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Ag65Son
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NW80,

I grew up on the nothern edge of the Hill Country. Growing up, what we commonly referred to as "Barbado's" are now referred to as "Exotic Rams". Heck, I have even seen pictures on web sites and in magazines of people posing proudly with nothing more than domesticated Delaine/Rambioullet rams with full curl horns they killed on a "hunt".

I understand the concept of the right to hunt and kill whatever you want, I also understand that capitalism, the need and desire to make money, has inundated the hunting industry and in a lot of ways tainted it. I just don't appreciate people talking about what a nuisance a particular animal is and how bad they are then trying to cash in on them.

Whatever happened to letting friends and neighbors hunt rather than trying to see how much $$$ we can profit because we're either lucky enough or rich enough to own land or control the hunting on it? What's wrong with asking somebody from church or your job to come share in the joy of the outdoors? Why not invite young people who MOST LIKELY CAN'T AFFORD TO HUNT OR DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OR ADULT GUIDANCE TO DO SO to hunt on your ranch or lease and introduce them to hunting?

This is my last post on this topic but I will say this, we (hunters) are our own worst enemy. If you watch the TV shows, they always end with a statement telling everybody to take a child hunting or fishing, but how many kids do you see on those shows that aren't Bill Jordan's son or Michael Waddell's kids? If we (once again hunters) don't get off our high horses and do more to recruit young people and non hunters into our ranks, one of these days none of us will enjoy the privilege. wor
Urban Ag
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Urban, today is your lucky day. See, I'm from New Mexico, and I hear that y'all have hogs over in your neck of the woods and that they're a real problem. I figure you can put me on some or if not give me some numbers of other folks who'd be able too...



SanAntoneAg - I can help you out bro.

try these guys first

www.elrancholadeepsheet.com

if that doesn't work, I hear these guys cater to out of state hunters

deliverancehoghunts.com

happy I could help

kutacj
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I'd be more than happy to help anyone out that wants to get rid of a couple big Auodad! I think he would look great on my wall next to my Sika and Fallow.

Let me know if there are any takers?

kutac0419 at yahoo dot com
Urban Ag
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Whatever happened to letting friends and neighbors hunt rather than trying to see how much $$$ we can profit because we're either lucky enough or rich enough to own land or control the hunting on it? What's wrong with asking somebody from church or your job to come share in the joy of the outdoors? Why not invite young people who MOST LIKELY CAN'T AFFORD TO HUNT OR DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OR ADULT GUIDANCE TO DO SO to hunt on your ranch or lease and introduce them to hunting?


why do you make the assumption that this doesn't happen? You have a pretty myoptic view here.

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his is my last post on this topic

Why? I'd like you to explain your obvious need to broadbrush a particular group of ranchers. This all or nothing approach is ridiculous.
Sean98
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...I think with commodity prices where they are right now some of you that are lucky enough to own land should let me come farm and harvest on your property just because you're a nice fella...

Why the hell should you be able to farm your land and I shouldn't?
Urban Ag
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Sean98 = obvious Obama supporter
Sean98
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Even joking that's not f***ing funny!
Urban Ag
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I know, sorry Sean.

sunchaser
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Ag65....I don't think I've ever said they all need to be killed....I would say managed. NW80 is at a different level. Likewise I hate blue quail more than he does.

People will pay to hunt/shoot a big aoudad....aoudad aren't totally stupid and a big one in a west Texas setting was probably a well earned trophy.

They have thrived and some really big ones have been killed in recent years. A friend killed a big one about five or so years ago....2nd largest ever recorded. He got the paper work and was prepared to pay his one grand plus.....before he could complete the paper work his aoudad was in 5th place.

Total strangers don't get a free pass to come on your ranch and pop a few things because it's nearly impossible to keep poachers from coming in and popping a few things...365 days a year.


It might be a great treat for you to go hunt an aoudad but if you killed more than one a day I would be surprised. That's not managing.

Family and friends....
Bbatt99
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But does the meat taste good or is it a shoot and drag off deal?
kutacj
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I would recommend dragging it off. I wouldnt even try making sausage out of it.
Pro Sandy
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is it a shoot and drag off deal?


If you do this with any animal you shouldn't be hunting.
aggzwin
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I know both the people who will soon have the #2 and #1 largest aoudads ever recorded by SCI. Both guys are from San Antonio and the new #1 will beat the old #1 by over 25 pts and was killed on a non-guided hunt on their deer lease about 50 miles west of Sonora. The new #1 has horns over 38" long.
Bbatt99
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The only thing that I have ever drug off was a big nasty 200lb boar. Which is why I was asking about the meat aspect of the Aoudad. I would hate to shoot one and find out the meat is awful. Has anyone ever ate one? I know some have said they would never.
Sean98
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quote: is it a shoot and drag off deal?



If you do this with any animal you shouldn't be hunting.


I reckon I shouldn't hunt then because I will shoot pigs and let them run off all day long. In fact, I try NOT to shoot them where they'll fall where they are. I don't want to drag them.
Urban Ag
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saying you should eat every feral hog you kill is like saying you should eat rats in a trap.

Urban Ag
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Bbatt99 - I think the lack of responses on the "good eatin" aspect of Aoudad probably tells you what you need to know.
Pro Sandy
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sean, at least donate the damn meat!


