Looks like I can get Hulu content w/ ads plus Disney+ content w/ ads plus all the Live TV (that I get with YouTube) for about as much as I pay for Youtube. YouTube has no streaming content.

I used to have Hulu, but it sucked bad as far as the DVR/replay, etc for sports. So I switched to YouTube about 7 years ago.

Is Hulu OK now? Why would I not switch?

Thanks for any feedback!

Hulu Live TV sucks compared to YTTV. It doesn't do many of the little UI things that YTTV does.

We switched from Hulu to YTTV a few months ago. I can't quite recall all of these little UI things anymore but it was refreshing when we made the switch because we found ourselves fighting the Hulu interface much more than YTTVs.

A few things off top of my head:

Hulu doesn't have multi-cast for sports, if you care about that.

The Hulu interface doesn't work the same on all platforms.

Can't scan the Hulu guide or other channel content without completely leaving the current program. Highly annoying.

Hulu UI algos would never serve up content I would expect to see like YTTV does. The latter is much better at showing you stuff you care about. Ex: tell me there is an A&M basketball game airing today. I had to search for it in Hulu or navigate several clicks to get to it.

The only advantage that Hulu has is that Hulu Live comes with the Hulu catalog of old content, if you care about that.

Thanks a bunch YouBet.

As someone who gets paid to design software and interfaces, Hulu Live is absolute garbage (probably because it's been adapted to do something it wasn't originally designed to do).

I tried the same thing, thinking we could go that route and save some money bundling, and I lasted like 3 days before switching back to YouTubeTV.

YoutubeTV is by far the best of the streaming services I've used. Unless something has dramatically changed in the past 2 to 3 years with the other services I expect it is still the best.

To each his own. My favorite interface is DirecTV Stream. Next is Hulu. I dropped YTTV after six months before I couldn't stand the interface.

fig96 said:

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As someone who gets paid to design software and interfaces, Hulu Live is absolute garbage (probably because it's been adapted to do something it wasn't originally designed to do).

I tried the same thing, thinking we could go that route and save some money bundling, and I lasted like 3 days before switching back to YouTubeTV.

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Can I BEG YOU to create a new inferface or skin for youtube TV on Amazon's FireCube (which I assume is same as firestick). Would love to sideload one if I had to.

It's ass. Has been ass forever... only reason I don't use it - can't stand it. Hulu's is way better on my cubes.

dabo man said:

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My favorite interface is DirecTV Stream.

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Same with me. Using Fubo (which I actually liked for some things, but hated the concurrent stream limitations and the fact that each game on multicast counted as a stream), Directv Stream (since it was created), and now YTTV I found the DTV Stream interface to be the best. The price, OTOH is the worst, which is why I dropped it for YTTV, but I found the interface to be vastly superior. The negatives other than price is how sports are handled with no multicast ability and that I can't watch on all my TVs concurrently (I have an entertainment space where I can watch on 4 TVs at once).

My biggest gripe with YTTV is that they block my VPN for watching out of region sports, so I can't watch Giants games anymore. That was a huge issue for me during baseball season and I will likely switch back when the season starts back up in April.

I also don't like that you can't choose the games on multicast on YTTV, and during college football season it often is impossible to always get the 4 games you want to watch amongst the feed options they give you. Small gripe, since I can put up feeds on different TVs if I need to, but sometimes it can be annoying if I am not watching in that space where I have more than one TV.

Ill probably end up switching back and forth depending on times of the year due to sports I am focusing on, but in the day to day regular TVs watching IMO YTTV wins, but not by as much for me as for others due to my personal viewing needs.

YouBet said:

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Hulu Live TV sucks compared to YTTV. It doesn't do many of the little UI things that YTTV does.

We switched from Hulu to YTTV a few months ago. I can't quite recall all of these little UI things anymore but it was refreshing when we made the switch because we found ourselves fighting the Hulu interface much more than YTTVs.

A few things off top of my head:

Hulu doesn't have multi-cast for sports, if you care about that.

The Hulu interface doesn't work the same on all platforms.

Can't scan the Hulu guide or other channel content without completely leaving the current program. Highly annoying.

