https://www.texastribune.org/2015/05/19/campus-carry-faces-last-hurdle-in-texaslegislature/

Not calendared in the House, with 2 weeks to go.

How bout open carry?

Strauss is buddy buddy with the sip chancellors.

The horns administration and student body are very anti gun and anti campus carry.

open carry passed out of the senate committe and will be voted on this week more than likely once that happens abbott just has to sign it!

It went to House Calendars Committee late yesterday (4pm). Minutes from that meeting are not yet available.

IMO this is much more important than open carry. I hope it passes.

House Calendars met on Monday. Minutes are now posted. SB 11 (campus carry) was not considered. They met again yesterday afternoon. Minutes from that meeting will likely be posted late today or tomorrow.

Hope this doesn't die as they wait to see if someone amends HB 910 (open carry) in the Senate with campus carry, as some have suggested they do.

This could turn into a "you go first", "no, you go first", "no, you go first", kind of deal. The clock could run out on both of them. They could also get cute and have this thing passed so convoluted that it has to go back to committee to be reconciled. That would suck. I don't trust many folks up there to not screw this up.

For the love of God I hope we don't become an open carry state

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For the love of God I hope we don't become an open carry state

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I'd rather have campus carry than open carry hands down. Hundreds of buildings being "gun free" is no bueno.

Let's have both! Liberty for everyone!

I agree with you 100%

I'm pretty indifferent on campus carry. Wouldn't bother me if it was passed at all.

Open carry is a different story.

Tell us why Moses

I checked the minutes. SB 11 wasn't considered during yesterday's Calendars Committee. Maybe today...they met late this afternoon.

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Tell us why Moses

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First off, Moses was my father.

Well as a current student, campus carry doesn't matter. I understand arguments from both sides and respect them. I guess I would feel a little more safe, but I think the majority of the student body would be put on a little more of an edge knowing some of their classmates are carrying. (I'm speaking of the types that aren't comfortable around guns, which is a lot)

For open carry its not an issue of 2nd amendment rights, or feeling safe, but the types of people who are going to be using open carry in our state. I just dont want to see a bunch of mouthbreathers roaming the streets with AKs on their back compensating for their tiny peckers. It will rub those who are on the fence about guns the wrong way. Now Im just speculating, and I know for the most part, those who choose to open carry will do so with a handgun, but still. I think for 2nd amendment practicing gun owners, it will do more harm than good.

I think concealed Carry does the job

Just my 2 cents.

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First off, Moses was my father.

Well as a current student, campus carry doesn't matter. I understand arguments from both sides and respect them. I guess I would feel a little more safe, but I think the majority of the student body would be put on a little more of an edge knowing some of their classmates are carrying. (I'm speaking of the types that aren't comfortable around guns, which is a lot)

For open carry its not an issue of 2nd amendment rights, or feeling safe, but the types of people who are going to be using open carry in our state. I just dont want to see a bunch of mouthbreathers roaming the streets with AKs on their back compensating for their tiny peckers. It will rub those who are on the fence about guns the wrong way. Now Im just speculating, and I know for the most part, those who choose to open carry will do so with a handgun, but still. I think for 2nd amendment practicing gun owners, it will do more harm than good.

I think concealed Carry does the job

Just my 2 cents.

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Umm... You do realize that the open carrying of long guns is already legal in Texas right? I mean, that pretty much defeats your entire argument. The day after open carry passes the only thing that will change is... maybe I won't sweat my balls off while carrying my glock in the summer.

Nope... Did not know that.

Well cool then, enjoy your comfort

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Current student here as well. Have never heard anyone say they are scared of guns but that may be due to my friend/social groups. Also don't think the average student is up on where is/isn't legal to carry and would quickly forget after the initial coverage is on campus carry is made legal.

Never heard it from my friends/ social group either. Pretty pro guns. But I am aware that there is a decent pop. of people who would not be in favor of this.

If it gets passed it comes down to whether or not those who care about it passing, finding out and raising hell. Hopefully they don't.

I 100% support campus carry. Not open carry. Of the 10 or so guys that I have been around in Colorado that open carry, every one suffered badly from little man syndrome or were tin-foil types that are anti-everything. I have a hard time giving those types an outlet. I won't spend money or time to try to block it but it won't get my support, either.

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Nope... Did not know that.

Well cool then, enjoy your comfort

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Are students really naive enough to think that there are no firearms on campus already? Some students carry concealed already. I guess they figure if there is ever a reason to use a firearm in a school then the consequences are worth it.

The laws are just dumb to me. You can already carry on campus grounds. It's when you cross a threshold that it becomes a no no. So what is the change of that responsible gun carrier from the instant they are outside to the instant they go through a door. It makes no sense to me.

And everyone freaks out over students murdering teachers in fits of rage. I highly doubt that would happen. Pretty much every doom and gloom story I have heard about carrying a weapon has turned out to be false. I was in AZ when CC was allowed for bars. A lot of people were screaming that it would be the Wild West all over again. It passed.....crickets.

