I am going to finally get on the suppressor bandwagon. I am wanting to get 3 to 6, so that wife, son, and I all have one available on our rifles and maybe to leave on some AR's. Thinking of getting all .30 cal cans so that I can shoot them with 223 to 300 blk on the AR's and 22-250 to 300 WM on the bolt guns. My question is what would you get if price was not an option vs most bang for the buck so to speak. I am thinking of all cans being the same for the bolt guns (7"-9") and the same for the AR's (5"-7"). Also, direct thread or mount/attachment?? Kind of leaning towards TBAC but open to anything.

Rugged modular cans.

Radiant if you want lightweight, Surge/Micro30 if you want bulletproof

ETA: not that you'll manage to wear out the Radiant either. Unless you're doing full auto mag dumps out of a 7" 5.56. Then you might eventually run into issues.

What I really love about Rugged cans is as far as I know, they have no full auto restrictions, no minimum barrel length restrictions, etc. nice to have a can that can shoot anything you own.

BenderRodriguez said:

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Rugged modular cans.

Radiant if you want lightweight, Surge/Micro30 if you want bulletproof

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They're awesome! Highly recommend the Radiant.

I'm a fan of direct thread because I can move them to different hosts without having flash suppressor / adapters on each. That said, direct thread takes more care to make sure threads are clean when you attach it, make sure it threads straight, and make sure you check it every few rounds as they will loosen themselves due to pressure, heat, and harmonics.

A word of caution on 22-250. The incorrect wive's tale is "buy 30 cal and use it on anything smaller". That's mostly true but 22-250 is one of those rounds that sometimes makes that statement false. Some 30cal cans are not designed for the pressure generated by a 22-250. If you stick with magnum rated cans, you should be OK, especially in a bolt gun since you didnt say it was an SBR.

Speaking of SBR, shortening barrels results in larger muzzle flash, all other things being equal. That has to be taken into account when choosing a suppressor as some can handle more in their blast chamber than others.

Understand, none of this is likely to cause failure in a single round but will cause premature failure of the can.

I would talk with your dealer and let them know the specs on all the current hosts you wish to use it with so they can tell you what is and is not in spec.

Silencerco fan boy here.

For those requirements: chimera 300, omega 300 and hybrid

Throw in a .22 caliber can and the size can you want to use for a handgun and that should about cover it

Rugged Surge 100%!

highvelocity said:

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Silencerco fan boy here.

For those requirements: chimera 300, omega 300 and hybrid

Throw in a .22 caliber can and the size can you want to use for a handgun and that should about cover it

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I bought my Saker762 a few years ago now. Heavy sob. I'm not super thrilled w the accuracy either and that's on multiple rifles. Thinking about an upgrade. What are the advantages of those you recommended over the Saker? I have it on an ASR and put in on a .223, 300blk, and 6.8 spc. Was also planning on putting it on my SCAR heavy.

Too many options. If I were buying new 30 cal cans, it would probably be Q full nelsons.

https://www.liveqordie.com/collections/rifle-silencers/

heres a quick comparison for you and some real life feedback from me:

keep in mind for me, i dont care a whole lot about weight. i hunt from nested positions, from a tripod or from a high-rack off a bipod. my 300blk set up weighs like 6.5 pounds for when i start pig hunting under NODs.

i have 2 omegas that i keep them on my bolt guns and on my 300blk SBR. i have had 0 issues with accuracy on any platform i've used them on. All applications and calibers are hearing safe and work well for me. i have an ASR muzzle brake or device on every AR and bolyt gun thats threaded that i own. when i pig hunted with my Scar-H, the omega was my can of choice and it worked well.

chimera - does not have any barrel restrictions (this was the main innovation with the release of this model) it stays on whatever rig i'm using to hunt pigs. no particular reason, thats just how it happened.

hybrid - can be used as a rifle suppressor or a pistol suppressor and works with an ASR mount or you can buy pistons for whichever caliber pistol you want to use. rated for 338. it is currently being used on my 45-70 that also has an ASR QD mount because i'll eventually have some sort of long range bolt gun i'll switch it back and forth on.

