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Sine poena nulla lex.

No longer a rumor.

Cromagnum said:

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Nobody cares about VR games.

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Which is Valve launching what will likely be the first AAA title on the platform is such a big deal.

It's absolutely the future, and Valve knows it.

Maybe so, but they have a long long sway to go on that. I've played NES games that were more fun than the VR crap I've seen.

Cromagnum said:

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Maybe so, but they have a long long sway to go on that. I've played NES games that were more fun than the VR crap I've seen.

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Have you played any of the higher end stuff HTC or Valve hardware? It's wholly different from the environment you get on the lower end Oculus-and-the-like models.

At this point we really don't have far to go. Headset technology is more than adequate and will continue to get refined, hand-tracking is there as well.

Hardware-wise the only remaining major hurdle to full consumer adoption is mobility. What solutions exist for a virtual world with unlimited play area but a real-world physical limitation? Feet tracking and "walking" solutions are starting to pop up, but all are pretty cumbersome at this point. Any kind of treadmill-like walking solution is far too expensive and too bulky. But once that solution is found, there's going to be no stopping the mass adoption.

I'm not sure how you took that from my post.

Valve went out and designed their own VR hardware... it's a game that has been in development for multiple years.

I'd say that's the exact opposite of a tech demo.

It will be a "tech demo" in the sense that there will be nothing else like it from a technical point of view, just like Half-Life 1 &2.

Proposition Joe said:

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I'm not sure how you took that from my post.

Valve went out and designed their own VR hardware... it's a game that has been in development for multiple years.

I'd say that's the exact opposite of a tech demo.

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I really wasn't responding to your post, it was my interpretation of Valve's announcement.

C@LAg said:

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where's the $#$%#@*#$ part 3?

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HL3 is never going to happen, unfortunately.

Proposition Joe said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Nobody cares about VR games.

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Which is Valve launching what will likely be the first AAA title on the platform is such a big deal.

It's absolutely the future, and Valve knows it.

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If/when they can produce high-end VR headsets that are all-in-one platforms for a mass market price, then it will start to have more widespread adoption. By that time, HL:Alyx will be old news.

mugwurt said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Nobody cares about VR games.

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Which is Valve launching what will likely be the first AAA title on the platform is such a big deal.

It's absolutely the future, and Valve knows it.

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If/when they can produce high-end VR headsets that are all-in-one platforms for a mass market price, then it will start to have more widespread adoption. By that time, HL:Alyx will be old news.

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That's the great thing about technology - it continues to get cheaper to produce.

Proposition Joe said:

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mugwurt said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Nobody cares about VR games.

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Which is Valve launching what will likely be the first AAA title on the platform is such a big deal.

It's absolutely the future, and Valve knows it.

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If/when they can produce high-end VR headsets that are all-in-one platforms for a mass market price, then it will start to have more widespread adoption. By that time, HL:Alyx will be old news.

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That's the great thing about technology - it continues to get cheaper to produce.

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I agree, and expect it to eventually reach mass market pricing in the next few years. But it won't be 2020.

Personally, I think AR has the potential for a much larger mass consumer market, as you still have spatial awareness and can potentially wear them anywhere. VR use will be more limited in comparison.

mugwurt said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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mugwurt said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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Cromagnum said:

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Nobody cares about VR games.

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Which is Valve launching what will likely be the first AAA title on the platform is such a big deal.

It's absolutely the future, and Valve knows it.

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If/when they can produce high-end VR headsets that are all-in-one platforms for a mass market price, then it will start to have more widespread adoption. By that time, HL:Alyx will be old news.

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That's the great thing about technology - it continues to get cheaper to produce.

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I agree, and expect it to eventually reach mass market pricing in the next few years. But it won't be 2020.

Personally, I think AR has the potential for a much larger mass consumer market, as you still have spatial awareness and can potentially wear them anywhere. VR use will be more limited in comparison.

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Agreed. I think AR will be an every-day type usage everywhere, where VR will be primarily in the home.

Everyone gonna be walking around with AR headsets.