WoW Forever

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BG = battleground (Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, Alterac Valley, etc)

Pre-mades = people who queue up for the battleground as a group instead of joining a random battleground in a standard pickup group. A pre-made group will generally always beat a pickup group because they are usually communicating over discord and are generally used to PvPing with each other. They also probably have a more meta group composition ( META is acronym for Most Effective Tactic Available)

Point being, if a high level raiding guild is joining a queue for a battleground and you are just wanting to jump into a random Warsong Gulch battleground, you will not be facing that group of geared guys. You would be facing others queueing by themselves. Granted, one of those solo queuers could easily be a fully geared person. I don't know if they plan to also try and match you with others around your same PvP rank.
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Pm me if you still need one. I still have 2.
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Have you ever played WoW before (I know you said 'new', but don't know how new)? This is going to get a little long, so I'm sorry for the reading. Your question seems genuine, so i want to answer as best as I can. I don't know how to TL;DR this:

Leveling from 1 to 60 is a grind. It's a freaking journey. For a beginner with little to no experience, that can possibly be upwards of 200 hours, or more, of gameplay (spitballing). Do you plan to play 600 total hours just to get your 3 characters to 60? And none of those characters, I believe, will be able to mail each other, so you can't twink any of them out or use them as bank alternates.

If you are new to WoW, I would recommend picking a ruleset and living with it for a while. The biggest decision is PvE vs PvP. Ultimately, it's a social game. I would pick the ruleset where you have real life or gaming friends. First and foremost.

If you don't know anyone who is playing WoW, it's important to know what you're getting into on a PvP server. In the game world of Azeroth, there are two factions: Horde and Alliance. There are 3 types of territories: Alliance Controlled, Horde Controlled, and Contested.

All starting or low level zones are controlled territories by one of those factions. For example, the beginning area for Forsaken/Undead is Tirisfall Glades. Because this zone is controlled by the Horde, any Horde player in this zone is impervious to being attacked by Alliance who may happen to wander into this zone for whatever reason. Any Horde player is able to attack an alliance player in this zone, but the moment you attack an alliance character or assist someone else in doing so (like heal them), then you will be "flagged" for PvP for 5 minutes.

This differs from Contested Territories. Usually, around level 20 or so, your questing will force you into the Contested Territories. On a PvP server, both Horde and Alliance are all "flagged" for PvP when in a Contested Territory. What does this mean for you? You may only have 2hrs a night to play the game. Imagine logging in to quest on your level 21 Undead Mage in Hillsbrad Foothills. You spend 3-5 minutes running to an area of that zone where you need to kill 20-30 bears to collect their skin for a quest. You're having a good ol time farming the bears. Then, all of a sudden, you hear a noise like a *crack* and you are stunned and being attacked by a level 25 Gnome rogue. He jumped you while you were at half HP because you were farming, and you basically die before ever leaving the stun-lock.

Now, you have to spirit run the 3-5 minutes back to your corpse to resurrect. Let's say you do that, then you sit down to start eating, so you can regain your HP and get back to farming. You sit down and start eating... *CRACK* the rogue is still there, stunned you again, and kills you again. Rinse and repeat. Now, your 2 hours to play is slowly turning into only 1.5 hrs because you are getting ganked by a higher level character. That will 100% happen to you MANY times on a PvP server. And that's not even the worse thing that could happen.

You could need to do 5 different quests around a certain area, and there is a group of 5 alliance players just camping that area and killing anyone who ventures there. Now, you have to rely on a group of Horde players forming to combat that group of alliance. Or, you just logout and take a break to wait for them to get bored.

In a PvE ruleset, you will not need to worry about any of that.

What do you give up when going PvE? Well, what if you need to collect those bear skins. You're a level 22 Mage and there are a finite number of bears around. Sure, they respawn, but they can take 5 minutes or so to fully respawn. Let's say there's a lvl 20 Gnome warrior also farming those bears. Now he's taking your bears! He's slowing you down and there's nothing you can do about it. If it were a PvP ruleset, you could assert your dominance over that area by killing him.

Also, I will say, there sometimes some huge world PvP battles that start taking place in certain contested areas that can be really fun to engage in. Some of my favorite memories from playing vanilla WoW, back in 2005, were centered around various world PvP situations. Those are memories I would never have had if I had gone PvE.