Saker 762
Weight: 20.7 oz
Decibel: ~123-137 from 300blk and 300WM OSHA defined hearing safe is 140DBs.

Chimera 300
weight: 20.1 oz
Decibel: ~125-136DBs

Omega 300
weight: 14 oz (big improvement)
decibel: 119-134DBs

I run silencerco and dead air cans. I also have the saker 762 and the poi shifts when ever you take it off and put it on another gun. I just got the chimera (7.62) and it has the asr mount which is a big improvement over the trifecta mount. I run a silencerco sparrow for 22. The others are are still processing. Now that I know what I do, I would look harder at the other brands. The saker and chimera are bullet proof but heavy. No complaints other than that. I'd diversify a little if I were you. Get a large can suppressor for things like 45/70 338 etc, a 300 caliber (one bullet proof and one light and compact, id skip a 556 can and just use your 300 cabs for it, and two 22 suppressors. One just for 22lr that can be broken down and one for the high pressure stuff like 17 hmr. Wouldn't hurt to get a 45 can too. Hey it's only money

Surefire here.

SOCOM 7.62 mini is what you want. Minimal poi shift if any.

Fits all surefire socom mounts.

cant die with it

After trying Gemtech, Silencerco, and Deadair, I have found the Deadair to be my choice on the next ones. Their QD is much more friendly and the build seems solid. I do prefer the Gemtech for hunting due to its added weight and length being minimal but don't like it's shot amount limitation.

CS78 said:

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Too many options. If I were buying new 30 cal cans, it would probably be Q full nelsons.

https://www.liveqordie.com/collections/rifle-silencers/

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Have one in prison right now (Trash Panda). Really liked what I saw in these, can't wait to get it. Have a Dead Air Sandman S right now, it's light, but it's also louder than most other suppressors I have been around. Get comments on it all the time when hunting with others.

highvelocity said:

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cant die with it

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Kind of leaning towards TBAC

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Keep leaning that way. You wont be disappointed. I have an Ultra 7 6.5 and a 22 takedown. Currently a 30 cal in jail. All TOMB style with their break that makes a rock solid mounting system. No QD breaks are worth the hassle, IMO.

Get you three Ultra 7 30 cals. Put those on any rifles. They are light, rugged, and your accuracy will not be affected.

Grab two Ultra 7 223 to dedicated to your ARs

Add 22 takedown for rimfire.

You'll be super happy, and the TBAC guys are phenomenal.

IMO, I won't buy any Q products. The business owner is sketchy, at best. I give my monies to good products made by good folks. TBAC is the answer.

You get what you pay for in the suppressor game. Don't skimp. Its too long and expensive of a process to try and go cheaper.

PFG said:

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Kind of leaning towards TBAC

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Grab two Ultra 7 223 to dedicated to your ARs

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Problem is my AR's are in 223, 6.8, 300 blk so I will have to get 30 cal cans.

Lots of good points. Also, lots of suggestions to get a 22 can. If I do that whats the real world difference in a can that is only 22 lr rated and one that will also work with 17 hmr and 22 wmr?

Gotcha.

Can def swap cans between AR and bolt action. The TBAC 30 cal cans are fantastic.

Might grab one in direct thread so you have it, but their compact breaks with the conical shoulder locks up tight and right every time.

I was having so much trouble with my Saker that I already swapped out the trifecta it came with to ASR QD. So I've already got those on my ARs.

Sounds like the omega 300 is the way to go. Much lighter and a little better suppression than the Saker. Will go right on my ASRs and I can run it on all my rifles. Thanks for your advice!

Yessir! Only consideration for the omega is it does have barrel restrictions. I'm running one on my sig rattler SBR with no issues and it's stupid quiet

Direct thread is the only way to go for obvious reasons

If buying multiple, don't think you can go wrong with the YHM Resonator 2. I'm very happy with my Resonator, and the newly released version is even better. Will probably be my next suppressor purchase.

https://yhm.net/yhm-2130.html

CactusThomas said:

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Direct thread is the only way to go for obvious reasons

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Mind explaining why?

Direct thread is no doubt the easiest solution - nothing else to buy, no need to put breaks on all your guns, etc. But there are a lot of pitfalls to direct thread. Enough that I'm not willing to go direct on my most of my guns.

