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"she climbed Everest, and died the same day"?

Nobody is going to climb as high as she made it in one day. She was likely on Everest for at least two or three weeks, maybe more than a month before she died.

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They should etch that on her tombstone.

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She was probably a lot healthier and in better shape than 90% of the people on this board.

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I'd say 100% of the people on this board are healthier and in better shape than she is.

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LOL

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I am climbing both peaks of Kilimanjaro next year. Our expedition is setting out to look for signs of last year's expedition. They were going to build a bridge between the two peaks.

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Is this a reference to something?

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She was probably a lot healthier and in better shape than 90% of the people on this board.

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I'd say 100% of the people on this board are healthier and in better shape than she is.

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Regarding the "she didn't die because she was vegan". I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on the Internet. But don't you get iron and protein from meat, both of which are kind of important for your blood, and thus for oxygen carrying?

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Regarding the "she didn't die because she was vegan". I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on the Internet. But don't you get iron and protein from meat, both of which are kind of important for your blood, and thus for oxygen carrying?

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Vegans / vegetarians can easily get sufficient protein from the diet. Iron shouldn't be a problem if not menstruating.

Remember that anemia is not at all uncommon among menstruating women whether or not they eat meat.

Reminds me of this news skit from George Carlin lol

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She was probably a lot healthier and in better shape than 90% of the people on this board.

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I'd say 100% of the people on this board are healthier and in better shape than she is.

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Almost worth paying for the laugh/cry icon.

1. If she was a meat eater, she'd be alive. Not because it would have saved her at the top of the world, but because she wouldn't have set out on a dangerous expedition simply to prove to the world she was capable based on the foods she eats. No meat eater will ever summit Everest simply to prove their diet 'works'.

2. No one hates vegans. Just the vegans that carry on about their silly diet and look down on evil meat eaters. It's not my fault they all seem to act that way.

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Regarding the "she didn't die because she was vegan". I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on the Internet. But don't you get iron and protein from meat, both of which are kind of important for your blood, and thus for oxygen carrying?

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I'm not a doctor or play one on the Internet either (though the count is under 365 days, but who's counting), however the issue with vegans is b12. Beans and green leafy vegetables provide protein and iron. B12 deficiency can definitely lead to anemia which would be a huge issue at that altitude, however I would assume she had a fairly thorough medical work up before attempting the climb.

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Regarding the "she didn't die because she was vegan". I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on the Internet. But don't you get iron and protein from meat, both of which are kind of important for your blood, and thus for oxygen carrying?

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Vegans / vegetarians can easily get sufficient protein from the diet. Iron shouldn't be a problem if not menstruating.

Remember that anemia is not at all uncommon among menstruating women whether or not they eat meat.

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It appears Eric has solved the mystery, she died because period.

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I am climbing both peaks of Kilimanjaro next year. Our expedition is setting out to look for signs of last year's expedition. They were going to build a bridge between the two peaks.

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Is this a reference to something?

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Yes.

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Regarding the "she didn't die because she was vegan". I'm not a doctor, I don't even play one on the Internet. But don't you get iron and protein from meat, both of which are kind of important for your blood, and thus for oxygen carrying?

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I'm not a doctor or play one on the Internet either (though the count is under 365 days, but who's counting), however the issue with vegans is b12. Beans and green leafy vegetables provide protein and iron. B12 deficiency can definitely lead to anemia which would be a huge issue at that altitude, however I would assume she had a fairly thorough medical work up before attempting the climb.

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That was my thought as well. No doubt she probably checked out fine before the trip, but after spending weeks at base camp and then making the final ascent, who knows where her levels would be. Someone with a normal diet would be getting B12 replenishment at every meal. If you're relying on a daily or weekly supplement, then that could be a concern.

It's just that the vegan I knew made it a point to let everyone around her know she was a vegan.
It was a nice wedding reception with a sit down meal that included lamb chops. She insisted that the caterer serve her a vegan meal so they specially prepared one for her which is fine but the gal was pushing 270 lbs...

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The idea of climbing everest is something that interests me but the mountain just seems to be so crowded that it is a death trap. It seems deaths usually occur because of people getting trapped at a bottleneck or something similar. It is hard to say for certain but it seems like most deaths would have been avoidable based on skill level because the climbers would have been able to seek shelter.

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There is no shelter in the death zone. You have to get up and get down.