I do not shoot something unless I am going to eat it. We eat javelina, hog, deer, dove, quail, squirrel, rabbit, sheep, anything we hunt.
There have been times when we shot a large hog and didn't want to mess with it, so we gave it away. We didn't shoot it and just let it rot. That is unsportsmanlike.
Bbatt99
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Urban - I was afraid of that.
f burg ag
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Ag65son- As a land owner, I am guessing you do not like fire ants, right? They annoy the helll out of you and can occasionally be responsible for the death of a newborn lamb. Well, someone just told you that they would pay you $500 if you let them come in and shake Andro on all your ant mounds. Are you going to turn them down because you don't want to make a profit on the same ants you curse?
Bbatt99
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It appears that at least one person eats them.

http://www.texasboars.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9983&sid=42a7b5fb68e3a1195cff5f7b5a918bb3
sunchaser
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Pro Sandy....In case someone needs to manage about 100 aoudad one day via a helicopter. Would you be interested in loading, skinning, quartering and delivering it to the charities? They accept it that way but prefer it frozen.
Dynastar97
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I always enjoy when someone gets on here and claims they eat every single animal they kill. I'm all for not wasting good meat on animals, but I'm not going to serve up coyote burgers and boar stew for dinner. And even better, they suggest to do otherwise is "unsportsmanlike". Pro Sandy, the "sporting" aspect of hunting has nothing to do with whether or not you eat the animal after it is killed. Based on that, you could tie up a white tail, stand 10 feet away and blast it with a rifle, and then as long as you eat it, you were being sportsmanlike. The sporting aspect comes in to play with the manner in which you hunt the animal.
Blanco Jimenez
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at least donate the damn meat


We shoot and trap so many hogs a year that we can't even give the meat away anymore. Unless someone is willing to pay my family for the damages to their crops, pasture, and fences, I will continue to shoot them where they run off and die.
FJB
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San Antone Ag - I laughed.
Urban Ag
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The sporting aspect comes in to play with the manner in which you hunt the animal.



Most of the time there is nothing sporting about the way I "hunt" hogs and I have no problem with that. And since I am okay with that, I also don't find it offensive that I feed them out to the buzzards.
Comeby!
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The capitalism side of hunting has gotten absolutely ridiculous. I can't even stomach looking at the latest TTH mag because of this now high stakes and genetic BS.
BULL
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OK Boyz......

First bath of popcorn is popped.....and I got another in the cooker!

Never dreamed this thread would roll into what it is now.

For the record......those goats make awesome mounts...but they DO stink "all to be hell"!
greenmachine
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to the guy asking how they taste. A big ram is not good eatin as with any sheep or goat, but the nannies and younguns arent bad at all, very similar taste to most of ur blackfaced domestic sheep. If you dont like the muttony lamb taste then you wont like it. But bone out the leg and throw it in a crock pot with some bbq sauce for 6 hrs and its pretty tasty.
greenmachine
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Ive never really smelled them as some of yall claim, we do have mouflon back home around the lake and those things stink to high heaven.
Pro Sandy
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Pro Sandy, the "sporting" aspect of hunting has nothing to do with whether or not you eat the animal after it is killed. Based on that, you could tie up a white tail, stand 10 feet away and blast it with a rifle, and then as long as you eat it, you were being sportsmanlike. The sporting aspect comes in to play with the manner in which you hunt the animal.


Wow, good job on putting words into my mouth.

I said that killing just to kill and not doing anything with the animal is unsportsmanlike. I did not say that the only thing that makes something sportsmanlike is eating the animal. Based on your post, you have an extremely limited understanding of hunting and sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is much more than just eating the meat or the way you hunt the animal.

I stand by what I said. Hunting just to kill and not do anything with the body is unsportsmanlike. Take it or leave it, but that is how I was raised, what I believe, and what I will teach and pass on.

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Pro Sandy....In case someone needs to manage about 100 aoudad one day via a helicopter. Would you be interested in loading, skinning, quartering and delivering it to the charities? They accept it that way but prefer it frozen.

No I will not go out and clean your animals for you. I clean and butcher my own animals and only shoot animals that I will clean and butcher, the exception being the occasional hog that we give away.
RRAggie99
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I'm not one to place judgement on anyone so I am making it clear that I am not flaming anyone here! My personal opinion is that I only shoot what I plan to eat** and wont kill a animal and "let it lay" (how my Dad and uncles taught me to hunt). Even the few trophy animals i've taken....I gave the meat to other hunters in the group to make sure it went to good use (blackbuck & aoudad). With my aoudad, I only kept the straps and loins and gave both hind quarters to a guy wanting to make sausage. Later in that season that person cooked some of the sausage at camp (50% pork, 50% aoudad) and there is no way you could ever tell the difference....As far as the straps, I chicken fried them like I would venison....same story.

**not to say I dont have a # of animals on my bucket list that I plan to have mounted that wont be eaten! bobcat, fox, javelina, ringtail....
greenmachine
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i agree with sandy and rraggie
Dynastar97
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Hunting just to kill and not do anything with the body is unsportsmanlike.

I guess we'll just have to disagree on this point. Hogs are a nuisance. They destroy property. I view them the same as a rat. Actually, I view them much worse than a rat. I guess you want me to eat that coyote as well. Not happenin'.
Comeby!
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This is appropriate here...
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