From TexAgs Sponsors, River Valley Real Estate:

72 acre waterfront compound with over 10,000 feet of water frontage

• 3bed/3bath Main house with commercial grade kitchen, and hardwoods throughout
• Two 4bed/4bath guest cottages
• Pool with surrounding deck
• Covered patio perfect for family shrimp boils
• Stadium lighting for at night beach illumination

Live the life of leisure on this truly once in a lifetime property!
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19202 Huebner Road Suite 100
San Antonio, Texas 78258
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"TexAgs OB Retreat" Make it happen.

I wonder what the P&L is on that place?

A link would make it easier to pass on the listing

Would love to live there. But a well placed hurricane would clean those houses right off the ground.

Nearly as nice as my place down there. /mfbarnes

Wonder what all land is included? Rattlesnake Island is only about 15 acres or so.

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The acreage includes private marsh land as seen in the top left hand corner of the third picture in the original post.

I have personally had some excellent duck hunts in that marsh. The most sought out trophy was always the canallard also know as a fruit loop mallard. This rare species occasionally migrates south from Copano Cove, and has been know to outweigh its natural cousin the mallard by up to 5 pounds.

While the marsh is very boggy and soft, at times it offers good redfishing on the fly as well.

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Would love to live there. But a well placed hurricane would clean those houses right off the ground.

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You are protected by a large barrier island so you'd only have waves generated in the bay to contend with.

Still though I'm guessing if you can afford it, you can rebuild it.

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The acreage includes private marsh land as seen in the top left hand corner of the third picture in the original post.

I have personally had some excellent duck hunts in that marsh. The most sought out trophy was always the canallard also know as a fruit loop mallard. This rare species occasionally migrates south from Copano Cove, and has been know to outweigh its natural cousin the mallard by up to 5 pounds.

While the marsh is very boggy and soft, at times it offers good redfishing on the fly as well.

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Interesting. I didn't know that publicly accessible marsh land could be privately owned. I assume you just have to live with the fact that wade fishing, etc. is going to happen because you have pretty much no way to keep access restricted.

Having lived directly across from the lodge and hunted the area, my understanding after speaking with numerous game wardens about the subject of the local marshes and privately owned property is - Private marsh is only accessible and open to the public if accessible by boat including a kayak, canoe or such if the boat is able to float without touching the bottom. Once you or your craft touches the bottom on privately owned property you are tresspassing. So wadefishing is not allowed. The public can enter the marsh owned by the lodge with small watercraft. However, in this case there is a fence line to cross, and I don't know how that would be navigated without getting out of the boat.

This information I obtained pertains only to salt water marsh areas not rivers, creeks or public lakes.

simply awesome property

would love to have

That is correct

What is a kayake?

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I was thinking the exact same thing. That's a temporary property.

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Having lived directly across from the lodge and hunted the area, my understanding after speaking with numerous game wardens about the subject of the local marshes and privately owned property is - Private marsh is only accessible and open to the public if accessible by boat including a kayak, canoe or such if the boat is able to float without touching the bottom. Once you or your craft touches the bottom on privately owned property you are tresspassing. So wadefishing is not allowed. The public can enter the marsh owned by the lodge with small watercraft. However, in this case there is a fence line to cross, and I don't know how that would be navigated without getting out of the boat.

This information I obtained pertains only to salt water marsh areas not rivers, creeks or public lakes.

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Yeah, you might want to get an official legal position on that because I'm 100% certain that's factually incorrect.
In Texas, there is no such thing as a private marsh on the bays. Everything below the mean high-tide line is public so you can get out to wade. But the bottom in that marsh is very, very muddy so it's a cast-iron beotch to wade. Even if the bottom is periodically "dry" on low tides it's still public. I've fished & duck hunted that area around Port Bay for years out of a family place on the other side of the Copano Bridge in Holiday Beach. I'll allow that the guides, especially the duck hunting guides, get territorial because they put a lot of work into their blinds on public water. But be courteous and stay out of a blind you didn't build and you'll be A-OK.
The caveat to this is that an exceptionally high tide does not make marsh above the mean high-tide line public.
I'm trying to find the legal decision on this but IIRC, it had to do with the Welder Flats WMA before it became a public WMA. The dry land surrounding Welder is still private but you can access the flats via boat- the kicker is you've got to have a boat capable of doing so.