I'm not an expert in high altitude physiology, but assuming she was good at the start, it would take 3 months of low b12 to become an issue as it wouldn't effect the existing red blood cells

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It is hard to say for certain but it seems like most deaths would have been avoidable based on skill level because the climbers would have been able to seek shelter.

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As I said earlier, read K2, Triumph and Tragedy by Jim Curran. It documents the 86' season on K2 and provides great insight into what remaining in the death zone, even with shelter, will do to the best climbers in the world. People who had summited Everest and other 8k meter peaks many times and were great high altitude climbers.

I have no interest in climbing Everest simply because I know it would be full of other people like me.

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I'm not an expert in high altitude physiology, but assuming she was good at the start, it would take 3 months of low b12 to become an issue as it wouldn't effect the existing red blood cells

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That's interesting, good info!

The influx of new posters on this board is not a good trend ...

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She was probably a lot healthier and in better shape than 90% of the people on this board.

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I'd say 100% of the people on this board are healthier and in better shape than she is.

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Ha! Well, now.

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The idea of climbing everest is something that interests me but the mountain just seems to be so crowded that it is a death trap. It seems deaths usually occur because of people getting trapped at a bottleneck or something similar. It is hard to say for certain but it seems like most deaths would have been avoidable based on skill level because the climbers would have been able to seek shelter.

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The traffic jams on summit push days are a huge problem...with such a limited summit season each year it's usually very crowded going from Camp 4 to the Summit which of course is a huge problem when you need to be up and back down to Camp 4 before dark. I find the books/stories about Everest fascinating, but I'll be damned if I would ever want to try it myself. If you are a snapchatter, up until yesterday you could follow EverestNoFilter as 2 guides were making a summit bid w/ no supplemental oxygen. Unfortunately they weren't able to summit, but it was pretty cool seeing the views from their camps and listening to them discuss the challenges they were facing.

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I'm not an expert in high altitude physiology, but assuming she was good at the start, it would take 3 months of low b12 to become an issue as it wouldn't effect the existing red blood cells

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Do you even period bro?

Frankly, with the fascination with pristine nature, I'm surprised that summiting Everest is still allowed. Isn't it turning into a trash/human waste/human corpse dump?

I'm guessing it's such a huge money maker for Nepal that they'll keep milking it.

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She was probably a lot healthier and in better shape than 90% of the people on this board.

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I'd say 100% of the people on this board are healthier and in better shape than she is.

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ok, that's funny.

So if you develop a problem at that altitude the answer is to get down fast. Are you on your own? You will rely on your most capable Sherpa but if you need more advanced evacuation how is this handled?

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So if you develop a problem at that altitude the answer is to get down fast. Are you on your own? You will rely on your most capable Sherpa but if you need more advanced evacuation how is this handled?

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are you talking about in the death zone? if someone is around to give you assistance they might if they are able, otherwise you die. that's pretty much it. I think the highest helicopter rescue was between camp 2 and 3 or something like that

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So if you develop a problem at that altitude the answer is to get down fast. Are you on your own? You will rely on your most capable Sherpa but if you need more advanced evacuation how is this handled?

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If they can get down to base camp in time, there is the possibility of a helicopter evacuation.

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Frankly, with the fascination with pristine nature, I'm surprised that summiting Everest is still allowed. Isn't it turning into a trash/human waste/human corpse dump?

I'm guessing it's such a huge money maker for Nepal that they'll keep milking it.

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Trash is much better than in the 70's and 80's, supposedly. Lots of people are interested in keeping the mountain pristine.

I wouldn't say Nepal is milking it. They continue to raise the fee in hopes of discouraging the large crowds. It will be a sad day if access to the mountain is prevented.

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So if you develop a problem at that altitude the answer is to get down fast. Are you on your own? You will rely on your most capable Sherpa but if you need more advanced evacuation how is this handled?

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If you collapse high on the mountain you can't be rescued. Case in point the 96' Everest season. Rob Hall, an outstanding guide who had summited Everest 5 times, had a client collapse just below the summit. Even with another guide present, Andy Harris, they couldn't do anything for the guy. Too dangerous and likely futile. Rob refused to leave the client and died himself.

Another great book is K2 The Savage Mountain by Charles Houston. Documents the 1953 K2 expedition where the whole team attempted to bring down one collapsed comrade. It's a great read.

So this story isn't funny at all, but my neighbor who is vegan, has a shirt that says:

VEGAN - Cave man for "can't hunt"

And that's funny I don't care who you are.