I actually recently had to write a position on this very topic and review other submissions. 9 out of 10 anti CC on campus stated they did not believe a student was mature enough to carry one in class. I think they are all worried about the 18 yr old fresh away from mommy and daddy. I think they failed to realize that is would concealed carry permit holders only. It's not a carte blanche for every kid out there. You still have to pass the reqs for owning a CC permit. I.E. be 21, pass a written and practical application test and learn and be able to regurgitate the law regarding CC. and not be a felon or a known basketcase. If you don't think that a CC permit holder can carry in a classroom then you must not think they can carry anywhere. I just don't see a differentiation between class and say work. Or the store. I know that if I were to flip out and go on a crazed shooting spree it would be in a place more along the lines of Walmart than a classroom. Walmarts stress me out FAR more. (Disclaimer: I will not go on a shooting spree, just trying to point out that classrooms are no more stressful and may be in fact less stressful than other places that allow CC.)

Oh and second that thought that CC on campus is more important than open carry.

I also don't think that many if any students carry now on a regular basis.

I carry when I go to campus for class, but I leave it in the vehicle. It kind of sucks knowing that if something went down I have it in my car instead of on me but ehh it is what it is.

Everyone I know with a CHL does this.

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I also don't think that many if any students carry now on a regular basis.

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I can guarantee you there are more guns on campus than you think, and it's not just students carrying. I know of faculty and staff who also regularly carry.

Eh. Though I have no numbers to back it up I think it depends on the school. TAMU for instance I believe has a slightly higher age demographic with it's Masters programs that some other school don't have and the large number of veterans that attend. I have attended schools in three different states(and partied at three more). The demographics here I think are, from my personal experiences to date, a little older and more mature in life.I would believe that some schools here in Texas have students that carry on a normal basis. Especially when you factor out those students who can't legally carry for whatever reason, mainly age I imagine. When you cut the numbers to those who CAN obtain a CC permit than I think the numbers and graphs change somewhat.

I carried every day when I went to class and during class I kept my pistol in my back pack the pistol was always with in reach for me incase of a threat

To each their own. I turn 21 this fall, will get my CHL but won't have a gun in BCS (Corps Dorms). Even if I was off campus I personally wouldn't carry on campus, if I did though I definitely wouldn't make it known to anymore unlike some associates of posters on this thread have apparently.

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For open carry its not an issue of 2nd amendment rights, or feeling safe, but the types of people who are going to be using open carry in
our state. I just dont want to see a bunch of mouthbreathers roaming the
streets with AKs on their back compensating for their tiny peckers. It
will rub those who are on the fence about guns the wrong way. Now Im
just speculating, and I know for the most part, those who choose to open
carry will do so with a handgun, but still. I think for 2nd amendment
practicing gun owners, it will do more harm than good.

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So....you are worried you'll see somebody that you simply don't think should be carrying a gun with one on their hip, and that's the basis of deciding that nobody should?

Why do people spend so much time fretting over the "on the fence" crowd? Do you really think that they are suddenly going to be off the fence? Just how big of a crowd is this "on the fence" crowd? Are 100% of them going to be off the fence on the anti gun side suddenly?

I really don't understand this mentality.

You can already open carry legally in Texas... Become a peace officer.

For me, I will continue to keep my weapon concealed. Why would I want to become the first target if something were to go down? Better for the bad guys not to know who is armed than to advertise myself as the initial threat.

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You can already open carry legally in Texas... Become a peace officer.

For me, I will continue to keep my weapon concealed. Why would I want to become the first target if something were to go down? Better for the bad guys not to know who is armed than to advertise myself as the initial threat.

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I wish this mentality would die a quick and un-heroic death.

If it were the case, we'd have a plethora of stories readily available from the 44 states that have OC, wouldn't we?

And while there are advantages of CCW - one of them being that the bad guy doesn't know if you are armed or not, it's also a disadvantage because there is a 50/50 chance. A very strong argument could be made that open carrying is more advantageous because there is zero doubt as to whether or not you are carrying, and why pick a fight with a guy carrying a pistol on his hip when there are unarmed targets that provide a greater chance of zero resistance?

HB 910 - Open Carry is on the agenda for consideration by the Senate today.

We will see what happens.

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For me, I will continue to keep my weapon concealed. Why would I want to become the first target if something were to go down? Better for the bad guys not to know who is armed than to advertise myself as the initial threat.

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Then keep it concealed. Just because YOU prefer concealed doesn't give you the right to tell others how they should carry. Pretty simple, really.

I for one am not a fan of open carry because CC is "out of sight out of mind". How many more businesses are going to educate themselves on gun signage if private citizens can OC? I can easily see OC hurting carryable places for CC.

Most are sheep and are gleefully ignorant of CC, OC changes that.