When the time comes another title search will be done, and due to the price and the sophistication of the buyer and seller, I'm certain lawyers will be involved. As it stands currently, the marsh area was surveyed and deeded to the current owner, and it was/is recorded and taxed annually by Aransas County. Which would seem very strange for real estate taxes to be levied to an individual on a public land. The water is definitely public, but as I mentioned access is limited by certain regulations.

The information I passed along was obtained and confirmed from Game Wardens (the legal authority if you do not want a trespassing ticket) not real estate attorneys, so please understand that I a not making a legal comment or opinion.

With regard to your other comments, it was my understanding that The Port Bay Hunt Club lost access to many of the duck blinds they had historically used due to the fact they were located on private property.

I don't remember if it specifically discussed salt water marsh, but the July 2014 Tierra Grande journal has a an excellent article about Texas water rights and ownership. I would be more than happy to scan the article if anyone is interested, just send me an e-mail request.

For what it's worth, I lived in Key Allegro and then Cape Velero, developed the 24 acre Pelican Point tract into residential lots, I sold the +1000 acre Stellman Ranch just south of Port Bay Hunt Club as well as a few 100 acres at the southern most part of Port Bay which was predominately salt water marsh. I would not claim to be an expert, but I do have a little experience with the area. One of my first clients was a man named E. H. Baumgart, and I listed over 50 lots he owned in Holiday Beach. Once we hunted the marsh bay just east of Holiday Beach, and on the boat ride over in the morning darkness, we heard a loud thump, crash and felt something go between our heads. When we stopped we found two dead redheads in the boat.

Is this is one of the 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' kind of ads?

I can't afford it, but human curiosity is making me ask how much? At least I will know how many of my kidneys and future children I will have to sell to make a down payment.

$4 million - haven't ever put a kidney in a deal, but hell, I'll write the offer the buyer instructs. I'm not sure if kids make the deal better or worse, my client has already raised his own.

$4 million for a property the next hurricane's going to relocate? But I know some nutjob will buy it.

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$4 million for a property the next hurricane's going to relocate? But I know some nutjob will buy it.

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have you looked at a map? How long to you think this property has been there?

I remember that Tierra Grande article. I've been in the commercial brokerage/development business for a while and that TG article is what I was basing some of my points on. But there was a deal re: Welder Flats where anything below the mean high-tide line was public even if it was within a surveyed boundary. It was a court case that I can't put my hands on at the moment.

They discussed how flooding of rivers doesn't give rights of trespass over normally dry land but it's different for salt marshes and areas subject to tidal influence.

Port Bay Hunt Club sold off a lot of acreage a while back is what I was told. The sticking point on accessing places is whether or not you've got to cross private property to do it. You could privately own marsh/wetlands that abuts the bay and doesn't have any drains or bayous to access it from public property.

That's part of the reason why there's the dispute over that treasure hunter in Mission Bay and I believe the Fennessy Ranch. Dude had to cross private property to access an old oxbow off the Mission River, which as I understand it is above the mean high-tide line.

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$4 million for a property the next hurricane's going to relocate? But I know some nutjob will buy it.

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have you looked at a map? How long to you think this property has been there?

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Yeah, that lodge has been there for at least the 20 years I've been going down there.

That's quality information you are sharing Finn, and I appreciate it.

How long had all of the houses on Crystal Beach been there before being washed away?

wombat - I understand your point of view, and the coast is just not for everybody. I will leave you this article for consideration.
http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/population.html

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How long had all of the houses on Crystal Beach been there before being washed away?

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once again - look at a map. Crystal Beach was on the gulf, this is on that bay with a barrier island and the entire city of Rockport land mass between it and the gulf. Yes it would flood in a hurricane (that's why the houses are built on stilts), but most probably the storm surge would be knocked down somewhat by all the land it had to cross to get there.

Ah, I hadn't realized that about the location. Probably still not a property for me... not that I have $4 million lying around.

You get insurance!

So you have a bad day every twenty years or so. You rebuild and start another run. It's about thirteen or so miles from the gulf. That's a lot of area to dissipate tidal waters.

The current Tarpon Inn in Port Aransas has been there since 1925.

I can only speak to some the issues raised here.

Port bay has not sold any property recently, transferred to another entity, yes. But the club still has access to it all.

The other issue of owning marsh, you can own private marsh but you better make damn sure the GLO agrees with you, as they are the ultimate authority on those kinds of submerged lands. The biggest feather in your cap would be if you've been paying taxes for X number of years of marsh land that is submerged then you have a better argument for ownership.