2% of the State population and the rest stopped thinking about it Nov of 2020. For most here it's Out of sight out of mind.

Honestly, people are angrier State wide over them THINKING the State euthanized one of the males than they were combined over all of the depredation events. When they found out the wolf had a gunshot wound, the good will of the ranchers went down the drain. Put another way, probs 95-98% of the State or more really really really don't care and Polticians don't care because their voters don't care and those that do care are voting for the Perry Wills of Congress that control 30% or less of the house and 35% or less of the senate. #Democracy.

Now you have alot more of these types articles….

https://www.aspentimes.com/news/colorado-parks-and-wildlife-reintroduction-of-gray-wolves-four-deaths-occured/#:~:text=Seven%20of%20Colorado's%2025%20reintroduced,not%20a%20cause%20for%20concern.

People have accepted the results but want to know the plan. At this point people want to see the wolves succeed and there be as few issues as possible. However, if it's between the two, most people now are ok w the wolves.

Wolf kills live stock - response - wolf doing wolf things
Wolf kills other Wolf - response - wolves doing wolves things
Mountain Lion kills Wolf - response - Wolf got natured
Human kills Wolf - response - where can we get more wolves?
Mas89
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It's big news when a wolf gets out of the Yellowstone area and into Idaho ranch land occasionally. They don't last long. When the wolf stocking and expansion started in different states, groups and Government agencies vowed to pay for livestock losses. Now they have created a very burdensome requirement which can often not be met if animal losses aren't immediately detected. These "wolf soy boy groups" and individuals should make sure they put up their money to reimburse for the affected rancher's losses quickly and fairly.

Crazy to think they want to expand the wolf range into areas wolves are not welcome in and where they can ruin people's livelihood of ranching and hunting. Looks like those efforts would be better spent trying to contain the wolves in their current habitats like Yellowstone instead of spreading them into Colorado.

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Bayou City said:

Texas transplants have ruined Colorado.

FIFY.

How so?
 
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