And Doc as for him asking about 4 scopes I was just trying to suggest another brand he might consider in the same price range. Ive had wonderful results with Kahles scopes.

Sean, I've got 4 Kahles scopes!
In fact I just bought a 3.5X10 for my latest Mod.70 Featherweight.
The history of Kahles scopes is really interesting.
I also heard from a rep little while back that when Swarovski bought out Kahles they make their collective scopes in the Kahles factory and Spotting Scopes/Binoculars in the Swarovski factory.

As for you Lostboy....you really are lost, boy.

NW with the second bite. You girls are too easy.

I watched some goat hunting show on the tube the other night. They were hunting near where they make Swarovski's. They had a good tour of their facility.....impressive to say the least.

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Allegedly the Kahles family were the first to develope the "variable" scope.
They were taken over during the war as I undeerstand it but resumed production after WWII.
Really good stuff though.

I am a Leupold guy. The one you have picked out for $779 is a great scope. I am sure you would be happy with it. I have been hunting for almost 40 years and have never had a problem with any of my leupold scopes.

You fixed "leaset" but not "Sarovski"??

I was worried you had a stroke and were typing 1 handed.

I was switching hands. You sure are chatty for a guy sitting in a tree stand. That may be the cause of AC falling out of the tree. Type in "help" so you'll have time to hit send on the way down.

After reading this thread, I feel so inadequate with my Weaver K4.

For someone as "handsome" as Sean, I'm surprised that he has time to type at all. Or, maybe he's just good at it one handed.

Can't say enough about Kahles, love the TDS ballistic reticle, although I was told it was moved over exclusively to swar a few years back.

40-42mm with a 1" tube is plenty. Also compare FOV-falls off dramatically with higher power.

SWFA's sample list has one Kahles on there now, iirc it was. 42mm hunter for about $600-$700

Either way compare prices on samplelist.com (SWFA's demo and used scope URL)

Recently bought the Kahles 3.5-10X50 for $639.

But I also like the aforementioned scopes by the OP alot!
Probably would have gotten a Zeiss Conquest had I not found the deal on the Kahles.

I have the 30 mm 6.5-20 x 50 on my sendero 7 mag

I absolutely love it and wouldn't give it up ( except or the new Swarovski or a Leupold VX-7). My binoculars are 10 power so if I see a deer at distance I ran really zoom in and check em out. All shots I make are around 10-14 power so the same power ranges as the lower power scopes you mentioned

I feel that it is a great high power rifle scope nd a dual purpose low power spotting scope

You should be able to smack a deer at 500 yards with a fixed 6X, 14X-20X is simply not needed.

If you bench test loads, 14X is plenty at 100 and 20X is not needed. With targets I designed specifically for the Conquest 3x9, I have been able to shoot 3 shot groups at 100 between .3"-.5" easily and have plenty of targets to back up what I typed.

The best deal in scopes is the Zeiss Conquest 3x9, 399.00 demo from Cameraland with a full warranty from Zeiss. Send it to Zeiss for target knobs, 120.00 for the pair or 60.00 for the elevation knob.

If you shop, you can find like new 3x9's for 300-325, I have bought three in the last six months.

Leupold has been plagued with issues the last ten years, optics are still nice but repeatability problems are well documented. I am not anti-Leupold, I have two now and will buy at least one more, an older Vari-X III 2.5x8; a situation where the size of even a 3x9 Conquest would be too long and the style not appropriate on a classic walnut and blue carbine.

The Vari-X III 2.5x8 is one of the finest scopes available before Leupold went crazy and tried to offer a scope for every possible market known to man and quality took a dive.

In the past I have not had the ability or desire to pay for a Nightforce, Khales or Swarovski. But I do have one all-weather rifle that I would not mind topping with the best of the best.

Of course, this is all my opinion and worth everything you paid for it. At least compare scopes side by side in the field and on targets to access the resolution and brightness. Shoot a four square to assess tracking. Don't be sold on opinions.






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Heck after reading most of these responses, why get a dang worthless scope. Heck just use iron sights like a MAN.... <sarcastic post>

D,

Send me an email. I have a Zeiss Conquest 4.5x14 on my rifle you can shoot sometime, and we need to talk about hcaggies.com.

nickjwyman at gmail.

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Screw all that. In that price range, Vortex is the way to go.

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+1 I have a Vortex Viper 4x12 on my 270WSM and love it!

And yeah, 4x12 is overkill at the distances I typically shoot, however for some reason the Viper 3x9 tube was a tad too short to span the receiver with the ring bases I had and I didn't wanna fool with custom mounts...so I went with the longer tube.