AggiEE said:

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A female protagonist is supposedly "hating their audience". What a joke. Their audience that actually played it enjoyed the game. Those following some fake culture war can play what they like best, typing online

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Or it could be that they chose a nonbinary, lesbian voice actor who claims to be a member of Antifa and one of their senior devs mocked the Charlie Kirk assassination. But keep trying to sell the gamers hate women narrative.

AggiEE said:

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agdoc2001 said:

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AggiEE said:

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A female protagonist is supposedly "hating their audience". What a joke. Their audience that actually played it enjoyed the game. Those following some fake culture war can play what they like best, typing online

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Or it could be that they chose a nonbinary, lesbian voice actor who claims to be a member of Antifa and one of their senior devs mocked the Charlie Kirk assassination. But keep trying to sell the gamers hate women narrative.

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If you looked under the microscope of every single product you use, it would have had people work on it that you disagree with.

You going boycott everything and starve to death?

The employee that made the comment was fired. The in-game character is not a lesbian in the game, and there's nothing woke about that game at all. I judge the game based upon what it is, and not witch hunts into the personal opinions of those that make it

I don't know how you people function in the world

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Once again, the far left takeover of video games is a well known fact at this point. It's pervasive, and it's not debatable. The people who post here are high-information about this sort of thing. You're not going to gaslight anyone into believing whatever crock of horse **** you're trying to feed us. We've played the games. We've seen the gay pride flags and trans propaganda. We've seen the purple haired wenches who work(ed) at these studios and their X posts and interviews about how they hate straight people and men. We've seen good male characters gratuitously replaced by irritating and unlikable female characters. We've seen the resulting abysmal sales and revenue numbers. We've seen the layoffs. We've seen the studio closures. We've seen the post-mortems on how the crazy people who infiltrated these studios by their own admission wanted to push a political agenda, not make good games.

You're not convincing anyone. You can stop.

AggiEE said:

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AozorAg said:

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AggiEE said:

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agdoc2001 said:

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AggiEE said:

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A female protagonist is supposedly "hating their audience". What a joke. Their audience that actually played it enjoyed the game. Those following some fake culture war can play what they like best, typing online

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Or it could be that they chose a nonbinary, lesbian voice actor who claims to be a member of Antifa and one of their senior devs mocked the Charlie Kirk assassination. But keep trying to sell the gamers hate women narrative.

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If you looked under the microscope of every single product you use, it would have had people work on it that you disagree with.

You going boycott everything and starve to death?

The employee that made the comment was fired. The in-game character is not a lesbian in the game, and there's nothing woke about that game at all. I judge the game based upon what it is, and not witch hunts into the personal opinions of those that make it

I don't know how you people function in the world

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Once again, the far left takeover of video games is a well known fact at this point. It's pervasive, and it's not debatable. The people who post here are high-information about this sort of thing. You're not going to gaslight anyone into believing whatever crock of horse **** you're trying to feed us. We've played the games. We've seen the gay pride flags and trans propaganda. We've seen the purple haired wenches who work(ed) at these studios and their X posts and interviews about how they hate straight people and men. We've seen good male characters gratuitously replaced by irritating and unlikable female characters. We've seen the resulting abysmal sales and revenue numbers. We've seen the layoffs. We've seen the studio closures. We've seen the post-mortems on how the crazy people who infiltrated these studios by their own admission wanted to push a political agenda, not make good games.

You're not convincing anyone. You can stop.

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Whatever "take over" is deliberate, it doesn't reflect in this particular game whatsoever.

You haven't played the game. You can stop.

Roughly 50% of the population is some varying degree of left-wing, and there are absolute people you despise working on every product you consume.

If you work for a megacorp, there's probably lots of employees you must interact with that feature "They/Them" in their signatures. Somehow, society still functions when people have different opinions than you that you disagree with. If this stuff upsets you, don't consume it. But at the same time, if the product doesn't feature things you disagree with, but is developed by people who may hold different opinions than you, you're not going to be very long for this world.

I say this as someone that leans conservative.

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You don't lean conservative. You must have forgotten that I can easily scroll through your posting history. Sure, a large portion of the country leans left, but even most of them don't want gay pride flags, trans propaganda, lectures about pronouns, and fourth wave feminism rammed into their video games.

I don't even know what you're talking about when you accuse me of refusing to consume products because people I disagree with made them. I never said that, and I don't care who makes the products I consume. But I do care when they start trying to force-feed me their fringe political ideology through those products, and usually at the expense of quality.

For the third time, you're not going to gaslight anybody here into believing that what is verifiably happening in these game studios is somehow not happening. We all know it's happening. You can stop.

Go back 5-10 years ago and replace 2 of the ladies on The View with Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro.... then act shocked that the ratings plummet!

Realizing they might have gone too far, the producers decide to replace another female host with a man... but's it's OK because this time it's super liberal Governor Gavin Newsom!!! Everybody loves Gav, right!?! Ratings bomb even worse.

The studio responds with social media posts: "If you have a problem with men on The View, you aren't a real woman and we don't need you!".

Everyone is dumbfounded that the liberal woman audience that preaches "Diversity is our Strength!!!" has suddenly vanished!!!



Yes, what's happening with 75% of the big game developers / movie studios is absolutely as rididulous as this example!

First they came for the E3 booth babes….