At this point in time, I'm 39 and just want to enjoy playing WoW in the evening. I don't want to be griefed or spawn camped by POS Alliance goofballs with nothing better to do than make my life miserable. That is the reason I voted PvE with the group I'm looking to raid with.
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They already said BG queues will be premade vs premade just fyi
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Claude!
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OnlyForNow said:

I'm up for one of those free codes if there are any left.

let me know if i need to pm someone or email you.


Check your PMs.
hph6203
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Carebear.
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Morbo the Annihilator
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The carebears won if you remember your UO history.

I've decided that I'm creating Gnome Priest (holy) Nelf Druid (mostly resto) alt and a Human Mage Bank alt with Tailoring and Enchanting. Yeah, I like healing.

I'm still leaning toward the Alliance on the RP ruleset for the aforementioned reasons (fewer dbags usually, global chat channels are tolerable), but I could be talked into standard PvE and just turning off trade channel.

PvP gankfests in a game that wasn't designed for it hold no interest for me (RIP DAoC).

I don't mind Horde but the early zones are seas of brown so I generally pass. I thought about an undead priest like my original vanilla alpha character and a blue elf druid, but I just like the Alliance zones more than the Horde zones.

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It's just durotar that sucks to me. Undead is great and Tauren is good too but barrens can be a little meh with all the running.
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Morbo the Annihilator
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True. And The Forsaken starting zone and capitol are my favorites in the game.

But Durotar...

So. Much. Running.
Morbo the Annihilator
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Name reservation - servers go boom.
Lathspell
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Tirisfall Glades, with all the new fog and lighting, looks awesome, imo.

I don't know how anyone stands questing in Durator. I also would rather maximize as much questing in Silverpine, after Tirisfall, and avoid the Barrens for as long as possible.

I will most likely be an undead rogue on PvE.
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Reserved my three names. Wheel of Time names go fast
Lathspell
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When you get to pick both a first and last name, I have no issue getting one I'm happy with.
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Did anyone choose Titan Uranus?
OnlyForNow
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Anyone remember the legendary funeral procession thing that happened?
OnlyForNow
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so what's the best way to download it?
Cromagnum
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The Unforgiven said:

Did anyone choose Titan Uranus?


Omg
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OnlyForNow said:

Anyone remember the legendary funeral procession thing that happened?

Oh man you're going old lore now. The Scatman song on that video was the chefs kiss.
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yes it was. Try going back and watching it on youtube. it is SOOOO low res it's freaking hard to watch.
Morbo the Annihilator
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OnlyForNow said:

so what's the best way to download it?


https://download.battle.net/en-us/desktop
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OnlyForNow said:

Anyone remember the legendary funeral procession thing that happened?


She liked fishing
And Snow
And PVP

Cromagnum
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This is what raiding was really like 20 years ago. This was my guild and we let a random 11 year old on Vent with us and let him raid with us one night. Lots of NSFW language.

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Spreading AIDS in Org

Cromagnum
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When we brought volatile infection to the start of Alterac Valley.

OnlyForNow
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So I'm in for a year…

When/how do I decide what sever to play on?

Planning on dwarf hunter instead of human warrior
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Ok this is actually pretty good.

bexar
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So they are going to have rp-pvp? Was that an option when yall reserved names?
OnlyForNow
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Yes, I believe it was.
Madmarttigan
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It was a little wonky but yeah it's added
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Lathspell
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I don't understand the obsession with the early name selection, unless you want something like "Chuck Norris". I guess all I really care about is the first name. I'm very open to many different last names so I feel confident I'll be able to come up with something I like on launch day.
Madmarttigan
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When its world wide you would be surprised that even things you would never think would get taken, get taken lol
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Names are unique per region. Not ruleset apparently. Seems odd but I guess there's a reason for it.
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Guessing rule set transfers. They're going to be making hardcore. Hardcore characters are going to be moving rules when they die. Streamlining transfers is just better. First name + last name makes the availability of names way less restrictive. One name across 100 servers vs one name across infinitely many last names.
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OnlyForNow
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Anyone wanna share your graphics specs you're setting your games to?
 
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