If he was a Fort Hood soldier, the media would be all over this. Because of the narrative of deaths, missing people, murders going on there recently.
Missing Texas State Student
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If female, yeah ... for sure.
Why would it be a non issue?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I wanna point out that if this incident had occurred 800 miles to the west or north, the whole 'illegal narcotics' would be a total non issue.
And to the extent applicable, the K2 / chinese synthetic weed theory would be a non-issue as well.
Also, if this was a homicide involving some drug related dispute ... also, probably a non issue.
Just sayin.
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Ya'll watch way too much NCIS and Law & Order.
Does Waze show where cops are? Maybe there was activity on 183 and he was nervous about what he had in the car and was looking for alternate route? Maybe priors? Yep, I know. Overthinking!
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Does Waze show where cops are? Maybe there was activity on 183 and he was nervous about what he had in the car and was looking for alternate route? Maybe priors? Yep, I know. Overthinking!
Yes. Think of it as crowdsourcing Smokey Report.
John Cocktolstoy said:Why would it be a non issue?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I wanna point out that if this incident had occurred 800 miles to the west or north, the whole 'illegal narcotics' would be a total non issue.
And to the extent applicable, the K2 / chinese synthetic weed theory would be a non-issue as well.
Also, if this was a homicide involving some drug related dispute ... also, probably a non issue.
Just sayin.
Because he's a pothead and is attempting to be clever by using other states' marijuana laws to make a stupid point.
Weird, is that an iPhone thing? My Note 8 doesn't do that but the only other thing that gets used while Waze is running is an mp3 player app.Mr. AGSPRT04 said:Burdizzo said:
Turning off the Waze is also a question for me. I use Waze pretty regularly on long trips even when I know where I am going. I only turn it off when I get to my destination or if I need to save battery or data. If I get lost at night, I would not turn off Waze.
If I open or even use another app while running Waze, it oftentimes shuts down Waze forcing me to restart. Could have happened here.
I keep Waze on just about any time I get in the car. "Police reported ahead!" has saved my bacon more than a couple times by now.
Based on the evidence photos in the article, the kid looks like a typical recreational user. You'd probably find the same thing in a quarter of the dorms and apartments at TSU. Looks fairly typical for a college kid.SWC Ag said:John Cocktolstoy said:Why would it be a non issue?Stat Monitor Repairman said:
I wanna point out that if this incident had occurred 800 miles to the west or north, the whole 'illegal narcotics' would be a total non issue.
And to the extent applicable, the K2 / chinese synthetic weed theory would be a non-issue as well.
Also, if this was a homicide involving some drug related dispute ... also, probably a non issue.
Just sayin.
Because he's a pothead and is attempting to be clever by using other states' marijuana laws to make a stupid point.
I think the theories that he was a victim of some kind dispute over drugs or drug money is unlikely. It probably is what it is ... the kid was going home for Christmas and brought his stash with him.
This K2 / spice / synthetic weed stuff is dangerous and can make people go off the rails BSC similar to what may have happened in this case. Theres been an epidemic of the stuff in major cities, primarily with the homeless. They get ahold of this **** and go absolutely berserk. Don't know if thats the case here but certainly a possibility. This is less of an issue in legal states as college kids would just go to the dispensary and not risk messing with the synthetic stuff.
Weed is too easy to get and affordable in comparisons to K2, doubt K2 has anything related to this.
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I have started thinking this is all set up. Not finding any body by now makes me think he wants to disappear. I wonder what his room mates and girlfriend said.
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Thats a good point. I really cant see a college kid from San Marcos messing with the stuff for that reason. The dangers are more well known now that a few years ago.
I'm stretching for a plausible explanation why someone sheds their clothes in the middle of the road at night and runs off.
I'm stretching for a plausible explanation why someone sheds their clothes in the middle of the road at night and runs off.
From what I can tell they actually don't have any evidence that he was in his car at any point during that night.
Someone was using his phone in the car. Was there fingerprint activation of the phone?
On the other hand, they seem to not have any evidence of someone else being in the car. But surely at some point other people were in this car. We know his dad was in the car after the fact. He must have had friends in the car at some point that would leave some DNA behind. And that's one of the problems with DNA survey of the car. You don't know when or necessarily from whom.
Someone was using his phone in the car. Was there fingerprint activation of the phone?
On the other hand, they seem to not have any evidence of someone else being in the car. But surely at some point other people were in this car. We know his dad was in the car after the fact. He must have had friends in the car at some point that would leave some DNA behind. And that's one of the problems with DNA survey of the car. You don't know when or necessarily from whom.
