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Pro Plan Shredded chicken for my lab. He loves it.
He also loves grass, cat turds and sneaking into the neighbors cow pasture for his favorite desert.
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AnScAggie said:

RCR06 said:

I guess if anything I made an assumption that when you recommended doing something it's because that's what you are doing. If that's trolling then I'm a troll(besides mcdadetxaggie I don't think anyone has ever accused me of trolling). I was genuinely trying to understand why someone would give advice that they weren't following.

I completely understand not paying $75 or more for a bag of dog food. If what you are doing works for your dog that's all that really matters.
I completely understand not paying $35 for a bag of dog food. These critters were domesticated by eating true table scraps, spending more than $35/bag for the big bag is foolish.


I can give lots of advice that I won't follow for obvious reasons. I have 4 large dogs and 5 kids. If I had no children and 1 dog I would probably expand my budget.

You'll notice I had Diamond on my initial list along with better brands. Years ago, Diamond was my go-to cheap dog food for those on a budget. The OP never said how much he or she could spend. I gave a general guideline that I felt was helpful
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raw meat
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McDadeTXAggie said:




I can give lots of advice that I won't follow for obvious reasons. I have 4 large dogs and 5 kids. If I had no children and 1 dog I would probably expand my budget.

You'll notice I had Diamond on my initial list along with better brands. Years ago, Diamond was my go-to cheap dog food for those on a budget. The OP never said how much he or she could spend. I gave a general guideline that I felt was helpful
You are either an idiot or a troll. Probably both.
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Dogdoc said:

McDadeTXAggie said:




I can give lots of advice that I won't follow for obvious reasons. I have 4 large dogs and 5 kids. If I had no children and 1 dog I would probably expand my budget.

You'll notice I had Diamond on my initial list along with better brands. Years ago, Diamond was my go-to cheap dog food for those on a budget. The OP never said how much he or she could spend. I gave a general guideline that I felt was helpful
You are either an idiot or a troll. Probably both.


Because I was right and your little colleague was wrong

**edit it was actually you lol**
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GSS said:

McDadeTXAggie said:

I did lots of research on dog food years ago. The answer is whatever your dog likes that isn't filled with corn and other fillers.

Look at the first 5 ingredients, that's what makes the bulk of the dog food. You want things like chicken, peas, carrots, beef, turkey, fish etc. If the word corn in any fashion pops up in the first 3 ingredients, stay away from it.

There are tons of great brands but they can be pretty pricey. Taste of the Wild, is really good. That's just one of many,


This is more entertaining than Netflix....


Couldn't agree more. I'm fascinated by this.
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Dogdoc said:

McDadeTXAggie said:




I can give lots of advice that I won't follow for obvious reasons. I have 4 large dogs and 5 kids. If I had no children and 1 dog I would probably expand my budget.

You'll notice I had Diamond on my initial list along with better brands. Years ago, Diamond was my go-to cheap dog food for those on a budget. The OP never said how much he or she could spend. I gave a general guideline that I felt was helpful
You are either an idiot or a troll. Probably both.


Im starting to think a vet pissed in his Cheerios or stole his girlfriend in college.
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No, being called an idiot by someone who is giving out wrong information and arguing with me (I was right) was ironic
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Gordon McKernan
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Picking up our Vizsla puppy soon & going to start her on Blue Buffalo Chicken & Brown Rice Puppy. I think it was $47 for a 34lb bag but then I received a bunch of discount for being our first order from Chewy. Hope she likes it.

How is the quality of Costco Adult dog food? Once off the puppy mix & into regular adult food would love to start buying from Costco as we are there on a regular basis already.
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One of the vets earlier recommended going with something from hills, purina, or royal canin(all well established dog food companies). This is the same vet that McDadeTXAggie thinks was giving out wrong information and arguing with him when he was right, so depending on what you think of bmfvet or McDade that might help you decide how to proceed.

Kirkland's is probably fine. I saw lots of victor and purina pro plan recommendations, as well as a variety of others. It seems like someone recommended kirklands and someone used it on a previous dog, but switched foof for their current dog after a suspicious illness and later death of their dog. May or may not have been related to the dog food.
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To summarize:

bmfvet



McDade


Slamn Sharpe
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I know the vet that said the ingredients label was wrong/lies was giving out wrong information. I've also said this about a half dozen times but the trolling continues

I'm out
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I can't decide who is more insufferable, Mcdadetxaggie or Kevin Stubbs -Expedition Outfitters. It's a toss up at this point.
FWIW- I feed my pound puppy Rachel Ray stuff from Walmart and she's doing fine. Other than being neurotic. It's probably the corn fillers doing that though.
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McDadeTXAggie said:

I know the vet that said the ingredients label was wrong/lies was giving out wrong information. I've also said this about a half dozen times but the trolling continues

I'm out
The vet who recommended hills, purina, and royal canin is the one you say was giving out the wrong information about the ingredients list. Thats what I put in my post. It was all correct information based on what was said in the thread. Please continue to call me a troll.