Hulu UI algos would never serve up content I would expect to see like YTTV does. The latter is much better at showing you stuff you care about. Ex: tell me there is an A&M basketball game airing today. I had to search for it in Hulu or navigate several clicks to get to it.

The only advantage that Hulu has is that Hulu Live comes with the Hulu catalog of old content, if you care about that.

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Agree with all of this. I dropped YTTV to try out Fubo, Sling and Hulu. The only one that comes close IMO is Fubo. Sling and Hulu tv are garbage.

satexas said:

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fig96 said:

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As someone who gets paid to design software and interfaces, Hulu Live is absolute garbage (probably because it's been adapted to do something it wasn't originally designed to do).

I tried the same thing, thinking we could go that route and save some money bundling, and I lasted like 3 days before switching back to YouTubeTV.

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Can I BEG YOU to create a new inferface or skin for youtube TV on Amazon's FireCube (which I assume is same as firestick). Would love to sideload one if I had to.

It's ass. Has been ass forever... only reason I don't use it - can't stand it. Hulu's is way better on my cubes.

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Unless there some kind of devkit or API I'm not aware that would be a massive undertaking if it's even possible, sorry.

I think given how easy it is to add/cancel services, just try them.

My future is only get these services during sports seasons. For me, there is no value to ESPN outside of football season. Even during basketball, the games I'll want to watch (NCAA tournament) are going to be on Max.

For the sports streaming and multicast comments:

Some of yall may just want to look at your streaming device. For example, Apple TV will let you pick any games you want to simulcast through the espn app. Regardless of who your provider is.

Edit: and if I'm not misremembering you can even multiscreen across different apps. Not all apps support PiP, but I used to multiscreen with the Astros and A&M baseball.

Hulu live is clunky but its nice to have the bundle of hulu, Disney, and espn. They've also started putting must hulu content in Disney plus.

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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dabo man said:

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My favorite interface is DirecTV Stream.

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Same with me. Using Fubo (which I actually liked for some things, but hated the concurrent stream limitations and the fact that each game on multicast counted as a stream), Directv Stream (since it was created), and now YTTV I found the DTV Stream interface to be the best. The price, OTOH is the worst, which is why I dropped it for YTTV, but I found the interface to be vastly superior. The negatives other than price is how sports are handled with no multicast ability and that I can't watch on all my TVs concurrently (I have an entertainment space where I can watch on 4 TVs at once).

My biggest gripe with YTTV is that they block my VPN for watching out of region sports, so I can't watch Giants games anymore. That was a huge issue for me during baseball season and I will likely switch back when the season starts back up in April.

I also don't like that you can't choose the games on multicast on YTTV, and during college football season it often is impossible to always get the 4 games you want to watch amongst the feed options they give you. Small gripe, since I can put up feeds on different TVs if I need to, but sometimes it can be annoying if I am not watching in that space where I have more than one TV.

Ill probably end up switching back and forth depending on times of the year due to sports I am focusing on, but in the day to day regular TVs watching IMO YTTV wins, but not by as much for me as for others due to my personal viewing needs.

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You can select the games to build a multi view now. Still doesn't have every game available but it is much better than scrolling for the perfect 4.

Is YouTube losing CBS?

grego said:

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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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dabo man said:

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My favorite interface is DirecTV Stream.

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Same with me. Using Fubo (which I actually liked for some things, but hated the concurrent stream limitations and the fact that each game on multicast counted as a stream), Directv Stream (since it was created), and now YTTV I found the DTV Stream interface to be the best. The price, OTOH is the worst, which is why I dropped it for YTTV, but I found the interface to be vastly superior. The negatives other than price is how sports are handled with no multicast ability and that I can't watch on all my TVs concurrently (I have an entertainment space where I can watch on 4 TVs at once).

My biggest gripe with YTTV is that they block my VPN for watching out of region sports, so I can't watch Giants games anymore. That was a huge issue for me during baseball season and I will likely switch back when the season starts back up in April.

