If you want to shoot a polymer pistol with a surprisingly good trigger, you should try a PMR 30.

maverick2076 said:

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If you want to shoot a polymer pistol with a surprisingly good trigger, you should try a PMR 30.

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The Sig 320 triggers arent bad, the Walther PPQ is nice, the HK VP9 is okay too.

In all honesty the only metric by which most polymer triggers fail the "good trigger" test is in comparison to a 1911, and basically everything is going to fail compared to a straight pull single action trigger so....

The vast majority of polymer guns out there have perfectly shootable triggers, IMO.

I agree that most polymer triggers are just fine and can be good, or can be made to be good. The PMR 30 is the one that really surprised me with how good it was, especially when I compared it to my other Kel Tecs. It's not jus good for a KT. It's a really nice trigger.

I'll reiterate a lot that's been posted. If you aren't willing to wear it everyday you probably won't carry it. It's a compromise of how big a gun you can carry (weight wise), how big a gun (clothes selection wise), and what you are confident shooting.

I'm 5' 10" 170. I am not built to conceal g17 or 1911 gov model. G19 is pushing it. Plus I wish to carry wearing shorts and a tshirt. A critical dimension that comes into play is the thickness of the gun. I could conceal my g43 so much easier than my p320 based on thickness alone.

The best compromise I could put together was the p365xl. With the extended mag I have the same rounds as a g19 in a smaller package. The g48 w/15 round mags didn't exist when I purchased. I love what I have in the 365xl.

Definitely get a gun belt. You'll never want a normal belt again.

I enjoy Orlando but much prefer the scenery at Las VEGAS

G42 for me. Ive tried everything from 1911 down to a Keltec 32 over last 15 yrs or so. Glock 42 is the best ive found yet.

I used to rotate between a p365 and 938. Now almost exclusively carry the 365.

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I used to rotate between a p365 and 938. Now almost exclusively carry the 365.

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Not to completely derail the OP, but I'm trying to figure out if I want to buy one of these two. Mind elaborating what has you thinking p365? My dad has the 938 and I was leaning that way but I'm seeing a lot of people talking about the 365...

During the hot weather I carry a Glock 43 X in an Alien Gear appendix holster.

It's great for shorts and a tee shirt.

Other times I carry a Sig 320 X Carry. Nice pistols.

365 is probably one of my favorite guns. I have the SAS version and the thing is just as accurate as my 4.5" guns. Very easy to conceal and easier to shoot.

Have carried a 938 for years and really like it. Just picked up a 365.

So far I shoot the 365 better than the 938. I think I would prefer to carry the 938, it's just a bit smaller, but combo of a couple more rounds and personal accuracy lead to the switch.

I'd like to carry either/or depending on clothing but I just don't think it's smart for me to switch back and forth between a mini 1911 with a safety/SAO and a modern striker/DAO.

The biggest difference for me is that I'm more accurate and draw faster with my 365 holster setup. Secondarily is the additional magazine capacity of the 365. I'll surely get flamed on here, but I don't carry a second magazine, mainly because I haven't found a setup I like that doesn't require me to wear a belt. Both my 938 and 365 have the manual safety so cross training between the two was a bit easier.

Tried a neomag?

That chart pretty well nails it. Carrying it matters the most, then even split between placement and penetration.

I weight shoot ability a bit more than others. I like practicing with my carry guns and carry loads. As such, I shoot "wadcutters" mostly.

I'd rather carry "normal" loads, and change them out every week at my shooting session, than carry "special" rounds for a year. (But I do carry special loads in my 57, which I keep as a back pack gun, along with 4 reloads for it.)

For me it is a glock 19.YMMV

BenderRodriguez said:

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Tried a neomag?

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I have not but I ordered one last night. Thanks for the rec

fire09 said:

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BenderRodriguez said:

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Tried a neomag?

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I have not but I ordered one last night. Thanks for the rec

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No problem.

If you hate it, reach out and I'll buy it from you. Really like it as an alternative to belt mounted or loose in pocket.

As for pistols I endorse anything you can get all 4 fingers around. If your pinky is left hanging off its going to be a lot harder to shoot. If you absolutely want a micro pistol, there are magazine extenders that add a round or two and give you back your pinky. I dont carry anything shorter than 4 inches myself though. You can carry a full size like a 1911, but its going to be a lot heavier and will necessitate a gun belt.

