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Remington 700 vs Browning A-Bolt vs Winchester model 70

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mmtexasace
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Buying a new hunting rifle this season and just wanted some input. I am getting the .270win. I have previously shot the 700 in a .243 and 30-06 but not the a-bolt or m70. Any advice or input would be appreciated thanks!
Sean98
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Tough to go wrong. I prefer the Model 70, but it's all personal preference.
valverde03
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I have owned all three, and I vote for the Winchester, particularly the supergrade. The extra weight makes it smooth shooting with little recoil, and the wood is beautiful. Remington is fine, but some people swear by the mausser style extractor ( which the 700 lacks). I recently had the bolt on an a bolt crack and browning wanted to charge me the cost of the rifle to fix it. They said it was caused by high pressure rounds, even though I only shot factory loads. I will never buy another browning product.
Bluto
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I have the winchester model 70 .270 and like it. Not sure what the specs are, but I inherited it from grandpa, so I'm pretty sure its the pre 1970 or whichever is the really popular one. Finally took the factory scope off (weaver x6) and put a VXIII on it last year. Probably won't buy another rifle unless I ever go on an Elk hunt.
DiskoTroop
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Another vote for the model 70 here. The 700 and the A-Bolt are both great rifles as well but I like the trigger mechanism on the Winchester best and as said above, a Supergrade is one of the finest production rifles to be had. Truly truly fine.
ghollow
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Nothing wrong with any of those rifles. My preference is the Remington. You might also want to look at the Ruger M77 Hawkeye
Texas 1836
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valverde, I thought post 64 Model 70's were push feed actions, like the 700.
Doc Hayworth
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Even though you didn't list it, you should also look at the HOWA. Same as the Weatherby Vanguard and very accurate out of the box.
SouthpawAggie
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I prefer the Browning A-Bolt simply because its the gun passed down from my uncle.

The trigger was very stiff but I did some tinkering with it and have it where I like it.

As said above, those are all great guns. I would buy any of them. Let us know what you decide on, then we'll give scope advice!
Sean98
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Let us know what you decide on, then we'll give scope advice!


I hope he's rich!
schmellba99
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I vote the Winchester, but it all boils down to personal preference.

Valverde - .270 is plenty of gun to take elk. Buy another one just for the hell of it though.
AggieRob93
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valverde, I thought post 64 Model 70's were push feed actions, like the 700.



Mark, I think Winchester had a push feed Model 70 in the late 70's or early 80's, but they absolutely went back to and are control feed actions.

My vote is the model 70!
GSS
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Before USRA/Winchester went under, they resurrected (late `80's?) the controlled feed/Mauser action in their Classic series, yet still offered some models in push-feed.
Under FN, I'm assuming only the controlled feed units are offered.
I have an early 90's Mod 70 Classic FW in 7mm-08, and it is a sweet rifle.
BoozerRed78
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I bought a Browning X-Bolt Medallion in .270 last year - best gun purchase I ever made. Highly recommend it (in whatever caliber suits you) to anyone considering the purchase of a hunting rifle.
Chief77
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I vote for the 700 Rem. as they have better steel in their barrels. I have several 700's and all are nail drivers with my handloads.
Ark03
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My answer is always the 700. I love the action, it has a decent trigger, and I have lots of great memories with different Remington 700's that have never let me down.

I've got nothing against the model 70, but don't have much experience with it.

I own an a-bolt in .300 winmag that I've used to harvast 5-6 muledeer (and have family that owns others (.280 and .270 a-bolts), and have had a very consistant problem. Off the shelf, the bolt occasionally fails to feed the second shell out of the magazine. The problem is that the magazine doesn't fit as tightly as it should. My dad happens to be a gunsmith and it's a simple fix, but I'd want to be really comfortable with one before taking it on a big trip.

[This message has been edited by Ark03 (edited 11/10/2011 9:54a).]
mmtexasace
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Thanks for the replies so far. I also have been looking into a tikka t3 lite. Any thoughts about that gun?
NW80
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Dealer's choice.
Unless you're hunting dangerous game a push feed Mod. 700 is fine. They have the fastest "lock time" of any bolt action out there (hence target shooters love them).

That being said, I own more Mod.70s, both Pre-64s and Mod.70 Classics.

