So far looks like it's just cattle moving time, again.

If the upcoming rains are more significant then I can't even comprehend what I will do. I don't think I can take a 3rd 100 year flood in 3 years and 6 50 year floods in 4. We just rebuilt for the 4th time (1 was a tornado, or 'micro burst'.

Traveling in our motorhome and Midwest rivers flooded as well. Couldn't get into an RV park in eastern Arkansas due to Miss. River out of its banks. Indiana extremely wet. Will be a while before farmers can work their fields. Hi point - met some super good Ags while on the road.

If that graphic is anywhere near accurate, that's going to be bad

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Gonna be a bad week if this much rain happens in a short period of time. If it's 1-2 inches a day, it will be manageable though.

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Manageable for the small watersheds yes. The lakes are full, so it'll strain the rivers.

Mississippi is already at 1993 levels and breaking levees. Corps gonna have their hands full at old river control i bet.

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So far looks like it's just cattle moving time, again.

If the upcoming rains are more significant then I can't even comprehend what I will do. I don't think I can take a 3rd 100 year flood in 3 years and 6 50 year floods in 4. We just rebuilt for the 4th time (1 was a tornado, or 'micro burst'.

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Same here. We will be working on them this evening and tomorrow morning.

It's sad to see the frequency increase so drastically. Urban sprawl has massive consequences.

Not much luck on cows. We will try in the morning. We have until Wednesday.

Lots of young calves. Big cows will be fine, but the young calves won't take the water and survive.

that truly sucks

But we've got lots of practice and time to work the problem.

We got the momma cows with missing calves penned up in the bottom and hope they start calling them up.

Cows are dumb, but once they sense the flood (it's still early) they know the safe spot is the trap and pen.

2-3 month old calves don't.

We live in Southwest part of Lubbock area, that storm brought us quarter size hail and heavy rain. Once it moved south an east, it got bigger and meaner.

Amazed at how people keep driving towards it. Likely too busy texting to notice what is up ahead.

had 1.5" in Tilden on Friday night.

We live SW of New Home. Watched this storm from the back porch pass between us and greater Lubbock. It continued to back build as it got east of us and then turned nasty. By the time the tornado formed, it was about 10 miles east-southeast of us, moving southeast.

We live in rural Lynn County, so our address is Tahoka. Fielded A LOT of texts last night making sure we were safe.

Turns out we only had a little pea to marble size hail and less than a quarter inch of rain when it was all said and done. Lost power a couple of times, but the local co-op is awesome and rerouting and keeping us up and running.

I office out of Tilden. Our plant got hammered with rain south of town.

New map looks ominous

Central Bastrop county here. My pastures are lakes. Pretty flat so water has no where to go. Not soaking in.

The south side of my cattle pens is under water and I have friggin' ducks landing and sitting in the water.

Need a break from this.

Always crazy to see what a little distance does in terms of wanting or not wanting rain.

My FIL just south of you in central Fayette county has missed a lot of the big rains. And while green, hasn't received a good soaking. He's wanting more.

Weather geeks are getting geeked up for the 806 tomorrow. They're not always right 24 hours ahead, but it's probably gonna get interesting.

Kinda interesting now

They revised us down to 119.5' at San Felipe and 46.1' in Richmond. But this doesn't account for the end of the week rain (forecast only has 24hr rain built in), which they keep increasing the amount forecasted.

Are those little bright specks for the 10-15" of rain?

Let's hope they're right. We moved the cattle but if Richmond gauge hits 50 it gets biblical around here. Low tide in Freeport and a bit of eastern drift in the forecast is really helping. Unfortunately the road to our place is almost gone. As in gone forever.

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Let's hope they're right. We moved the cattle but if Richmond gauge hits 50 it gets biblical around here. Low tide in Freeport and a bit of eastern drift in the forecast is really helping. Unfortunately the road to our place is almost gone. As in gone forever.

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Wait explain do you mean the your road is now becoming where the river is?

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cbr said:

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Let's hope they're right. We moved the cattle but if Richmond gauge hits 50 it gets biblical around here. Low tide in Freeport and a bit of eastern drift in the forecast is really helping. Unfortunately the road to our place is almost gone. As in gone forever.

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Wait explain do you mean the your road is now becoming where the river is?

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Yep. River didn't move for 10 years. Last 4 years it's cut 200' out of the Cutbank. I'll be talking to the neighbors about cutting a new road through their place very soon. There's about 15 homes/ranches that won't have any road in or out otherwise.

