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Dam at Midlothian is expected to fail.

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Is it bad that I want a news crew there if it does?

Midlothian on the trinity or brazos?

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Did someone say the Brazos was running at 100,000cfs? Holy hell!

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Prediction of around 75k at the 1462 gauge. 75k is a monster flow for the Brazos, 100k would be on the very destructive side.

Not a large lake but looks like there are subdivisions just downstream.

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Supposed to be flying to houston hobby for work Thursday morning and will then be headed to sugar land. Do I need to cancel the trip?

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My office is right across the street from Hobby - no flooding in this area at all. Can't speak for SL, it got hit pretty hard, but odds are you'll drive right in like nothing happened.

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Supposed to be flying to houston hobby for work Thursday morning and will then be headed to sugar land. Do I need to cancel the trip?

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Lol no

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I think it's a legitimate question when images like this are what's shown on the news ...

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Thank you. I also heard Sugarland (i'll be near beltway and *59) is basically one giant river right now. Isn't Houston getting pounded AGAIN today?

thanks.

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Dam at Midlothian is expected to fail.

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Is it bad that I want a news crew there if it does?

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there is a chopper taking live footage, i doubt they will miss the dam break if/when it happens
http://www.fox4news.com/story/29165636/midlothians-padera-lake-dam-failure-imminent

Sugar Land is fine.

The dam in Midlothian is a Soil Conservation Services "lake" #10 to the NW of Midlothian it is about 100 acres of water though...

Penra Lake or Panera Lake I think it another name it's known by.

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USDA talking about a dam failing in Midlothian......uh oh....that may be one of our flood control structures....

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The only dam I can find in Midlothian is the Crossroads Lake Dam, and it's a little bitty lake.

There are a number of Soil Conservation Service reservoirs around there though, and if some of those were to fail, there would be several homes that likely would be wiped out. None of them are huge containment structures, but they look big enough.

That link isn't live.

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Not a large lake but looks like there are subdivisions just downstream.

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Actually its not the big one at all. There a re a couple of businesses and a couple of houses. At least from the google maps I wouldn't say a subdivision. That's on the higher side of the lake. The lake looks brand new as well. It doesn't have any water in it from the newest sat photos on google.

Edit: Wow I stand corrected if the dam is up to full height that is a big lake. Hopefully nothing has be built down stream recently as well that isn't shown on the sat photos as well. If the top of the dam is at final height that is a 350acre lake. That might do damage around the next lake up the chain as well.

Wow. In a few weeks there will be a stream of flood "repaired" cars headed in tow to Mexico.

Not sure where they think it'll go but the topo lines show that it should flow back to the north/northwest.

Padera lake is what NWS posted this morning. Apparently they had it completely drained recently and doing repairs on the dam. Looks like they got caught and it is now full and running over the top of the earthen dam slowly eating it away. Said it will affect mostly farmland but will eventually drain into Joe Pool Lake which is currently +12.47' above conservation pool.

I'm curious though as to why they don't have the dam open at all this morning in anticipation of the incoming water. Corps of Engineers shows 0 cfs being released at Joe Pool. I didn't see how large Padera was but I would think if it sends a decent amount of water down stream it would pretty hard on Joe Pool. Obviously the Corps knows what they're doing I guess.

it's been around a while, the google imagery date is 10/2/2014, so it was taken pretty much at the height of the drought. The oldest picture of that area on google earth goes back to 1995, and the lake is there and full.

I can't see any of the houses near there being in actual danger if the dam does fail, but i'm sure that erring on the side of super caution is the mentality right now versus anything else.

They're saying now that it won't break.

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If failure is "immenent", they have about $250k worth of equipment sitting on top of the dam that is expected to fail. Not sure I really understand that, but whatever.

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MIDLOTHIAN, Texas - Officials were worried Wednesday morning that the dam on a tiny lake in Ellis County was about to fail. Now they believe it will hold for another day.Residents in Midlothian and Grand Prairie were warned that the dam on Padera Lake, often referred to as Texas Lake, was compromised.City engineers re-evaluated the dam in the daylight and determined it was more stable that it had been. The volume of water in the lake has decreased.

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rental insurance.

It is over 100 acres and I imagine it has an average of 4' or more of depth.

So you're looking at over 400 acre feet of water, or 400 ac-ft X 325,851 gallons = 130,340,400 gallons going into Joe Pool.

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If failure is "immenent", they have about $250k worth of equipment sitting on top of the dam that is expected to fail. Not sure I really understand that, but whatever.

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looks like pumps. maybe they were hoping to save it? sacrificing 250k worth of equipment may be worth the damage mitigated if it breaks. Of course, it it does break, now you've lost equipment and whatever was downstream

They have the water level below the crest now, so they might be out of the woods as long as the weather cooperates. But that was the cost benefit, pups and equip, or a dam and whatever else is blamed due to the flood.

They've been working a few days to save the dam. Now that's it's about to fail, do you want to risk your life to save some equipment or be the guy that orders people to go up there?

They are saying it won't break after all

Flood control dam, and it was undergoing rehab.

That was created over a week ago, before this past weekends rain events. Is it updated?

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Did someone say the Brazos was running at 100,000cfs? Holy hell!

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Prediction of around 75k at the 1462 gauge. 75k is a monster flow for the Brazos, 100k would be on the very destructive side.

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Hempstead should crest 5/29 at 46 feet rolling at 90.7kcfs.

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Prediction of around 75k at the 1462 gauge. 75k is a monster flow for the Brazos, 100k would be on the very destructive side.

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Hempstead should crest 5/29 at 46 feet rolling at 90.7kcfs.

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Bryan is supposed to reach 45.7 ft this evening. I hope that is correct. The chart says 43 ft is flood stage, but i think it has to get around 50 ft before the bottom to flood.

Predicting more strong thunderstorms in the Midlothian area for the next several days. Hope the dam holds.

Just noticed that Somerville is only 2 feet below the emergency spillway and still rising. That will put another slug of water into the Brazos.

Looks like it rose nearly 3 feet yesterday. So it could be spilling by late tonight.

NOAA's scale has run out range for many parts of Texas.

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I-10 was under water on my way to work, but dry as Hilldawg's coach on the way home.

Drainage looks to be good but 8-12" of rain in a couple of hours will flood even the best drainage areas.

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Hilldawg's coach? What does that....?

Oh, nm. I figured it out. Wish I hadn't.