Can't speak to Brownings except O/U shotguns.
Marshall10
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I own both a Remington 700 Sendero and a Browning A-bolt white gold medalion II. The Browning is a beautiful rifle and the wood is excellent with an octogon barrel and engraving. The Remington is a better hunting rifle and shoots much tighter groups. Depends on how much hnting and in what conditions. If you hunt alot and need it for longer range stuff or in poor conditions like rain. . .I would go Remington 7oo Sendero. If you are hunting in a blind in the hill country I would go with the A-Bolt.
mmtexasace
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Pretty much decided not to go with browning now...
OleRock02
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My local FFL/used gun guy has a new looking Remington 700 Sendero .270 for less than $700.

Edit: Email me if you want his contact info.

[This message has been edited by OleRock02 (edited 11/10/2011 1:16p).]
DiskoTroop
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When they first came out I was excited at the idea of the Tikka rifles, but from what I understand, they're being given mediocre reviews of late. I'm sure they're decent rifles, but I'm not longer positive they're in the same tier as the Remington's, Brownings, Winchesters, etc...

Also, I'll second the nod to the Howa 1500 series. Like I said above, I have a Winchester Model 70 in .25-06, but I also have a Howa 1500 in .308. It's an exceptional rifle, though the factory trigger was pretty nasty. I had my gunsmith (Bobby Pitchford, www.pcgguns.com )do a trigger job and it came out REALLY nice. Bobby's been used by several folks on this board and they'll all attest to his skill.
Neches21
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How do the FN Winchester guns compare to the original WRA guns? are they even the same thing?
I'm in the market as well.
My 700 misfired this week when I flipped it on fire.
OleRock02
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Neches21 - I'm looking for a .308 cal 700, if you've got one you want to sell.
milkman00
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Neches did you own that gun from new and did you ever have any work done on it? Sounds like the first personal story of the tv program I've heard.
Neches21
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The 700 is at least 20 years old. Never had any work done on it. I can write more on it later.
aggiesq
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i'll toss in my 2 cents. i dont have any experience with the A bolt (though i always liked the predecessor BBR and would love to have one of those one day) so i cant speak to it, but between the 700, 70 and ruger 77 you really cant go wrong.

i've personally used the 77 a lot, and as my first love it has a special place in my heart. but i've also used the 700 and 70 and theyre both solid rifles too. (and the above poster is right about winchester switching from mauser-type controlled feed to a push feed on the 70 for a period, but switching back in the early 90s i think).

as with any mass produced item, you might get a bad apple, but thats true of all 3 and more likely on all 3 youll get a solid gun you can pass down the family.

RightWingConspirator
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I own a tikka t3 tactical in .308 and a tikka t3 in .30-06. I've been very pleased with my tikkas. I don't have any complaints about either of them.
rab79
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If you can get past the apperance the savage 110 with an accutrigger will do nothing but shoot. That said, if I'm buying I probably go for the winchester, then the ruger.
JB!98
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Win Mod 70 - best shooting gun that I have!

I have a 700 in both 270 and 243 and they are good guns, but just dont have the feel of the Mod 70.

I have an A-bolt in 7mm that I will switch out with the model 70 depending on what I feel like shooting. I like this gun and this round, it is like shooting a laser. I have however had the feed problem mentioned in the post above. (Interesting to hear about the probably cause, I will check into that. Thanks)

That's why I put the mod 70 over the A-bolt. That and its my grandpa's that we both fell out of the tree with. (See missed shots thread)
WildcatAg
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How do the FN Winchester guns compare to the original WRA guns? are they even the same thing?

I heard from somewhere (can't remember where) that the first batch of FN model 70s had accuracy problems.
Log
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When WRA was on their last legs, their QC really dropped off. Lots of lemons came out of the factory, which kind of tarnished their reputation.

Once FN bought them, they started back up, and were producing rifles, I believe mainly the Tactical SPR and PBR types (based on the Model 70 action), from the original factory in CT. FN decided to consolidate all of their manufacturing to SC, so instead of moving the leftover inventory, they wholesaled it to CDNN. That's where I picked up my PBR XP barrelled action. It shoots tiny groups with FGMM.

As far as I know, I don't believe that any of the FN produced Model 70's have had major issues. I think people just associated the first runs of FN Model 70's with the last-legs WRA Model 70's. If anything, the FN rifles are better than the WRA rifles were.
mmtexasace
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I think most likely gonna get a 700 less I find something used at a decent price I really like. I think I'm also gonna go 30-06 caliber now. Thanks for all the replies been very helpful!
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