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cbr said:

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Let's hope they're right. We moved the cattle but if Richmond gauge hits 50 it gets biblical around here. Low tide in Freeport and a bit of eastern drift in the forecast is really helping. Unfortunately the road to our place is almost gone. As in gone forever.

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Wait explain do you mean the your road is now becoming where the river is?

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Yep. River didn't move for 10 years. Last 4 years it's cut 200' out of the Cutbank. I'll be talking to the neighbors about cutting a new road through their place very soon. There's about 15 homes/ranches that won't have any road in or out otherwise.

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Damn Mother Nature is a ferocious **** some times

I tell you what, that river is a *****. We saw an 80' cottonwood, full leafed, fall in from the bank one time in the 16 flood. The shocker was that river sucked that whole tree totally under and we never saw it again. Not one leaf. And we could see for 1000 yards.

If that current did that, it would have also sucked a boat clean under.

We are on the bend surrounding Allen's creek. The creek is literally 3x's as wide as it was when I was a kid after the mid 90s floods. Most of that was Harvey. We love a tremendous amount of high back on the house property, but our sandbar has doubled in size over the last 10 years.

Some stuff on 1458 now has a ridge of deposits that actually cut it off from draining into the river. So it holds water like a swamp now.

But those Richmond houses sure look nice with a giant levee around it.

ETA: 8 cows and 5 calves still in the bottom and they won't come out of the brush. Hopefully the water pushes them out so we can catch them.

What I've been wondering is why don't we have lower lakes on the brazos closer to Houston and such to help with flood control

Because the ones proposed will do nothing but make flooding worse and be used to provide water for Houston.

Allen's creek reservoir project is the one that would be the most realistic and it's a boondoggle.

Houston wants all the water, but has zero money to build it. Brazos River Authority holds the land rights but wants the water once built. It was originally designed for a nuclear power plant that was never built.

However it's not a "dam lake". They will pump water out of the river using a pump house when flow is good and store it and release water when river is low. So all of the land that naturally floods will be surrounded by levees and the water will be pushed elsewhere.

Sore subject with local land owners.

ETA: Goodbye to a River by John Graves was written during the period of lake building and motivated the opposition to damming the river. It's still in a semi pure state, I would hate to see that change.

Looks like another wet spring out West. Sorry for you guys down here and near the Brazos or Colorado... I know it has been bad the last 3-4 years.

Ignore the emoji ... was supposed to be mobile but I fat fingered it. Hope that doesn't come off the wrong way.

Aggie_3 said:

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What I've been wondering is why don't we have lower lakes on the brazos closer to Houston and such to help with flood control

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Quick and dirty answer: topography of the area wont' allow for it. We are low and flat, any form of reservoirs will take up a massive amount of land, and with the cost of land, politics and growth rate - not going to happen.

Allen's Creek is about the only reservoir "on the books" in the area. But it's been on the books since the 70's and has been a charlie foxtrot politically since then as it is a combination of BRA, HL&P (Centerpoint) and COH, all of which have competing interests and goals.

Plus, my understanding of the area is that it isn't ideal for a storage reservoir due to the existing ground conditions anyway, and the local landowners don't want it. Houston doesn't have the money to build it, and BRA isn't going to front the bill without substantial financial support from COH.

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Yep allens creek gets pushed as a nice ski lake and city of houston water. Unspoken is that thousands of acre feet of flood bottoms would already have water full time, making flooding up and down river much, much worse.

The real issue is that 17 private developers were allowed to build new levees in richmond/sugarland without any permitting, feasibility studies, flood mitigation, or compensation to the people they flooded by damming up the river. I may be doing something about that soon.

Bottom line, weve had nowhere near enough rain to be flooding but for these levees.

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Yep. Though I have to admit that I"m a downstream beneficiary of the levees, but in general - I'm not a fan of levees on rivers to begin with.

Rivers are supposed to flood, that is Nature's way of depositing nutrients and silt so we can have awesome farm land. It also puts silt and soils into the marshes, which we desperately need to maintain. Our systematic "management" of riverine systems has, in my half uneducated opinion, royally F'd up our bay and marsh systems. All because idiots build on rivers or bottom lands and then are shocked when they flood every other year. Newsflash: that is what is supposed to happen, by design.

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Let's hope they're right. We moved the cattle but if Richmond gauge hits 50 it gets biblical around here. Low tide in Freeport and a bit of eastern drift in the forecast is really helping. Unfortunately the road to our place is almost gone. As in gone forever.

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Are you around the 1093 bend in the river?

Local land owners don't really want it, however BRA already has ownership of the vast majority of the land required. It is just leased back to the original owners.