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The old guy gives unsolicited advice...photography

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CanyonAg77
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You all know I'm an opinionated old (creeping up on 65) grouch. Maybe you also know that I'm a mid-level amateur photographer.

It also happens that over the last few decades I've done lots of photo presentations, such as for the kids' XC and soccer teams. Put some stuff together for my Dad's funeral services. Currently working on photos for MIL's 90th next month, and my Mom's 90th in June.

I've learned a lot about what makes a photo good from that point of view. So here's what the old guy is going to tell you about taking photos, and making them worth looking at in 10-20 years and more:


1) Ease up on scenery.

I'm the world's worst on this. I love sunsets and outdoor shots and the like. I'll burn lots of DSLR shutters flops on airplanes and museums and majestic views.

Guess what? For the most part, no one cares. Or, at most, you'll get Facebook likes or TexAgs stars for a few days, then it's passe. People want to see the sights for themselves. Or they'll go to a web site where someone a lot better than you posts photos.

My MIL, for instance, did a year study abroad in France in the early 1950s. We have a ton of photos of churches and museums. Totally useless. The photos are small and grainy and mean nothing to us. You know what would have made them meaningful?


2) People

Now if MIL had taken a photo of the Eiffel Tower, with her in the foreground, that would have been something worth keeping. Go ahead and take that shot of the wonderful vista you see....but for Pete's sake, put your wife and kids in the foreground. And when you do:


3) Get close to the subject

On the few photos of MIL's that have people in them, the cathedral or whatever takes up 99% of the frame. The people maybe 2-3%. Remember, the person is who your grand kids want to see, not the building. Get them close enough that the people are the focal point, the monument or whatever is background. And please, please,please, please FOCUS!


4) Include common objects.

Some of my Dad's photos are very cool because of the common things that were accidentally caught in the background. Mom took a photo of Dad and my older brother, age 2. They were standing in the drive way next to Dad's '54 Chevy pickup, with a custom double stack bumper of some sort.

I'm sure that Mom and Dad, at the time, weren't really thinking about the pickup, but as a car nut, I loved seeing the old truck, and learning what Dad drove at the time.

I'm sure a lot of you are thinking that a 2019 pickup isn't that interesting. Do it anyway for your grand-kids. Think how cool it would be to see your granddad with his pride and joy 1969 Chevy. They'll be the same way about your 2019 when 2069 rolls around.

As a farmer, this really hits me. I love seeing the old equipment that Dad used, and how he modified it. And I'm well aware that the stuff that was so new and shiny to me a few years ago is quickly becoming outdated.

On one of the photo threads I'll link below, a guy posted a photo of his dad or uncle, standing next to another relative on a tractor. The one standing was in uniform, on his way to report back to his unit in WWII.

You can't beat that kind of photo.

Take everything, your kitchen, your workshop, the kid's toys...but make sure the kids and family are in the photos, too.


5) Include special places or objects

MIL was in France in 1952. Took zero photos of any war time damage or battlefields. Really? But, more to this board, how visible was your gun in the last deer kill photo you took? Did you take a photo of the blind, or the hunting camp?

The place I grew up on had a 1920s house, a 1930s barn, and other outbuildings. Mom and Dad built a new house in late 1959, and cleaned up the other outbuildings through the years. I would have loved more photos showing the old place as it was, and as it evolved. Same goes for my grandparent's farms.

Didn't we just have a poster here trying to figure out which gun was his dad's and which was his granddad's? What if they'd prominently featured the gun in a deer kill shot, or taken close photos of the custom features?

We've also just had a thread about "heritage" guns. Your grand-kid will be thrilled to inherit your special rifle. He'll be more thrilled to also have a photo of you holding it.


6) LABELS!

Yeah, trying to figure out who is who in 80-year-old pictures is a pain. We even ran across some unlabeled tintype photos. Good luck getting ID on a photo that was made in 1890 or earlier. Names, dates, locations, please!


More unneeded, unsolicited advice to come, I'm sure. Add your photo advice below.
FriscoAggieFan
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This is fantastic. Grouch or not, I am 100% confident we would be friends.-)
Thanks for sharing your wisdom and keep it comin'!!!
Stasco
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Excellent practical advice. Especially about the scenery. My grandfather, who died in the 60s of a heart attack when my Mom was still young, took tons of hone video on one of their road trips. 90% of it is scenery, which no one cares about. I went through it all and pulled out the 10% of it that features family members. That's far and away the important part.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
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Great advice!

The one I'm starting to really enjoy is having a lens with a good macro setting. Stuff I'm getting of my kids is hilarious and priceless.

