If the person(s) doing the lawn care have been taking antibiotics or steroids or hormones or they have been eating GMO meat or GMO veggies or drinking non-organic milk, then the lawn care is technically not organic.

Corn gluten is very effective at attracting ants, and getting all over you when you go into the yard. Organic is not prone to produce results consistent with most people's wants. If it makes you feel better, use it. No matter what, I would use the best insecticides available as fleas and ants will make enjoying your yard impossible. Learn how to water the yard as well.

I'm a fipronil using fool when it comes to ants. Don't have a problem in my lawn but out at the ranch its a battle.

Medina is a brand of organic products out of Hondo that are typically used for lawn and gardens, although they do play a little bit in the larger scale cropland situations. They used to be mostly found at nurseries and such, but in the last few years their stuff has been carried at HD and Lowes, at least in San Antonio. I've had good results with the Hasta-Gro for lawns and Growin Green.

http://www.medinaag.com/

Medina hasta grow on my maters. Good stuff.

Okay, I'm very familiar with Medina products, I
just wasn't sure if the poster talking about turkey poop and molasses was referring to THAT medina or some other product designed for another use.

Kjodie, what type of grass do you have?

St. Augustine. but they tailor to your type.

I am not an agronomist, but in getting my Ag Ed degree, I did make a B in Agronomy 301...also known as Murray ****ords Mystery Hour. In all seriousness, I never learned diddly until I got out in the real world.

I have nothing to add to this thread except I saw a gardening show on TV where a guy piled compost on his lawn (on a regular basis) and was talking about how he had the only green lawn on his street during a drought, without watering his lawn.

Lots of issues with non-green yards around here may be years of watering with high SAR (sodium adsorption ratio) water, especially in the swelling clays and gumbo around here with little or no percolation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_adsorption_ratio

According to WIKI: If irrigation water with a high SAR is applied to a soil for years, the sodium in the water can displace the calcium and magnesium in the soil. This will cause a decrease in the ability of the soil to form stable aggregates and a loss of soil structure and tilth. This will also lead to a decrease in infiltration and permeability of the soil to water leading to problems with crop production.

I know I have run SAR tests on water and spoken with a lot of ag experts on my hay crops and have learned this from the results (40+ SAR values) of the tests and the advice they have given. Basically, We have enough rain during average seasons that, coupled with higher permeable soils, will offset the effects of watering with the local high sar stuff. BUT, if it is not permeable soil and we are in a drought, some damage will occur. Once the permeability has been severely effected, it requires some mechanical intervention to deal with it, to the best of my understanding.

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yup that's the one...medina hasta-grow...don't give it any other choice! they have a new mix just for lawns that's bb size and has higher nitrogen...smells more like mild seaweed than turkey poo and no dust. But good luck finding a bag in the stores.

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Ahhhh, Dr. Milford's class. "It's SOIL! "Dirt" is a four letter word!!" That class was something else. Loved it though.

And Chetos....HastaGro is a liquid formulation. Do you mean Growin Green?

yup mr. beer...I just got sloppy in an attempt to make a pun. the liquid stuff greens it up quick but seems pricey for the coverage...I just put a lot of the granules down as often as I think about it. Typically half the dosage every month. I think they recommend every quarter or something like that. I got lots of happy worms so it must be doing right for the soil/dirt.

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Ahhhh, Dr. ****ord's class. "It's SOIL! "Dirt" is a four letter word!!" That class was something else. Loved it though.

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Ahhhh, Dr. Milford's class. "It's SOIL! "Dirt" is a four letter word!!" That class was something else. Loved it though.

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And the correct definition of soil is not "Good rock gone bad!"...

Corn gluten and media product seem to work well for me. My yard wasn't 100% we'd free but definitely had the last weeds on the block.