Please explain how you know that was wrong information? He never said the labels were wrong or lies. What he said is that they can manipulate the ingredients to make it look like there are less fillers and more meat in the first ingredients.
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As you continue to show your ignorance about dog food. I'll try to give you a little information on how labels are manipulated towards the marketing of the "first 3 or 5 ingredients " on the label. Do you know how they are put in order? It is by weight of raw ingredients. You take a meat product which has very high water content which adds a lot of weight to the raw ingredient (which by the way is mostly cooked out of the final product) so it artificially appears to be more. Then you take rice or corn or whatever other ingredients and break them down into components (rice meal, rice hulls, and on and on) that are in a dry form, thus lower weight each, and magically they fall down lower on the ingredient list even though they make up more of the final product than your precious meat that was first on the ingredient list. Some companies play this manipulation game and some do not. Glamour words like human grade (which has no definition and anyone can throw it on their label), no byproduct, and fillers get thrown around and marketed because the public eats it up. And surprisingly, corn does have nutritional value, think about the corn being ground up and not the whole kernels that you're staring at in your turd in the toilet. It contains some antioxidants, vitamins, and protein that is of value in an overall balanced diet. It doesn't matter if those ingredients come from corn, wheat , or some rare sourced, organic, "fully digestible", wild blueberry found only on one island in the world. The key is having a balanced diet that is appropriate for your dog and not getting caught up in all the marketing bs.
To use his example lets say 30% of your dog food is rice, they could break this down into rice hulls, rice meal, and rice protein(just made that one up). Now by splitting them into separate parts they say well each one of those is only 10% each so it falls down the ingredients list. So even though its 30% rice they have made it appear on the label that it has a far less percentage of rice. If you're really studying the label closely you may catch that there are three forms of rice in the product, but I imagine many people don't look that far down the ingredients list.

Here is a link to tufts university vet school nutritionist who wrote an article on picking a pet food.
https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2019/12/pet-food-decisions-how-do-you-pick-your-pets-food/
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Wanted to thank those who put real advice response for the advice (and I guess the idiotic responses for the humor.)

Been having trouble getting the new puppy to eat his food. Had tried several but he seemed to prefer the prescription Royal Canin low fat kind the adults are on because one got pancreatitis. Not only is it ridiculously expensive, but it really isn't right for a pup. Tried Iams, (that's what the rescue had him on, RC puppy, SD puppy - he ate them sometimes.)

Tried Purina Pro Plan Puppy focus because it came up here (remember Purina was all we ever fed growing up and our dogs always lived long happy lives - but got away from it with all the advertising I guess.) Gave him his first bowl tonight and he inhaled it.
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For the record, nutrition labels on HUMAN food are terribly misleading because of the power of lobbyists and our idiotic government - take a dive down that wormhole sometime. Why on earth would you doubt what the vet said about pet food companies' marketing departments intentionally misleading with ingredient labels on DOG food? As a country we spend an insane amount of money on our pets.

I'm gonna side with the vets.
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Pro Plan been working great for both my dogs. 3yo terrier mutt and 8mo lab
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Absolute said:

For the record, nutrition labels on HUMAN food are terribly misleading because of the power of lobbyists and our idiotic government - take a dive down that wormhole sometime. Why on earth would you doubt what the vet said about pet food companies' marketing departments intentionally misleading with ingredient labels on DOG food? As a country we spend an insane amount of money on our pets.

I'm gonna side with the vets.



Staying true to texags tradition
Absolute
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McDadeTXAggie said:

Absolute said:

For the record, nutrition labels on HUMAN food are terribly misleading because of the power of lobbyists and our idiotic government - take a dive down that wormhole sometime. Why on earth would you doubt what the vet said about pet food companies' marketing departments intentionally misleading with ingredient labels on DOG food? As a country we spend an insane amount of money on our pets.

I'm gonna side with the vets.



Staying true to texags tradition
Whatever dude. You are a an fing idiot and a troll. Go away. Welcome to ignore.
RCR06
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McDadeTXAggie said:

Absolute said:

For the record, nutrition labels on HUMAN food are terribly misleading because of the power of lobbyists and our idiotic government - take a dive down that wormhole sometime. Why on earth would you doubt what the vet said about pet food companies' marketing departments intentionally misleading with ingredient labels on DOG food? As a country we spend an insane amount of money on our pets.

I'm gonna side with the vets.



Staying true to texags tradition
Staying true to McDadeTXAggie tradition
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Just switched my dog over from taste of the wild to Purina one. Even after same quantity the food, my dog still seems extremely hungry. even after she eats she'll sit at my feet, sit at her bowl... acts as though she hasn't been fed yet.
Does she just like the change in food or is purina not a "filling" as taste of the wild?
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STL_aTm said:

Just switched my dog over from taste of the wild to Purina one. Even after same quantity the food, my dog still seems extremely hungry. even after she eats she'll sit at my feet, sit at her bowl... acts as though she hasn't been fed yet.
Does she just like the change in food or is purina not a "filling" as taste of the wild?


More quality nutrition in the food, the less they need. I'm gonna go waaaaay out on a limb, make a "crazy and wild" guess... but I'm willing to bet Taste of the Wild, has less corn
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Disclaimer: I sell pet food at an "independent retailer" and carry everything from Iams to Orijen. My biggest sellers are ones made by Purina, and not just because they have 40000 different varieties, but because of two factors. The first is the research put into their foods. The more testing is done, the more refined the product, the higher the cost. The second factor is me.

Last year, I was taking to a veterinary board-certified nutritionist who was also a rep for science diet. Since Hill's reformulated recently, they can no longer have an AAFCO feed tested statement on foods and can only say AAFCO formulated. When I asked her why her "lesson" heavily slammed foods that were formulated and not tested (she said that formulated foods could contain cancer-curing unicorn farts and still be approved with the minimum vitamin and mineral contents), yet SD was labeled as formulated, I could get no straight answer. The response I got was "It's because there is science in the name, and I wouldn't expect you to understand if you don't have DVM after your name." So I simply trade my customers onto Purina.

Ultimately, there's a wide variety of foods to fit almost every need and almost every budget. If your dog is "allergic" to every protein under the sun and you can only afford to spend $0.35 on a 200# bag of hydrolized protein food, I know you can find a solution.

For those asking, I'm currently feeding a raw diet to two cats. Both catch everything they eat, and I leave out water for them. The chihuahua is on a raw diet as well, since she refuses to chew. I spend $22.87 every six weeks to feed her, or $3.60something/wk to feed a locally made hippy *****
 
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