Also, Fibonacci knew a thing or two. Let his sequence guide your composure.
FancyKetchup14
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A lot of good advice. I'd also recommend taking more photos than you think. I can't tell you how many times I've gone back and noticed something in the background after the fact. Take candid shots. And to be patient to wait for a shot you like.

Personally I love landscape and street photography. But I know what you mean of getting "you" in the photo. I post my photos on social media as a collection and timeline of the development of my photography hobby, and I've noticed that photos of "you" get more of a reception than landscapes/street.
CanyonAg77
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Good advice on the candids. When I took photos of the kids sports teams, I hung around a lot during pregame and when they were doing non-sports activities.

They got used to me being around, and started ignoring me. That's when you get the good shots.
CanyonAg77
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And because I love to show off my photos, many of which are taken in direct contradiction of the advice above, here's a few links

Yellowstone

Panhandle Photos

Old Farm Equipment

Buffalo Lake NWR

Caprock Canyons

May 20, 2012 Solar Eclipse

Ogre09
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Canyon is another of those posters I star before I read what they said. I rarely undo it.

Thanks for sharing!
ttha_aggie_09
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Good stuff!

For trophy photos, I always recommend putting the tongue back in the mouth and taking a bunch of pictures from multiple angles. As mentioned above, the more pictures the better.

AggieOO
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CanyonAg77 said:

And because I love to show off my photos, many of which are taken in direct contradiction of the advice above, here's a few links

Yellowstone

Panhandle Photos

Old Farm Equipment

Buffalo Lake NWR

Caprock Canyons

May 20, 2012 Solar Eclipse




None of your caprock photos had people in them...and the butterflies are out of focus.
CanyonAg77
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Hey I admitted my flaws
ThunderCougarFalconBird
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CanyonAg77 said:

Good advice on the candids. When I took photos of the kids sports teams, I hung around a lot during pregame and when they were doing non-sports activities.

They got used to me being around, and started ignoring me. That's when you get the good shots.
keep the tips coming for us, uh, "young" whippersnappers.
AggieOO
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I know, was just reinforcing
rootube
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I want to go back to a Europe trip I took in the 90's and listen to each one of these suggestions.
FancyKetchup14
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These are some of my favorite photos I've taken and help show what I'm into shooting (and some very unapologetic self-indulgence)












Blue Duck
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I love taking pictures and talking about taking pictures. A few things I've learned ....

1. Tough conditions make cooler pictures.
2. People's faces tell the story.
3. Lightroom is your friend.
4. Good light makes a photo.
5. This website has a ton of good photographers and good resources.
FancyKetchup14
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Blue Duck said:

I love taking pictures and talking about taking pictures. A few things I've learned ....

1. Tough conditions make cooler pictures.
2. People's faces tell the story.
3. Lightroom is your friend.
4. Good light makes a photo.

5. This website has a ton of good photographers and good resources.
I can't agree more, especially on the bolded. Share what you've taken!
CanyonAg77
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Yeah, people like 'guitarsoup' and others can wipe the floor with me, technically speaking. Would love to hear from them as well.

My main point, which it seems everyone is getting, is to think about the subject of your photo and the people who are going to view it in the future, especially your descendants.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
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Mini blindey (and little miss minnier blindier making a cameo):
HollywoodBQ
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CanyonAg77 said:

Good advice on the candids. When I took photos of the kids sports teams, I hung around a lot during pregame and when they were doing non-sports activities.

They got used to me being around, and started ignoring me. That's when you get the good shots.
By the way - amazingly awesome advice in your OP. I love seeing pictures of my father in West Germany during the Cold War, or in Alaska.

My mother always labeled every printed out photo and it's been great to go back and try to figure out who the randoms were in family pictures. In our case, usually aunts, uncles, cousins from the part of the family in Minnesota who I've never met. Also, putting peoples ages helps too because looking at pictures 20+ years later, it's hard to tell if that teenager was a Junior in High School or a Freshman at A&M.

As far as this post, my oldest daughter used to get furious with me when I would take pictures at her soccer games, etc. But... after a couple years, it did make me feel really good when she came and asked me if I had any pictures of her friends and she playing soccer. And, as it turns out, in spite of her complaints, yes I did and I was happy to share them with her.
HollywoodBQ
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Very nice pix. Personally, when traveling, I love taking pictures of crazy signs, or crazy scenes (plenty of those in India).
OaklandAg06
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Great tips! The one I would add is take take a moment to pause and be as still as possible when taking a picture. Nothing tarnishes a nice photo worse than a bit of motion blur IMO.
FancyKetchup14
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HollywoodBQ said:

Very nice pix. Personally, when traveling, I love taking pictures of crazy signs, or crazy scenes (plenty of those in India).
No kidding. India was one of my favorite countries to take photos in because of that.
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