AnScAggie said:

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most bang for the buck so to speak.

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I'd think you'd be looking for the least bang for your buck in this case

Can someone give me a ballpark cost to add adapters and threading the barrel on the following:
AR with stock flash suppressor?
Bolt gun with threaded barrel?
Bolt gun without threaded barrel?
Bolt gun with bull barrel?
Does stainless affect cost of threading?

dr_boogs said:

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I was having so much trouble with my Saker that I already swapped out the trifecta it came with to ASR QD. So I've already got those on my ARs.

Sounds like the omega 300 is the way to go. Much lighter and a little better suppression than the Saker. Will go right on my ASRs and I can run it on all my rifles. Thanks for your advice!

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I hear you. Poi shift for sure. But the damn thing locks up all the damn time and I have to hit it with a mallet and then use a vice to get it to release. Im about to switch all of mine over too.

ASR mounts are I think $115. You can find ASR devices and brakes for 60-70$

I have a AAC 7.62 SDN 6 and have been happy with it. I put the adapters on all of my AR's because I didn't want to have to swap it from one gun to another.

My personal reason for not wanting a direct thread one you have to put something on the barrel when you take your can off (or risk screwing up the threads) and I'm used to having a brake on them. So I'd have to take the regular brakes off each time I wanted to shoot one with a can.

The .22 can that is in jail right now is a direct thread but that's a different story than an AR is.

CS78 said:

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Too many options. If I were buying new 30 cal cans, it would probably be Q full nelsons.

https://www.liveqordie.com/collections/rifle-silencers/

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I have the thunder chicken and freakin love it. 300 blk subs are stupid quiet.

PFG said:

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Keep leaning that way. You wont be disappointed. I have an Ultra 7 6.5 and a 22 takedown. Currently a 30 cal in jail. All TOMB style with their break that makes a rock solid mounting system. No QD breaks are worth the hassle, IMO.

Get you three Ultra 7 30 cals. Put those on any rifles. They are light, rugged, and your accuracy will not be affected.

Grab two Ultra 7 223 to dedicated to your ARs

Add 22 takedown for rimfire.

You'll be super happy, and the TBAC guys are phenomenal.

IMO, I won't buy any Q products. The business owner is sketchy, at best. I give my monies to good products made by good folks. TBAC is the answer.

You get what you pay for in the suppressor game. Don't skimp. Its too long and expensive of a process to try and go cheaper.

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How is the Q business owner sketchy?

+1 for the AAC 7.62 SDN 6
I originally got it because it had a good quick detach system and it was easy to move it between my AR15 (223), AR 300BLK and LR308. I recently started running it on my bold 6.5 Creedmoor and am very happy with its performance.

However I got to the point were if 2 of us were hunting it was silly for 1 to have a suppressor and the other not so I ended up getting a dedicated 223/5.56 can. I got the AAC M4-2000 because it uses the same QD (51T Rachet) system as the 7.62 SDN 6

I also have a Huntertown Arms 22 can specifically for my Ruger 10/22. Its not a QD system so its a bit of a pain to take on and off but it works like a charm and I can blow away squirrels off the deer feeder all day long with it.

Throwing in support for the Rugged Surge... their QD mount works really well and the can is very, very quiet. But it's heavy though... so expect some POI shift. To me, it was no big deal to add the Rugged muzzle devices to my host firearms. From what I hear, Patriot Valley Arms makes a brake that is meant to host the Rugged Surge and the design supposedly does a better job at recoil mitigation. I don't know firsthand... my Rugged brakes do quite well so I've never tried anything else.

The biggest recommendation I can echo though is to get a 22lr can! I have a Dead Air Mask and it is a hoot to shoot. I run it on a pistol mostly.

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How is the Q business owner sketchy?

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Have you googled Kevin Brittingham at all on the internet?

Might be worth some reading.

He's got a little history... financial shenanigans, job firing, wife stalking, forum harassment, etc.

Q could be the only company making suppressors and they wouldn't get my money. But hey - he gives products cool names, tosses unsubstantiated decibel numbers on them, and probably sells a good many.