Breville grind and brew. As said above don't put crap beans in it and expect it to be amazing.

Jura. We have one and it's great.

Super automatic for me. Currently running a Miele but had a Saeco prior and it still works very well at the office.

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River Bass said:

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Mr. Coffee

Easy to use. Easy to clean. Cheap to replace.

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That's all a real man needs.

Regular coffee from a can bought at Walmart, too.

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Reminds me of this scene from No Country

And I must be in the minority because I hate Nespresso coffee.

I have a Miele. It's pretty awesome.

It's a built in machineyou said price doesn't matter, does that include some kitchen renovation?

Edit to add they do make counter top machines, I haven't used one. I'd assume they are as good

A Javabot......

Just dont get the cold coffee thing. Not my style I suppose, coffee is a hot frink for me. I tried to like cold coffee, but nope on that.

I usually pour three cups a day. Many days I get busy and later in the afternoon I have a half cup of cold coffee. It's actually pretty good - to me cold coffee has more flavor than hot coffee.

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Just dont get the cold coffee thing. Not my style I suppose, coffee is a hot frink for me. I tried to like cold coffee, but nope on that.

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Not a big fan of iced coffees where its more milk and melted ice than coffee.

Cold brew on the other hand tastes different. You could warm it up if you wanted it hot I guess. I like the higher caffeine content too. Wife refuses to have any of my cold brew after about 11 am or she won't be able to get to bed that night.

I like hot french press too but its easier to just grab and pour in the morning. Im lazy.

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I went down this path in the fall and ordered a Ratio Eight, which essentially automates pour over coffee. Shipping backlogs have resulted in it shipping this week, so I can't attest to performance yet.

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I got one of these in May 2020 and I love it. My one complaint is the glass carafe was very fragile, and I broke it washing it in my sink...I bought the metal insulated one with the ceramic dripper after that, and I like that set up way better honestly because it keeps the coffee warmer longer than the glass. A coworker of mine who also broke his glass carafe told me after the fact he e-mailed their customer service and was sent a replacement at no cost.
All that to say, overall I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Frieling Double-Walled Stainless-Steel French Press is nails and buy coffee in bulk from Third Coast Coffee out of Austin, TX.

https://thirdcoastcoffee.com/

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schmellba99 said:

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Just dont get the cold coffee thing. Not my style I suppose, coffee is a hot frink for me. I tried to like cold coffee, but nope on that.

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Not a big fan of iced coffees where its more milk and melted ice than coffee.

Cold brew on the other hand tastes different. You could warm it up if you wanted it hot I guess. I like the higher caffeine content too. Wife refuses to have any of my cold brew after about 11 am or she won't be able to get to bed that night.

I like hot french press too but its easier to just grab and pour in the morning. Im lazy.

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I absolutely hate cold coffee. But, the wife and I exclusively cold BREW. We buy coarse ground coffee. Sits for at least 24 hours. What you get is very concentrated coffee. We keep a carafe in the fridge. Mix half and half with water and nuke it. Coffee is very smooth with hardly any acidity. You can typically get two batches from one set of grounds.

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Too open ended of a question.

This is like asking. "what is the best gun to own?"

What are you looking for? Everything from a $20 drip coffee machine to $2000 home espresso machine could be the right answer depending on what, how and why you drink coffee.

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Why recommend a mid-range espresso machine when he said money isn't an object? If you want espresso, check out:
https://decentespresso.com/

For a classic lever machine, I almost bought one of these:
https://espressosuperstore.com/espresso-machines/e61-levers/e61-lever-full-size/

Seriously, if you want a really good drip coffee maker, pick one that's certified by the SCA:
https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer

Oh, and I have a Moccamaster that's currently mothballed, because I was underwhelmed with it. Previously had a kitchenaid that was SCA certified (no longer listed on there) that was better, but didn't fit in my current house (too tall for the location of my coffee area).