That would make sense why he might have turned off 183 onto a "backroad".....but why would he turn Waze off? Wouldn't it make more sense to leave it on....so he would know where the cops/sheriff dept. were located? (using this theory)..... I thought he cut Waze off in Luling?Burdizzo said:UhOhNoAgTag said:
Does Waze show where cops are? Maybe there was activity on 183 and he was nervous about what he had in the car and was looking for alternate route? Maybe priors? Yep, I know. Overthinking!
Yes. Think of it as crowdsourcing Smokey Report.
He never turned. He continued straight (he missed the turn). Waze goes off, snapchat on, and that's all we know. Assuming that it was him in the car.
I'm curious if his car was completely emptied out of everything. Was anything but the phone left in it?
So before the crash, someone dumps all the belongings on the road? Or this is all removed from the car after the crash and dumped on the road?
Is it possible the car had turned around and was headed back before the crash?
Why did he have his pet fish in the car? Was that something he normally did for extended trips back home?
I'm curious if his car was completely emptied out of everything. Was anything but the phone left in it?
So before the crash, someone dumps all the belongings on the road? Or this is all removed from the car after the crash and dumped on the road?
Is it possible the car had turned around and was headed back before the crash?
Why did he have his pet fish in the car? Was that something he normally did for extended trips back home?
shiftyandquick said:
From what I can tell they actually don't have any evidence that he was in his car at any point during that night.
Didn't they find his scent trail that lead to the pond?
I don't know how that works. Did the dogs follow his scent specially or just a human scent that was in the car? I don't know
Did his Waze go off because he met up with someone and he turned it off when he got to the meeting point? Then followed another vehicle down the road and possibly wrecked or got intentionally ran off the road? Was he following and couldn't keep up or got blinded in the dirt road dust and wrecked?
Also, it seems odd how his clothes were strung down the road behind the vehicle and they are implying he took them off. It almost seems like someone was instructing/threatening him to walk and strip his clothes and drop them along the way? Then after that who knows, did they take him? All speculation here but just my thoughts.
Also, it seems odd how his clothes were strung down the road behind the vehicle and they are implying he took them off. It almost seems like someone was instructing/threatening him to walk and strip his clothes and drop them along the way? Then after that who knows, did they take him? All speculation here but just my thoughts.
I'm sure they are already doing this, but they need to go through all his electronic communications, in search of a possible motive. If it was premeditated foul play. Including trying to find anything that might have been deleted from his phone.
I've been wondering if they can find out other cell phones that were in the area?
I believe they towed the car as is and then his dad went through it because he was the registered owner.
I think he is eventually going to show up at home and it will become a personal matter. No other info released.
I believe they towed the car as is and then his dad went through it because he was the registered owner.
I think he is eventually going to show up at home and it will become a personal matter. No other info released.
They have given timeline from Waze. Had he texted, made a phone call, used Google earth (maybe to find a good spot)? Who was he snapping with? Still think another phone is a possibility.
I don't buy the theory that he walked away naked and shoeless. Think he had a change of clothes.
Random thought - Doesn't a train go thru Luling? When I lived in Austin would go thru heading south.. Coulda hopped on one and be anywhere.
I think a reward needs to be offered. I bet somebody knows something.
I don't buy the theory that he walked away naked and shoeless. Think he had a change of clothes.
Random thought - Doesn't a train go thru Luling? When I lived in Austin would go thru heading south.. Coulda hopped on one and be anywhere.
I think a reward needs to be offered. I bet somebody knows something.
Train in Luling is more East/West and in town. Pretty good ways away from where the car and belongs were found. Would have had to walk through town.
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Reading through the press release again, does it strike anyone as odd that he didn't seemingly bring any clothes home with him? Kid comes home for Christmas break with only a laptop and a few little things? I had a few things at my parents while I lived in the dorms, but I definitely brought a suitcase as well with clothes I was actively wearing.
It feels like there should have been one more bag. I wonder if there is surveillance on campus of Jason packing his car.
It feels like there should have been one more bag. I wonder if there is surveillance on campus of Jason packing his car.
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
May simply be a bad photo, but that weed looks off to me. Looks more like what I imagine that synthetic **** would look like.
Doubtful, this is actually what it looks like when you grind up whole nuggets when you're about to roll several joints like pictured. The reason it looks off is because he most likely left the main stem in the middle of a nugget when grinding and just rolled them up.