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I dont carry anything shorter than 4 inches myself though.

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#humblebrag

Definitely look at the Glock slimlines - 42, 43, 43x, 48. I have a 42, it was a gift given to me before the 43s came out, but I love it, its the pistol that rides in the Jeep with me everywhere I go. I'll eventually pick up a 43x or 48 at some point this year.

I love my Glock 43 but if I was in the market right now I would take a hard look at the Springfield Hellcat.

I appreciate all of the responses to this thread. I purchased a hellcat, love it. Problem is the wife likes it more than her LC9 that we purchased a few years ago. She wants one for herself now.

We also put some rounds through my XD 45. Wife liked it more than either of the 9mms. The 13 yr old had the same opinion. But as far as the compact goes the hellcat was the favorite.

Army buddies turned me on to the https://tier1concealed.com/collections/allholsters/products/axis-elite?variant=17963595235399

Once again thank y'all.

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I'll always choose semi auto.

As far as what type, the usual advice is go handle and shoot one, and find one that's most comfortable for you.

For me, that's a Smith and Wesson M&P Shield or 9C.

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Why auto? Magazine size? Rate of fire? Do you carry hot? What are the advantages of an auto vs a revolver?

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1) If you're going to carry, carry hot. Time matters.
2) isn't a revolver always technically "hot" unless you follow the old cowboy rule for single actions and have the hammer sitting on an empty cylinder?

I agree will be carrying hot. Taking the CC course next weekend. Spoke to an instructor about more advanced training for the family. We put a few hundred rounds down range today. I want the wife and child to get some more basic marksmanship training and go from there.

Any recs on basic to advanced firearms training in the League City area? The gentleman I spoke with is from www.uttraining.com.

Any suggestions?

Similar situation here. Wife and I recently took LTC course. she got priority on the first firearm because she is a woman and we got her a Walther PPS and she loves it and has already put in a few hundred rounds with it. she just loves shooting it.

I have a list of top 3 picks i want to try based on articles I have read, but in today's climate I am having trouble finding them outside the online market and having trouble finding more than one at one of the local ranges to rent for a test session...and i would REALLY like to have two in my hand if I am going to test them so i can compare.

ANYHOW....I was wondering if anyone on here has fired or carried one of these and can give feedback-

Springfield Hellcat. Have heard a mix of reviews. capacity sounds great but I have a friend who works as a Smith and says he has had to repair alot of these since they have come out. I have also heard about trigger safety issues/concerns. sounds like a couple guys here have them...pros and cons?

H&K VP SK- I have handled this one but not shot it. i like the grip but the grip is pretty thick and i think the mag is double stacked which may make for a less comfortable EDC.

FN 509 Compact- Don't know much about this one TBH but every review i have read on this one just sings its praises.

any help is super appreciated!

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Oldman02 said:

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zooguy96 said:

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I'll always choose semi auto.

As far as what type, the usual advice is go handle and shoot one, and find one that's most comfortable for you.

For me, that's a Smith and Wesson M&P Shield or 9C.

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Why auto? Magazine size? Rate of fire? Do you carry hot? What are the advantages of an auto vs a revolver?

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1) If you're going to carry, carry hot. Time matters.
2) isn't a revolver always technically "hot" unless you follow the old cowboy rule for single actions and have the hammer sitting on an empty cylinder?

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Correct, and with modern transfer bar revolvers, carrying a round under the hammer is not a problem.


I am a big fan of J and K frames. Grew up shooting them. I'm also a fan of 1911's. It's all muscle memory for me now and it's not important enought to me to learn how to shoot anything else reliably.

So out of those two choices, I prefer the J frame for carry-ability. And out of that I prefer the .38 because it makes the lighter J easier to shoot. Don't go thinking you "need" a .357 for your carry weapon. Yes, a .38 is less deadly, but it's still plenty deadly all on it's own. Plenty of police used them effectively for many decades. .38 will let you shoot and shoot and shoot at the range without killing yourself. You'll get better faster, and you'll develop less flinch if the round isn't killing you everytime you pull the trigger.

All that said, you can always shoot .38 out of a .357. So if you are curious just get the bigger one, and shoot the smaller round. No shame in that game. Plus the .357 will be worth more at resale if you decide to trade up.

P365 here. Recently acquired. Made my shield a safe queen. Only upgrade in looking at is a 12rd Mag and maybe a flat trigger. Love it so far.