If you don't mind spending the time making it every morning, it's hard to beat a pour over or Chemex.

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I have a Miele. It's pretty awesome.

It's a built in machineyou said price doesn't matter, does that include some kitchen renovation?

Edit to add they do make counter top machines, I haven't used one. I'd assume they are as good

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I also have a built in Miele. I think I paid 3800. If it broke or burned down I would order a new one the same day. Love it!

Well since you didn't specify a max price range... we put these in our hotel coffee bars and after proper setup of the grinders and temps they turn out an incredible espresso.

Franke A1000 FM Super Automatic Espresso Machine with SU12 CM FoamMaster Fridge and 6 syrup Flavor Station (Commercial Use Only) - 2 grinders, 2 powders, hot water wand, locking containers, cup recognition, iQFlow, 2 gallon milk, 6 unit Flavor Station (price includes install and water filtration system) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RRCFH6L/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_MK8M2E3RK4FRFPBWH277

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Jura. We have one and it's great.

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We've had our Jura Z9 for about 9 years. We really like it.

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BQRyno said:

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I went down this path in the fall and ordered a Ratio Eight, which essentially automates pour over coffee. Shipping backlogs have resulted in it shipping this week, so I can't attest to performance yet.

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I got one of these in May 2020 and I love it. My one complaint is the glass carafe was very fragile, and I broke it washing it in my sink...I bought the metal insulated one with the ceramic dripper after that, and I like that set up way better honestly because it keeps the coffee warmer longer than the glass. A coworker of mine who also broke his glass carafe told me after the fact he e-mailed their customer service and was sent a replacement at no cost.
All that to say, overall I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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Good to know! I happened to order it with the thermal carafe, so sounds like I already dodged that bullet. Really looking forward to getting it months after ordering.

Jura E8

Bunn. Makes the best cup of coffee you will ever drink.

We have one. It's alright. Best cup? My Chemex or mokapot.

Ultimately it comes down to whether you correctly ground your beans to the type of brew

The worlds going to hell when OB contains multiple $300 + coffeemakers. I get a kilo of Costa Rican dark roast delivery from Amazon for $25 have a cuisinart bought for $69. Very solid

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Bunn. Makes the best cup of coffee you will ever drink.

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Why, because of the name? I have drank many cups of coffee from many Bunns at differing jobs and they all just tasted like coffee. Pretty sub par coffee actually…

Are there home gourmet versions vs the normal commercial ones?

What kind of dark roast are you getting for this price ??

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techno-ag said:

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Mr. Coffee

Easy to use. Easy to clean. Cheap to replace.

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That's all a real man needs.

Regular coffee from a can bought at Walmart, too.

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Reminds me of this scene from No Country

And I must be in the minority because I hate Nespresso coffee.

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My wife likes the nespresso for espresso, but their coffee is not drinkable

I've had some dang tasty coffee out of one of these or something similar. A few coffee grounds never hurt anybody.

So all this begs the question, what kind of coffee beans are y'all buying and using?

I'm the only one in my house who drinks coffee but I brew up an 8-cup pot every morning which fills my 30oz Yeti and 99.9% of the time that's the total of my coffee for the day.

The last few years I've really gotten to like the Independence Roasters (over in Independence, TX) "Jet Fuel" roast.

Every morning I grind the beans for my pot in this: Oxo Conical Burr Grinder

Filtered water and the Technivorm MoccaMaster makes a great cup of coffee. Maybe my palate isn't sensitive or sophisticated enough but I can recognize bad coffee and this makes a great brew. I also make it really strong- like I use grounds for 14-16 cups worth of coffee but only use 8 cups of water.

What does OP want to do with the coffee maker? What does OP want it to make?

Wife and I like espresso based drinks so we have a La Spaziale Linea Mini. We've been using it for about four years now. The upshot for La Spaziale is that there is a place that services the machines in Houston. So I can take it in, have it tuned up, cleaned, gaskets and seals replaced, etc. every year to keep it running like a top.