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I'll stop the moment you can point out a single egregious thing in the game that's genuinely politically motivated and tarnishes the quality

I'm not even saying that you're wrong about some titles. There are plenty of cases where a studio introduces politically charged elements to the detriment of the game's quality. This game is not an example of one.

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Ok. Gears of War: E-Day. It replaces protagonists Marcus and Dom with an obnoxious girl-boss black female lesbian (and some other girl boss who also might be a lesbian; I can't tell) and also rewrites the lore of the series to completely subvert what was established in the original games. It also features a whole lot of different pride flags and "diversity" flags. In fact, a guy playing on PC got banned from multiplayer for removing the pride flags from his game.

E-Day cost $500 million to develop PLUS at least $200 million for marketing, but more likely $300 million. Video games sell the vast majority of their copies in the first week after release. E-Day came out over 3 weeks ago. As of yesterday, the game has only sold 400,000 copies, there have been 722,000 "premium upgrades" purchased at $30 each, and 1.7 million people have played it on gamepass via subscription. That's ****ing abysmal. BUT, let's just be really generous and pretend that all of those numbers are full game purchases, and that 2.8 million people paid $70 for the game even though it was only a small fraction of that. The result is that the game is currently, at minimum, a HALF BILLION DOLLAR loser and more likely a $600 million loser.

Nobody wants to play a game where the badass male protagonists who have earned a place in our hearts through multiple decades of awesome games and deep character development get tossed aside in favor of lesbian girl bosses. This is objectively a problem. Your refusal to acknowledge it confirms you're just here to push an agenda, not have an honest discussion.

A couple of things;

A.) I had no idea there was a new gears game out. I had to learn from this and a few other threads on the topic; so the marketing must have been awful if they paid $300M for it.
B.) I learned it was on PC and not a console exclusive. I thought that's why I hadn't heard about it because I do not own a PlayStation or Xbox past XBOne...so I looked on steam.
C.) Over the last 20+ something years of PC gaming, I have acquired over 400 friends on steam and when I pulled up the landing page for E-day, not a single one has played it or wish listed it.

Yikes.

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My comments were in reference specifically to Ghost of Yotei, not other games. Like I said, there are cases to be made. I'm just saying people should be careful about labeling certain games a certain games simply because there's a female protagonist. Having played Ghost of Yotei myself and the expansion, there's nothing woke or agenda driven about it.

Gears E-Day is such an example of a title that is apparently good but marred by poor writing and characters. I don't think the issue is so much that there's female Gears characters, it's how they are written and portrayed in the title itself.

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You keep talking about Ghost of Yotei. That's the one and only recent example of a woke game that ended up being commercially successful. The rest have not been. The fact that you keep bringing it up, when I never brought it up, is further proof positive that you're just here pushing an agenda and trying to gaslight people into believing that gamers actually love neo-marxist trash in their games. They don't. The track record of woke failures is very clear and is not arguable. The fact that there is one aberration is not significant. You can stop bringing it up.

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My comments were in reference specifically to Ghost of Yotei, not other games. Like I said, there are cases to be made. I'm just saying people should be careful about labeling certain games a certain games simply because there's a female protagonist. Having played Ghost of Yotei myself and the expansion, there's nothing woke or agenda driven about it.

Gears E-Day is such an example of a title that is apparently good but marred by poor writing and characters. I don't think the issue is so much that there's female Gears characters, it's how they are written and portrayed in the title itself.

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Come on, man. Read what you wrote.

"Leonard Part 6 was a good movie except for the writing and characters."

lol.

AggiEE said:

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YouBet said:

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AggiEE said:

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My comments were in reference specifically to Ghost of Yotei, not other games. Like I said, there are cases to be made. I'm just saying people should be careful about labeling certain games a certain games simply because there's a female protagonist. Having played Ghost of Yotei myself and the expansion, there's nothing woke or agenda driven about it.

Gears E-Day is such an example of a title that is apparently good but marred by poor writing and characters. I don't think the issue is so much that there's female Gears characters, it's how they are written and portrayed in the title itself.

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Come on, man. Read what you wrote.

"Leonard Part 6 was a good movie except for the writing and characters."

lol.

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Games aren't movies. And frankly, the Gears series is not known for good writing or characters. People played it for the gameplay spectacle.

The pandering in E-Day just made it worse, admittedly, but let's not kid ourselves that this is the primary reason to play such a game to begin with.

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The only rational explanation for your behavior in this thread is that you're being paid to come post here and defend the left wing slop in these games. Which studio/publisher is paying you?

AggiEE said:

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YouBet said:

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AggiEE said:

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My comments were in reference specifically to Ghost of Yotei, not other games. Like I said, there are cases to be made. I'm just saying people should be careful about labeling certain games a certain games simply because there's a female protagonist. Having played Ghost of Yotei myself and the expansion, there's nothing woke or agenda driven about it.

Gears E-Day is such an example of a title that is apparently good but marred by poor writing and characters. I don't think the issue is so much that there's female Gears characters, it's how they are written and portrayed in the title itself.

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Come on, man. Read what you wrote.

"Leonard Part 6 was a good movie except for the writing and characters."

lol.

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Games aren't movies.And frankly, the Gears series is not known for good writing or characters. People played it for the gameplay spectacle.

The pandering in E-Day just made it worse, admittedly, but let's not kid ourselves that this is the primary reason to play such a game to begin with.

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Boy, I disagree with bold and I bet many others would as well. That's discounting a lot of great writing and cinematics in many games. The gaming industry is larger than the movie industry at this point.