Like other posters have said, the chances of it being synthetic are very low. Weed is cheap and easily accessible on every major college campus in the country.
I hope the young man is found and his parents can get some peace.
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Bringing the fish makes sense if you're going home for the holiday break. Somebody's got to feed it.
The Waze shutting off when Snapchat opened thing makes more sense to me now that I think about it. Waze isn't exactly a lightweight app and I doubt Snapchat is either, and I could see the phone ending that process to free enough resources to run the other. However he would've started getting notices about his upcoming right turn 1,000 feet ahead of time. That's at least half a minute before he got to the intersection which is pretty obvious because it's the first 'major' one you arrive at when you get to Luling.
My theory is the simple one - distracted by Snapchat and missed the turn, possibly baked and unaware of his screwup, ends up going too fast on an unpaved road and damages dad's car (sustains head injury?), then freaks out about it. Can't remember if it's more cattle or farming over there since I'm from the other side of 35, but it wouldn't surprise me if something turns up once spring rolls around.
The Waze shutting off when Snapchat opened thing makes more sense to me now that I think about it. Waze isn't exactly a lightweight app and I doubt Snapchat is either, and I could see the phone ending that process to free enough resources to run the other. However he would've started getting notices about his upcoming right turn 1,000 feet ahead of time. That's at least half a minute before he got to the intersection which is pretty obvious because it's the first 'major' one you arrive at when you get to Luling.
My theory is the simple one - distracted by Snapchat and missed the turn, possibly baked and unaware of his screwup, ends up going too fast on an unpaved road and damages dad's car (sustains head injury?), then freaks out about it. Can't remember if it's more cattle or farming over there since I'm from the other side of 35, but it wouldn't surprise me if something turns up once spring rolls around.
There is just so much to this story that we will not be told. I bet his clothes in the dorm are gone. He is packed to go somewhere and did not leave with just the clothes they found. There are not as many cameras in Luling as you think there would be, and at that time of night Luling is a ghost town and anyone driving around would be just the type to give him a lift if he asked. After this amount of time he has not shown up anywhere, he is not dead on property out there from injury from wreck or just exposure. He leaves phone which no kid his age is willing to do. He leaves wallet which has his ID. He does not want to be tracked or ID'd. He has let his hair and beard grow to hide age and other personal identifiers. It is planned. I just feel he does not want to be found.
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I'm going with dead.
But we'll see.
Strange story all the same.
But we'll see.
Strange story all the same.
This has been my feeling all along.
Someone mentioned reward. I thought there was one offered early on?
Someone mentioned reward. I thought there was one offered early on?
Did they issue a CLEAR alert?
I don't know that they originally thought he was in imminent danger.
My only problem with that theory is that it seems so hard to pull off, especially in this day and age. He would have had to plan it perfectly and have an accomplice. Land borders into Mexico are closed right now (which is where you hear most of those go) and he has no ID. Even if he really did have grand plans to be off-the-grid homeless somewhere, how is he getting there from Luling in the middle of the night?
He's an adult, he could have just left at any time and kept all his stuff with him. The only way running away like that makes sense is if he was running from a threat and he's hoping someone else is convinced he's dead. But if it a threat is that bad that all of this is more worth it then looping in family, then he's in some bad **** way too deep.
He's an adult, he could have just left at any time and kept all his stuff with him. The only way running away like that makes sense is if he was running from a threat and he's hoping someone else is convinced he's dead. But if it a threat is that bad that all of this is more worth it then looping in family, then he's in some bad **** way too deep.
Or it's his family he wants to be away from.
We just don't know all the facts that go with this story. When the authorities don't report much it means they are still investigating. When the parents start complaining because there is nothing happening it is scary since they are at wits end and want answers. He has gone missing...no stories on the news with friends talking about him, or family begging for information. He wants to be gone. Just my gut.
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I wonder if he had gone missing before and returned shortly after?
I think I read where this was his first semester at Texas State. He is 21. Wonder what he had done before.
I think I read where this was his first semester at Texas State. He is 21. Wonder what he had done before.
He was already away from them. Execute whatever plan you have out of San Marcos, not agree to visit and crash the car in Luling. Heck, if he just stopped going to class and left his car in the dorm parking lot, people might not have started searching for a few weeks especially if he left a message with a roommate that he was going to stay with a girl for a few days.
We have no idea what their relationship was. Being physically away doesn't mean they aren't still mostly in control of your life.