Second thing: like a lot of others have said, you will get a ton of mileage from a good grinder.

From there, good beans. Think of it like this: you can have the nicest kitchen in the world with all of the best equipment. But if all you're cooking is Spaghetti-Os and frozen fish sticks, you're still eating crap even though you cooked in with really nice equipment.

Aeropress. Does not get any easier to make or clean up than that.

I use that same grinder, like it a lot.

Dont want to say what company I use because they're already occasionally OOS of my favorite beans even without turning more people onto them.

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So all this begs the question, what kind of coffee beans are y'all buying and using?

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Folgers.

I went through this exercise 2 years ago and you're spinning your wheels unless your home water quality is good AND you like your coffee selection -- brand, roast, freshness, etc. If neither work, the maker isn't going to make your coffee any or much better than almost any $50-100 brand name maker (Braun, Mr. Coffee, etc.).

I bought a Bunn commercial maker (VP-17) pourover unit. This is the kind restaurants use, though they usually have the ones that are automatic (plumbed with water constantly flowing into them). The unit brews hotter coffee than homeowner units and SHOULD make better coffee. What I struggled with was that I figured out my water quality was poor enough that the benefit of a good maker wasn't overcoming that. Plus, it would have taken me another 2-4 weeks to come up with the exact coffee I liked compared to what I can get by going out. In the end, I had to return the Bunn because using bottled water wasn't cost effective or convenient.

If you LIKE (not just tolerate) your water out of the tap, or you are set on using bottled water, THEN you can start the coffee maker discussion. But if the latter, it may not be worth it. Just make sure you know that going in. Your coffee maker may not be what sucks is the main point here.

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I went through this exercise 2 years ago and you're spinning your wheels unless your home water quality is good AND you like your coffee selection -- brand, roast, freshness, etc. If neither work, the maker isn't going to make your coffee any or much better than almost any $50-100 brand name maker (Braun, Mr. Coffee, etc.).

I bought a Bunn commercial maker (VP-17) pourover unit. This is the kind restaurants use, though they usually have the ones that are automatic (plumbed with water constantly flowing into them). The unit brews hotter coffee than homeowner units and SHOULD make better coffee. What I struggled with was that I figured out my water quality was poor enough that the benefit of a good maker wasn't overcoming that. Plus, it would have taken me another 2-4 weeks to come up with the exact coffee I liked compared to what I can get by going out. In the end, I had to return the Bunn because using bottled water wasn't cost effective or convenient.

If you LIKE (not just tolerate) your water out of the tap, or you are set on using bottled water, THEN you can start the coffee maker discussion. But if the latter, it may not be worth it. Just make sure you know that going in. Your coffee maker may not be what sucks is the main point here.

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True, up to the last point. A multi stage water filter will do wonders for crappy tap water. I can't imagine buying bottled water to drink at home, much less for making coffee routinely. That said, I do occasionally nerd out and make third wave water for my espresso maker. Could be placebo effect, but it certainly seems to taste better. Just not worth it all the time.

If you're just looking to make a quality cup of black coffee, get a Chemex and quality beans. It is what we use at home and it makes the best black coffee ever.

I can't offer any help when it comes to the different machines making espresso and all that other stuff.

This thread is a very good subset of American coffee drinkers.

33% drink bad coffee and like it and tell everyone else their fancy coffee methods are a worthless waste of time and energy. Gimme dat gas station hot bean water.

33% like good coffee, but also have a good understanding of what level of commitment is required for great coffee. Buy a moccamaster drip and good grounds and I'm happy.

The last group has fallen down the rabbit hole. Water temp, water quality, proper filters pre wetted to remove any potential paper taste, fresh beans, correctly ground in the same hour it's used, etc. Only the perfect cup will do.

And strangely enough, this also applies to beer, and whiskey, and rifles.