I also don't like that you can't choose the games on multicast on YTTV, and during college football season it often is impossible to always get the 4 games you want to watch amongst the feed options they give you. Small gripe, since I can put up feeds on different TVs if I need to, but sometimes it can be annoying if I am not watching in that space where I have more than one TV.

Ill probably end up switching back and forth depending on times of the year due to sports I am focusing on, but in the day to day regular TVs watching IMO YTTV wins, but not by as much for me as for others due to my personal viewing needs.

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You can select the games to build a multi view now. Still doesn't have every game available but it is much better than scrolling for the perfect 4.

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Since when? And how? Using all the streaming devices?

That wasn't an option that I found on YTTV this past football season, but maybe I didnt know how to do it since I only started using it at the beginning of the season.

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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grego said:

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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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dabo man said:

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My favorite interface is DirecTV Stream.

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Same with me. Using Fubo (which I actually liked for some things, but hated the concurrent stream limitations and the fact that each game on multicast counted as a stream), Directv Stream (since it was created), and now YTTV I found the DTV Stream interface to be the best. The price, OTOH is the worst, which is why I dropped it for YTTV, but I found the interface to be vastly superior. The negatives other than price is how sports are handled with no multicast ability and that I can't watch on all my TVs concurrently (I have an entertainment space where I can watch on 4 TVs at once).

My biggest gripe with YTTV is that they block my VPN for watching out of region sports, so I can't watch Giants games anymore. That was a huge issue for me during baseball season and I will likely switch back when the season starts back up in April.

I also don't like that you can't choose the games on multicast on YTTV, and during college football season it often is impossible to always get the 4 games you want to watch amongst the feed options they give you. Small gripe, since I can put up feeds on different TVs if I need to, but sometimes it can be annoying if I am not watching in that space where I have more than one TV.

Ill probably end up switching back and forth depending on times of the year due to sports I am focusing on, but in the day to day regular TVs watching IMO YTTV wins, but not by as much for me as for others due to my personal viewing needs.

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You can select the games to build a multi view now. Still doesn't have every game available but it is much better than scrolling for the perfect 4.

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Since when? And how? Using all the streaming devices?

That wasn't an option that I found on YTTV this past football season, but maybe I didnt know how to do it since I only started using it at the beginning of the season.

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On Roku for sure this past season. If you pick a game and go to multi view, there is a 'build multiview" option which has your game and a gray box with a plus sign in it.

It is much handier than the old way.

That's awesome, thanks! I had no idea, but at least I can take that negative out of the equation. Now I'm ready to try it out, but have to wait until the fall...

I have the Disney bundle because it ends up being cheaper, so I am stuck with Hulu Live TV's crappy UI. It's not good, but I don't think it's worth spending more just to get YTTV's marginally better UI. I think I read somewhere that Disney is working on making a more unified Hulu/D+ experience, so maybe that's why the old Hulu app UI hasn't been getting much attention.

My assumption is that without a full blown rearchitecting (which would be a massive really expensive effort) Hulu Live is about as good as it's going to get.

It wasn't ever designed to do live tv and was designed for streaming playback, then as the market changed I'd imagine an exec team decided they needed it. So what we have is live tv shoehorned into an app that was never intended to support it.

So much software is how it is because it's an huge time and resource consuming effort to change the way something has been built around a foundation that was created years ago and can't easily be adapted.

jja79 said:

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Is YouTube losing CBS?

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According to keepparamount.com, Paramount's "fair offer" to YouTubeTV hasn't been accepted yet and the clock is ticking. Hence the panicky messages from Paramount that YTTV customers could lose 20+ channels. The only Paramount station I care about is CBS, and then only because Survivor 48 is starting up next week. So I'm waiting to see what happens. (Paramount wants YTTV customers to bombard YTTV corporate with phone calls.)

This happens every year or two with somebody and I can't think of one that's left for more than a week or two.

Also, if needed as a short term solution Paramount Plus has all the CBS shows and it's cheap.

fig96 said:

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This happens every year or two with somebody and I can't think of one that's left for more than a week or two.

Also, if needed as a short term solution Paramount Plus has all the CBS shows and it's cheap.

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Yep. Predictably enough, the crisis is over. Paramount just announced it's been resolved.